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1 If you are in need of help, you need but ask.... 2 *********************** INSTALLED: 25 OCT 84 ********************** 3 Welcome to BWMS (BackWater Message System) Mike Day system operator 4 ************************************************************ 5 GENERAL DISCLAIMER: BWMS IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY INFORMATION 6 PLACED ON THIS SYSTEM. 7 BWMS was created as an electronic bill board. BWMS is a privately owned 8 and operated system which is currently open for use by the general public. 9 No restrictions are placed on the use of the system. As the system is 10 privately owned, I retain the right to remove any and all messages which 11 I may find offensive. Because of the limited size of the system, it will be 12 periodically purged of messages. (only 629 lines of data can be saved) 13 To leave a message, type 'ENTER' and use ctrl/C or break to get out of the 14 ENTER mode. The message is automatically stored. If after entering the 15 message you find you made a mistake, use the replace command to replace 16 the line. To exit from the system, type 'OFF' then hang up. 17 Type 'HELP' to see other commands that are available on the system. 18 ************************************************************ 19 20 Leonard: I am reminded of a saying by Mr. Ford that went something like 21 'If I want an engineer, I hire one, not teach myself how to be one.' 22 I agree that the President shouldn't be concerned about every detail. 23 However, he should have at least a minimal understanding of the scope 24 of what is going on, and I don't think Reagan does. He has delagated 25 every aspect of the office to his underlings, and doesn't keep up with 26 what they are doing. Indeed, if what I have heard is true, he doesn't 27 even try to (Re: his sleeping during cabinet meetings.) Mondale on the 28 other hand I find to be very out of touch with reality. If he truely 29 believes as he has stated that the Russians won't build satilite weapons 30 if we don't. This despite the fact that they are doing so right now, 31 and have never in the past stopped building weapons just because we 32 did. As a matter of fact, they used the opertunity during the Carter years 33 to catch up with the US and in some aspects move ahead. Nor am I in favour 34 of Mondale's idea of taking money out of my pocket to feed his special 35 programs. I doubt very much that it will be used to affect the debt 36 given what I've seen the Democates do in the past. They are more 37 interested in spending money then trying to figure out where it will 38 come from. Increasing the money flow to uncle sam will only increase 39 the outflow. Besides, it doesn't really matter much if the money goes 40 out of my pocket to uncle, or never gets there in the first place, 41 I still can't use it. And when you get down to the bottom, that is 42 what concerns me, how much USEABLE money I have. 43 ****************************** CISTOP MIKEY *****************************: 44 Anybody got any ideas as to what the incomplete tirade about the "holocaust" 45 on drive b is/was about? 46 ________________________________Leonard_________________________________________ 47 *************************************************************************: 48 Leonard: I don't know, but it was a good start. Even a good deal of truth 49 to it. Say, I wonder what the Rashneeshee's are going to do now that it 50 looks like they won't make the election? Being the type of people they are, 51 I'm sure they will find some other trouble to get into. 52 *************************** CISTOP MIKEY ********************************** 53 OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO 54 I too find Reagan's John Wayne stance in foreign policy to be an overriding 55 concern. It is of little comfort even to the few benefitted by supply side 56 economics to drive to a nuclear holocaust in a late-model car. If the only 57 consideration you bring to the voting booth is the amount of useable money 58 you have, it is just as well that you are not participating in choosing our 59 government. 60 RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR AATW RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR 61 ************************************************************************* 62 Obviously you can't read, I said it before, and I will say one more time. 63 I am voting, but not for YOUR idea of a candidate. I am very interested 64 it letting those that be know my feelings. Copping out and voting for 65 Fritz or Ronnie will not do that. That would only cause me to be one of 66 the mindless sheep that assumes you must vote for A or B or it will be 67 of no value. NOT TRUE!!! Now I am not so stupid as to beleive that my 68 voting for Mr. Non-of-the-above will make a major change, but then neither 69 will your voting for Fritz either. So instead, I have opted to make the 70 best use of my voting right to make as strong a statement about my feelings 71 that I can. Blending into the mass of sheep voting for A or B does not 72 do that. Rest assured, I will be voting for other offices as well, it 73 is only the presidency that I find neither candidate that has been placed 74 on the block to be acceptable to me. And I refuse to bow down to your 75 insinuation that I should vote for one of them just because you think I 76 should. By the very fact that I am intending to place my vote in a way 77 that must be counted, it insures that it will be counted in a form I 78 can accept. Which is better then not voting at all. Also, I don't know 79 where you get the idea that all I care about is how much money I have. 80 The point I was making if you go and reread the msg again is that I 81 don't see any difference between Reagan and Fritz economically. Either 82 way I loose. There are many other things I consider important if you 83 were to read my other msgs. I fully realize that Ronnie or Fritz will 84 be the next pres. (probably Ronnie given the lastest polls) but in my 85 opinion we lose in either case. 86 ********************** CISTOP MIKEY ********************************* 87 P.S. When was the last time you wrote your congressman? Did you know 88 that writing your congressman can have a bigger effect on his decisions 89 then anything else you can do? I consider this to be a far more effective 90 tool then to just vote for another carbon copy. 91 A letter can have the power of as much as 10 to 100 or more votes. 92 ********************************************************************* 93 I am looking for techu incal information, wiring and parts info, on the 94 installation of a reset circuit for the resetting of an IM BM PC without 95 power-down. I have been told that there is a circuit available but have been 96 unable to find it. If you have such information please contact Robert 97 King (503) 227-7126. (Voice Only ) 98 help 99 I am looking for information, parts and wiring info, on the installation 100 of a single button reset circuit for the resetting of an IBM/PC without 101 power-down. I have been told that there is such a circuit available but have 102 been unable to obtain any information. If you can help, please contact Robert 103 ppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp 104 I'll leave the piper contentedly stuffing his face on the adventure to stop 105 in at the debate. 106 First --BRAVO MIKEY!!! I fully intend to vote in the same manner. I cannot 107 in clear conscience vote for the incompetent -- oops, incumbent president. 108 Sure, it's true. He's competent as a figurehead and does a good job as long 109 as he gets at least one chance to rehearse his lines. We have very little 110 question as to who bought and paid for him, and who is reaping the benifits of 111 his years in office. On the other side, we have Fritz the 'Crat. I shan't 112 get into his supposed qualifictions other than to look at the manuvering that 113 it took for him to get to be the party nominee. The stuff that shows on the 114 surface indicates that the SOB is about as slimy, unprincipled, and morally 115 taineted as any other politician. I find the thought of him and ms. rich b... 116 rather unsettling. I doubt that he is as good an actor as rotten Ronnie, so 117 is less likely to prove a popular figurehead. He has promised the moon to 118 every special intrest group that he could contact -- and all those folks will 119 want to call in the debt if he gets the job. Yuchh. 120 Between rotten Ronnie and Fritz the 'Crat there's no choice -- NoneOfTheAbove 121 will be my choice as well. 122 Economics -- what we're reaping now is the effects of the Vietnam war. We 123 squandered too much of our nation's wealth in the jungles over there -- poured 124 too much of our national output, manpower and morale into a struggle that was 125 basically none of our business. We fought that war on credit, and the bills 126 have been coming due a long time. We never paid them, they still exist, and 127 the interest on the debt keeps building up. I can't blame either party for 128 this mess -- both were equally guilty and ready to jump into a war that they 129 thought would offer some measure of economic stimulus. It didn't. 130 ppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp 131 Sorry, Mike, but 'none of the above' is not a vote that will carry a 132 message to any politician; they know that only the winner in any election 133 counts, so any vote that doesn't affect who wins doesn't count. It can 134 be done any way you like- don't vote at all, vote for Donald Duck, none- 135 of-the-above, or vote for a certain loser- they are all the same, throwing 136 your vote away. Only a vote that threatens to alter the outcome is a vote. 137 Besides, a vote that obviously (to the politicos) isn't valid implies to 138 them a politically incompetent, and this is not what you want. 139 I know it means something to you, but communication requires both that 140 you say something, and that you say it in a way that can be understood 141 by whomever you are trying to talk to. Of course this is something that 142 a lot of politicians have trouble with too. A vote for Fritz is a vote 143 against Ronnie, a vote for no-one is a zero. I know you don't like 144 either of them, neither do I, but ..... 145 ..................................BAD................................... 146 You are wrong. Sure, it doesn't count much, but they do take notice of it. 147 Maybe you don't remember the big worry about the increase in libertarian 148 votes, and independant votes and even Mickey Mouse votes last time. 149 And I very strongly disagree they see it as political incompetence, not 150 voting at all yes, but not voting for an alternate. Now like I said 151 before, I recognize that it won't make a whole lot of difference to 152 the outcome, but then niether would my vote make any real difference 153 if I were to vote for someone I cann't accept. At least I will be placing 154 my vote in a form that I can accept. A vote for Mr. None-of-the-above 155 is a vote against both Ronnie and Fritz not a zero vote. Voting for 156 someone I don't wan't is the zero vote. I would have wasted my right 157 to vote on something I don't believe in, and I refuse to do that. 158 Politicians do care about the people and how they feel. I know it 159 doesn't seem like it sometimes, but they do, because they know that 160 if they get too far out of line they won't get elected next time, or 161 worse get booted out immediately. Sure my vote for Mr. None-of-the-above 162 is a drop in the bucket. But at least maybe I'll get the bucket wet 163 instead of being lost in the ocean of votes by the other sheep. 164 And like I said above, if you REALLY are interested in your government, 165 you should write your congressman and tell him how you feel. Be they 166 republican or Democrate they listen to letters, because if you were 167 concerned enough to write a letter, they know that it is a subject of 168 importance to you. 169 Waving the flag once every four years hardly qualifies anyone as being 170 politically aware. 171 ************************ CISTOP MIKEY ********************************* 172 4$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ 173 174 ***** $75,000 REWARD ********* 175 176 177 TO ANYONE WHO CAN PROVE THAT GAS CHAMBERS FOR THE 178 179 PURPOSE OF KILLING HUMAN BEINGS EXISTED AT OR IN 180 181 AUSCHWITZ CONCENTRATION CAMP 182 183 DURING WORLD WAR II. 184 185 FOR DETAILS CONTACT: 186 187 Institute for Historical Review 188 P>O> Box 1306 189 Torrance, California 90505 190 191 $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ 192 193 194 To the above: I have just one question. What qualifies as "proof"? Testimony 195 by the survivors? Testimony at the Nuremburg trials? Or something else? 196 (by the way, I thought that even the GERMANS who were on trial had admitted 197 to such things, but tried to excuse it as "only following orders"?) 198 I am willing to be convinced, but I'd like to see some evidence for your side. 199 Give me some references that can be found in the library or obtained thru 200 library exchange. 201 I do not believe that you are correct, but I support your right to ask 202 "uncomfortable" questions. 203 Mikey: WIf I set "LF N" will I still get embedded linefeeds (lf chars in the 204 middle of the line?) 205 __________________________________Leonard_______________________________________ 206 ______________________________________________________________________________ 207 The Game 208 "Something's wrong with the chessboard. My woman doesn't have any 209 feathers. And your dart needs sharpening.", said one of the three players, 210 pointing one hand accusingly at the playing field, and waving the other with 211 motions of disgust. 212 I was above such simple bickering, mainly because I was sitting this 213 game out. But it wasn't hard to remember how hot the brain gets; how steamed 214 the emotions become when one gets involved in *The Game*. 215 No one really knows the origins of *The Game*. Some say it was a 216 conglomeration of many games. An effort by the ruling Upper Crust to keep 217 the working Normals in line by giving them something complex to do in their 218 Off Time. There were many ideas, but no one really knew for sure. 219 The argument at the table was getting louder, and the attention of 220 more and more non-playing Normals was diverted to the three participants. A 221 question of equipment condition seemed to be the main obstacle to *Good Play*, 222 which was always the desired goal in any round of *The Game*. But some players 223 would find any excuse to stall to give them a chance to rethink strategy, for 224 the other more important goal of *The Game* was *To Win*. 225 Milt, a tall lanky male in his late teens was making most of the noise. 226 His left partner was a female Normal named Teed, and her left partner was 227 a quiet seemingly detached from the action Normal named Fife. 228 Fife sat quietly while Milt gestured and spouted injustice about 229 everything. Teed tried to calm Milt, but to no avail. Pushing his chair back, 230 Fife stood up, revealing a muscular stature built on an enormous frame. He 231 continued to stand with arms crossed until the others noticed him and 232 quickly ceased their argument. Every eye in the Game Room was on Fife. His 233 lips, unaccustomed to speech, moved, but were not accompanied by sound. Still 234 the room hung on Fife's every movement. When at last his self-imposed silence 235 lifted, he uttered in a whisper like voice, "On with *The Game*." 236 Fife returned to his chair, and the three resumed play. Never before 237 has I witnessed what in Fife's case could only be called an outburst. Fife 238 was not a talker. He was a heavy worker who toiled deep in the Mines digging 239 mineral deposits for Upper Crust amenities. Only the strongest worked this 240 type of job. Only the strongest and the quietest. 241 The game continued without further interruption, and the audience, made 242 up entirely of non-playing Normals, returned their attentions to their own 243 little conversations, which not unexpectedly, centered almost exclusively on 244 Game Strategy. 245 I, on the other hand, was interested in this particular game. From 246 examining the board positions, I decided that Fife held no particular point of 247 power, but his position was not without merit. It was painfully apparent that 248 Milt was the player in imminent trouble. His board position was very weak, 249 and his playing skills were deteriorating has his playing pieces decreased 250 in position and declined in number. Teed appeared to have the best position 251 of all, but would she capitalize? 252 *The Game* raged for hours, and I made several mental notes of 253 possible mistakes by the three players. One never knew who would eventually 254 show up as an opponent. It was a good idea to have as much background infor- 255 mation as possible. 256 A yell from the table tore my gaze from the small Play-Stat board in 257 front of me to the table where the action was heating up. Milt was standing 258 now, and a quick scan of the board told me why; he had been eliminated. He 259 sank back down in his chair, his eyes never leaving the playing field where 260 his pieces now stood completely captured. Fife and Teed continued, but it 261 was now obvious that Fife was on A Roll, and it was only a matter of minutes 262 before Teed was gone too. 263 After *The Game* was closed, and the losers removed from the building, 264 I approached Fife. Crossing in front of him as to not surprise him, I asked, 265 "You knew, when you stood up. You knew, didn't you?" 266 "Yes.", he replied in a low raspy voice. "I knew I had them. I knew 267 I would win. I knew I would live to play *The Game* again. I knew...", his 268 voice trailed off, and he made for the exit. I did not follow. 269 "Winning is tough,", I thought to myself, "but it's not as tough as 270 losing." With that thought, I left the Game Arena, and headed for my cubical. 271 I prescribed to the School of Preparation. I had to always prepare for *The 272 Game*. 273 ___________________________A WORD FROM THE WISE - PART XIV____________________ 274 )#@)_*!@)_*!@_)*$!@)_$+!)_@($!@+&$!)_@$!@_*(!+(%!)_#&%_#@*%_@#*%)_#@*%_@#*5 275 Mikey: I have a disk with the three programs we spoke of at the last PCS 276 meeting for you. Tell Aaron I will also have his 4 8" disks with backwater 277 archives there too. The conversion to IBM format is nearly completed. 278 Voyeur : When can you arrange time in your busy schedule to come and help 279 xfer the BW files from IBM to TRS80? 280 *_%#*@_)%*#@_)%*@#)_% L'homme sans Parity *%_)@#*%_)@#*%_)@*%!_)#*%_)!*%_!*%! 281 jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj 282 It's nice to be back at BW after a long leave of absence. My 283 girlfriend is out of town and I feel like a freeman. (and a Freman) 284 L'Homme: I'll try to get some floppies to you by the next PorSFiS. 285 Mikey and JCS: A vote for "None of the above" says little about who you want 286 for president. Do you want no president. You are not limited to vote 287 for either Ron/George or Fritz/Tits. If you don't like them, write 288 in who YOU think would do the best job. None of the above says little 289 more then not voting. 290 The Ninja 291 jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj 292 ########################################################################### 293 LEONARD: PLEASE READ "DEBUNKING THE GENOCIDE MYTH" BY PAUL RASSINIER 294 AND 295 " THE HOAX OF THE TWENTIETH CENTURY " BY 296 A. R. BUTZ. 1976 297 *=====================><==================================* 298 ------------------------------------------------------------- 299 TO ALL THE ABOVE: 300 to most of you,you took half the disk space talking about 301 Stupid Ronald Reagan And Wally Mondale and that took half the disk space,what i 302 am trying to say is you need to let other 303 people use like now,well so what who cares anyways........... 304 ---------------------International Trader-------------------- 305 Ps-Do you think that the Rajneeshes's should stay in Oregon? 306 i think that they should be kicked out ,now they are trying to 307 take the homeless people into the Rajneesh Porum or whatever 308 anyways i would like to get a nice conversation on here. 309 how about ,about bbs system do you think they are important do you learn anythin 310 g from them ,how about all the new bbs's that come up and then- 311 disapear with out anyone hardly knowing (Why can't anyone set up a bbs like this 312 one or like Rome Dune West Side ect.,well anyway good bye 313 see ya later everyone ............................. 314 REAGAN/BUSH RULE 315 ----------------------Internationl Trader--------------------- 316 317 --------------------------------------------------------------- 318 319 For all of the election debaters, are you aware that Bozo the Clown is also run- 320 ning? His motto is "If we have to have a clown for president, why not have a 321 professional?" 322 323 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 324 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 325 I had changed in some sort of way. When I awoke I saw Bard and a black Unicorn approaching. He said not a word but 326 helped me on Lucifer (his Unicorn), and we rode towards camp. 327 "Odd, still have my mental powers. Lucifer's name came like a shot.", I mumbled. Bard only half-paid attention, busy 328 finding the easiest path in the lovely forest. "Bard, what has happened to the others?", I queried. 329 "Most of them have waited for you. Piper has returned, bringing with him a tremendous appetite. The good Friar has 330 taken a walk with an old woman." 331 I was glad he didn't ask what had happened to me. It seemed like he didn't want to know unless I told him. 332 A pain shot through my head, and a vision sprang before my eyes: The Mad Actor was in the Valley! The pain in 333 my head seemed to be due to some sort of popping noise in TMA's cloak. Throwing a thought that way, it quieted down. 334 I noticed the scenes around me again. We had found the camp, and everyone was standing near the breakfast fire 335 commenting on Piper's capacity to eat. I thanked Bard and Lucifer, and dismounted. My necklace sparked attention. 336 Piper even stopped eating. "Behold all, the first step towards my destiny." The necklace sparkled and glittered in 337 response. 338 "I'm terribly hungry. Piper, could you spare me a bit of that?" 339 ++++++++++++++++ Milchar ++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 09:52 on 10/26/84 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 340 ************************************************************************** 341 Leonard: I don't know if the LF N strips all line feeds let's see ok? 342 well, it would appear that they are stripped out hmm, even in enter mode. 343 Gee, I never really gave it much tought. Nice to know how it works. 344 Well, later, I am going back to my Compuserve manual and try to figure 345 out how to log onto the beast. Golly, when I left this morning there was 346 a bunch of yelling and screaming (debate?) going on at the Inn. Tonight 347 when I step in the door all is quiet. (my ears are still ringing) 348 Here's a thought that someone at work brought up, what if the latest 349 move by the Rashee's is to just make everyone think they aren't going 350 to vote thus making everyone back off, and possibly not vote. Then come 351 election day the neshee's show up in force possibly out voting the complasent 352 peolpe who are caght unaware. Something to think about. 353 **************************** CISTOP MIKEY ********************************** 354 355 Ninja - nice to see you back on this system. No time for a message. 356 ... 357 358 359 1 HELLO TO ALL FROM THE 360 *j** 361 C O M P U T E R K I D!! 362 |^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^ 363 The above is a demonstration of real computer professionalism. 364 |^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^ 365 ****