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24 On a table near the back, the piper was peeling shavings off a reed.
25 From time to time he would blow into the reed and listen critically to
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27 the cawing that ensued, then pass the razor-sharp edge of his skean dubh
28 down one side or the other. Noticing that the sounds of debate had
29 faded away, and the sounds of the storytelling had not yet picked up,
30 he sighed. The ebb and flow of time at the inn imposed its own rythms
31 on the patrons -- debates surged and died, stories went charging off
32 with great abandon then disintegrated into myriad conflicts. Placing
33 the freshly trimmed reed in the chanter, the piper shouldered and winded
34 his pipes. With a slightly pensive air, he played "the Nut-Brown Maiden."
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37
Stretching his legs, Laseter stood up and began to look for a palce to
38 SELL HIS GEMS. THE STREET ON WHICH HE WAS MOVING RAN SOUTH AND EAST SO HE
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started in an easterly direction. he hoped that his hunch on their value
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was good, for if it was he'd be set up for some time. Long enough to be
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ready for Fin when he got there anyway.
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43 ;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;
44 #%&#%&#%&#%&#%&#%&#%&#%&#%&#%&#%&#%&#%&
45 HOW FAR BACK DO THE ARCHIVES GO ? I
46 WOULD BE INTERESTED IN AN 8-INCH VERSION
47 IN MSDOS IF FAR ENOUGH. 5.25 MIGHT BE
48 OK AS WELL.
49 #%&#%&#%&#%&#%&#%&#%&#%&#%&#%&#%&#%&#%&
50 ;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;
51 LURKER: YOU COULD HAVE SAID "MADE IT TO THE TOP" (SNIFF!) EVERYBODY
52 ELSE GETS TO!(WHAAAAA!!!!)
53 MIKEY: I, FINI FIN (AKA LASETER AND A FEW OTHERS), DO HEREBY SWEAR AND
54 AFFIRM TO NEVER USE THAT NASTY LITTLE TERMINAL ON THIS BBS AGIN! SEEMS
55 THE PESKY LITTLE VARMINT DOES TWO LINE FEEDS AT TIME ON A RETURN KEY. I
56 GUESS THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS FOR FREE, RIGHT?
57 ;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;
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60 Laz.-Fai.: No, I haven't had the pleasure of reading it. I don't even have
61 a motorcycle! It's also not clear from your cryptic comment exactly which
62 direction you are facing, and what you might be seeing. A Zen Master was
63 once asked, if the essence of Zen is the Three Pillars, why are so many
64 books written about it? His answer was that they are written for money.
65 Cistop Mikey: I sure agree that communications is the key to better
66 understanding between people. The idea of direct satellite transmission
67 as a vehicle for increased global understanding is an intriguing one. One
68 of the tricky parts is going to be the removal of the first order filters,
69 such as the ones that now are used to structure the network news. One of
70 the great joys of the 'backwater' is being able to read the ideas people
71 choose to express, without filtering and interpretation. Bravo!, for a
72 policy that offer the possibility of *real* communication between people.
73 No doubt, when the history books are written about this era, the computer,
74 and the ability to communicate-at-a-distance, will go down as two of the
75 most dramatic factors. They have introduced a vast potential for change.
76 With any great potential, there is the possibility of using it in a way that
77 is creative or a way that is destructive. The fact that you are reading this
78 puts you right in the middle of this process. Whether your influence is
79 large or small it does count. The rules are still very loose, but major
80 course directions are already beginning to appear. Computers can be viewed
81 as 'mind amplifiers', but what of the nature of the signal being amplified?
82 What of the filters called software? People who create computer software
83 obviously have major influence on the use domain. After all, aren't computer
84 programs 'freeze dried intelligence'? If some programmers knew just how
85 visible their thought are in the code they write, it might give them pause.
86 When you use a program you are obliged to experience the bias, concept,
87 and style of the people who created it. This means that people are going to
88 determine how these things affect our quality of life. Some of them are US!
89 It might be worthwhile to give some thought to which directions we wish to
90 support. The writing of the book of values is now being in progress...
91 { ^+/* --------------- The Mesolithic Mathematician --------------- */+^ }
92 TO THE MESOLITHIC MATHEMATICIAN:
93 DO YOU KNOW JOHN GRIFFIN?
94 WELL,I SURE DO(HINT HINT HINT)
95
96 --------------------------------UNKOWN KING-------------------------------------
98
99 Call 1-800-321-xxxx-XEROX COMPUTER SERVICE
100 Call 1-800-828-xxxx-XEROX AGAIN TWO NUMBERS
101 Call 228-xxxx or Call 228-xxxx
102 Z-100 KRCK
103 ***********************:INFORMER:*******************************
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110 TALKING ABOUT MY GENERATION
111 *$)#*_$%!_%(!_%(!_*(%_*%_@#*_@#*^_#(^_@#(+(^_@*^_@*_^@_^@*#_^*@_@_#*^_@*^_@*^
112 Set my camera to 'L', not R E A D Y, as some S.O.B. changed it to. Thanks.
113 *%)@#*%)*@#)*%#)@*)&%*$ L'homme sans parity *%)*%)@#*@#%@#_(_#(%@*#_%@#_%*@#_
114 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?/
115 Hum, someone around here has seen fit to change a lot of little things recently.
116 My trailing boarders for example. And now L'homme's
117 Mesolithic Math:Zen and the art of motorcycle maintinance has nothing to do witx
118 what the title suggests. It is, however, a very good book.
119 MiG
120 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?/
121 Hum someone around here has seen fit to change a lot of little
122 things recently.
123 My trailing boarders for example.And now L'homme's
124 Mesolithic Math:Zen and the art of motorcycle maintinance has
125 nothin to do witx
126 what the title suggests. It is, however, a ver good book.
127 MiG
128 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?/
129 ---------------===***************COPY CATT**************===---------------------
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131 Ted,
132 You categorically state that current interest rates are not a function
133 of the market. However, by your incomplete definition that follows your
134 statement, you partialy describe the very forces that determine the market
135 and thus the rates. How can that be ?....or simply stated either they are
136 controled without regard to the market and economic conditions ......or they
137 are taken into account and are a direct result of those factors.
138 Whats wrong in attracting direct foreign investment ?.
139 If you think that just because dollars are held overseas they are not
140 an integral part of money supply....I suggest you re-read the definitions of
141 M2 & M3 both have considerable eurodollar componets. As for being taxed at a
142 lower rate...up until July 31st 84 the overseas investor was taxed at a
143 rate of 30% on any gains. Currently they are taxed on a capital gains basis.
144 Hardly a condition one could call unfair.
145 You say " These past few months the government has been pushing the
146 interest rates to artificial lows "...Where have you been ? In the last 10
147 months there have been no less than 4 prime rate movements upward. The Federal
148 Reserve has raised the discount rate at least twice. And bond yields have
149 steadily gone up...An overall condition that is not indicative of any effort
150 on the part of government to " artifically lower interest rates ".
151 On the issue of Continental, I support the bail out. The precedents
152 of Chrysler, the Hunts etc. aside. One of the major roles of government
153 is to promote economic stability. To allow a multi-billion dollar institution
154 , the fifth largest bank in our country, a major clearinghouse and
155 correspondent of a multitude of mid-western banks, to falter would be to
156 encourage economic irresponsibility. The Fed is" the lender of last resort "
157 and does so with great deliberation and reluctance. Their intervention on
158 behalf of Continental was to promote economic stability....not hinder
159 american business interests. In the final analysis without governmental
160 participation the greatest losses would of been in the private sector.
161 And within that context there can be no qualms with "government interference".
162
163 voyeur,
164 Good...now if we can only get a bloody 5211 to stick around.
165 ...I had thought that L'homme had without a doubt proved the toxic nature
166 of that vile orange substance....And yet you went ahead and used the liquid
167 ...I have recent information that Sloane Kettering is considering its
168 use for acute " Diceus Abnormalus "...a common mental aberration effecting
169 players of board games....unfortunatly after the effects wear off the
170 patient is much worse....
171
172 Mig,........any news....
173
174 ::::::::::::Alex::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
188 \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
189 what do people with incurble bad breath do?
190 become dentists!!!
192
193 How did the nurse punish her demanding patient?
194 She dipped her rectal thermometers in ben gay!!!
196
197 ********************************************************** the mad joker *******
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199
200 I would appreciate if anyone could help me with a little problem. It
201 involves MBasic, serial ports, and a modem. I am trying to read the port
202 for incoming data ( using the inp command ), or sending data, with the out
203 command. If any know how to correctly configure a port through Mbasic, and
204 also can help me with such other problems of this nature. We can communicate
205 on this system or any others such as CBBS ( 775-xxxx ). Please leave
206 a note at least on this system. Thanx - Andrew Burke ( Morby )
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208 ^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^
209 Mes. Math. - Even the introduction to the book says it is not about
210 Zen, or even much about motorcycles. It is really about the
211 search of one man for Quality. An idea that was murdered by
212 Aristotle. It is indeed a 'good book', and I do recommend it to
213 you, as you seem to hold some of its precepts dear.
214
215 All - Reagan is back to a 15% lead over all in the country, and
216 has an even larger Electoral vote margin. Let's hear it
217 for economic sanity.
218
219 ^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^ Laissez-faire ^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^
220
221 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?/
222 Copy Catt:cute, very cute. but you made several mistakes, notably the rampant
223 control characters in the boarders. And I spelled "very" with a y.
224 Alex:no go, checked all files I could get to and he doesn't seem to exist.
225 Could this be by design?
226 Frank:still out there?
227 MiG-accept no immatations, they are prosably better!
228 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?/
229 \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
230 How can one call an economic policy that has produced the highest rate
231 of poverty in the last 30 years sane? Can one consider our huge "defense"
232 budget sane? Is building more, and more potent, weapons sound? What
233 mad reasoning can still support the concept of Mutually Assured Destruction
234 in light of the proliferation of nuclear technology and the recent report
235 on the climatic effects of limited nuclear warfare.
236
237 Sorry. You got me started on a blather.
238 Random.
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243 Andrew: Do you want to know what you can do with your ports and modems? (ha ha
244 laugh, that was a joke).
245 Have you figured it out yet? Oh, and my system won't be up at all.
246 My pascal disks though it would be funny to delete themselves then
247 blame it on the other guy. They are not to funny. It was just
248 starting to look good too. But now...
249
250 Alex: Don't your fingures ever get tired? Mine would after typing in all
251 those pages. Must that new "fingure yoga" that every one is talking
252 about.
253
254 All who| How would you go about changing your system.wrk.text into a runnable
255 might | file? I have tried but as I mentioned above, my disks don't like
256 know | me anymore. They always fill the screen with junk then say "Hit
257 about | Reset!" or they just freez up. Can you turn a workfile into an
258 Pascal | exacutable file? If not please tell me so I can stop all the fuss
259 that I'm creating.
260
261 .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .Mark. .. .. .. .. ..
262
263 I'M IN A BAD MOOD.
264 DON'T THREATEN ME,I MIGHT TAKE YOU UP ON IT. PROMETHEUS.
265 ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !
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271 HIGHEST RATE OF POVERTY IN 30 YEARS?? GEE, THE LAST TIME I SAW THE
272 UNEMPLOYMENT FIGURES IT WAS THE LOWEST IT HAS BEEN FOR SOME TIME
273 PARTICULARLY SINCE JIMMY WAS RUNNING THINGS.
274 ALTHOUGH I WILL AGREE THAT BUILDING MORE NUKES TO BLOW UP THE WORLD
275 100 TIMES OVER INSTEAD OF ONLY 10 TIMES OVER TO BE SOMEWHAT QUESTIONABLE
276 IN THE SANITY DEPT., STILL NO ONE HAS COME UP WITH A BETTER IDEA
277 ON HOW TO HANDLE THE WHOLE PROBLEM. JUST STOPPING WON'T WORK, THAT MUCH
278 IS KNOWN. SOMETHING ELSE HAS TO BE FIGURED OUT TO STOP THIS MADNESS.
279 A GOOD START WOULD BE TO FIRE ALL THE LEADERS OF THE MAJOR COUNTRIES
280 AND REPLACE THEM WITH PEOPLE WHO DON'T WANT THE JOB. THAT AND CHANGE
281 PEOPLE ONCE A YEAR WOULD GO A LONG WAY TOWARDS STABLIZING THINGS. UNFORTUNATLY
282 IT WILL SIGNIFACANTLY REDUCE PROGRESS AND A SIGNIFICANT LOSS OF CONTROL
283 WILL OCCUR UNLESS A VERY SOLID STRUCURE IS SETUP TO CONTROL THINGS.
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285 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?/
286 Alex:I hafe the disks you mentioneD that you needed. give me A ring
287 when you can and we can arange xfer of files. It is a 4 disk set.
288 MiG
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290 :::::::::::::::::::::O O:::::::::::::::O O::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
291 MiG: gee, your messages aren't exciting to read anymore - you seem to
292 have straightened out your modem. Oh well, from past experience,
293 it won't last.
294 ::::::::::::::::::::::O O:::::::voyeur:::::::::O O::::::::::::::::::::::::
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296
297 FROM HAWTHORNE: THE AGRAVATED
298 MAN IN GRAY; FORGET VOYEUR. I STILL FIND YOUR ENTRIES EXCITING BUT, THEN AGAIN MY MODEM KEEPS THROWING AN OFF-LINE AT ME
299 EVERY ONCE AND A WHILE TO KEEP ME INTERESTED.
300 FOR HE WHO ASKED; PCC FREIND; LAURINDA MCKINLAY. TAKING PASCAL ,COBOL ,CALCULAS ,AND ASSORTED OTHERS COURSES. KNOW HER?
301 ALEX; I'M STILL IN(DON'T EVER THREATEN ME AGAIN,DREERA)AND DO SO WISH TO BE. DISKINGS ARE OUT OF THE QUESTION. PRINTOUTS?
302
303 IT'S EARLY AND I HAVEN'T SLEPT IN THREE DAYS SO I DON'T TRUST MY EYERS, EARS, NOSE AND THROAT AS MUCSH AS EYE USED TO.
304 MIG- WHERE ARE YOU WHEN I NEED YOU?
305 GOOD BYE NOW,EVERY ONE AND I THINK MYADRENALINEJUSTRANOUT.
306 PROMETHE,YOU KNOW THE REST.
307 BYEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.
308 <+|+> {308} 08150431
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311 To the missguided defender of RAYGUN above.
312 Why don't you open your eyes and mind???You appear to be somewhat inteligent
313 ,at least in your entries (ie: spelling, punctuation etc.) but your attitude
314 in regards to your fellow human beings leaves a lot to be desired. The
315 poverty level is indeed up, from 9% in '79 to 15% now. Un-employment is also
316 still higher than in '79 in spite of what the RAYGUN administration would
317 like you to believe. Interest rates are a direct result of the Federal
318 spending not of Wall Street. The federal reserve has kept the lid on somewha
319 in spite of RAYGUN. If it wasn't for Volker we'd probably be at 25%
320 unemployment and 30% interest on morgtages. Our drugstore cowboy in the
321 Whitehouse is suffering from incurable
322 "I can do no wrong" syndrome and has not
323 been able to see the country beyond his own limited views
324
325 A vote for another four years of this fiasco is a vote for nuclear war and
326 a return to the middleages, right wing born-again attitudes. We need to go
327 back to the 1800's like we need to have dioxin in our drinking water.
328
329 #################C.Y.M.##############################LIFE LONG DEMOCRAT &
330 PROUD OF IT!!!!!########################
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334 Just a few quick replys. I'll save the raving for another time.
335 UNKNOWN KING: If you refer to the one called 'barefoot' I have had some
336 'remote' encounters, if you get my drift! By the way isn't your name
337 somewhat of a dichotomy in terms?
338 Laissez-faire: I'm sure it's a good book but I'd be more interested in
339 hearing what you think about such ideas. You sure hit the nail on the
340 head about Aristotle. I believe he also has the dubious distinction of
341 being the first in recorded history to place the accomplishments of
342 technology at the hands of political power, to wage war! Yes, Quality
343 is one value that I feel is worth supporting.
344 MiG: I'd be very interested in what your thoughts and ideas are concerning
345 such values as the ones expressed in the book.
346 { ^+/* --------------- The Mesolithic Mathematician --------------- */+^ }
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348 ;-;-;-;-;;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;;--;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;
349 OH PLEASE! NOT RONNIE AGAIN!! I CONSIDERED ANY INDIVIDUAL IN THE "HOTSEAT"
350 AS BEING SOMEWHAT QUESTIONABLE IN THE FIRST PLACE. I ASK THE FOLLOWING OF
351 ANY AND ALL:
352 1.WHAT WAS YOUR REACTION TO THE IRANIAN HOSTAGE "CRISIS"?
353 2.DO YOU FEEL FORMER PRESIDENT CARTER PERFORMED ADEQUATELY DURING THIS PERIOD?
354 3.WOULD YOU "BUY" A USED VICE PRESIDENT FROM HISS ADMINISTRATION?
355 4.DO YOU HONESTLY FEEL THAT MR. MONDALE IS GOING TO MAKE THINGS BETTER IF HE
356 GETS ELECTED?
357 I COULD GO ON, BUT I'VE LITTLE TASTE FOR DISCUSSING OUR SOMEWHAT DUBIOUS
358 "CHOICES" FOR A NATIONAL LEADER THIS YEAR. HAD THE DEMOCRATS PRODUCED A WOMAN
359 WITH THE PROPER CREDENTIALS FOR PRESIDENT I MIGHT BE EXICTED ABOUT WHAT MY
360 PARTY HAS TO OFFER. HOWEVER, I'M GETTING RERUNS FROM THE LATE SEVENTIES. SIGH!
361 AS FOR UNCLE RONNIE, I CAN ONLY SAY THAT THE MAN HAS DONE SOME VERY GOOD THINGS
362 FOR US, (I'M WORKING AGAIN) AND SOME PRETTY STUPID THINGS ALSO. JUST HEARD
363 HE HAD THE AUDACITY TO DECLARE WE PASSED LEGISLATION BANNING THE USSR. THANKS
364 A BUNCH!! REMEMBER, THE SOVIET PEOPLE HEAR ONLY WHAT THE KREMLIN SAYS AND I
365 WILL BET A BUCK THEY WILL HAVE A FIELD DAY WITH THIS!
366 ;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;FIN;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;
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368 $%$%$ MIG - Yes, I'm still here. Did you miss me? Frank $%$%$
369
370 ^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^
371
372 FIN - You are right, they are having a field day with this. But I will admit
373 it was a pretty stupid remark. But every one has the opportunity to
374 stuff his mouth with foot now and then.
375
376 M.M. - I feel that the concept of arete' as espoused by the sophists that
377 were so violently attacked by Aristotle was most illuminating.
378 That was a major turning point in history and evolution. Prior
379 to that time most thought was governed by the right hemisphere of
380 the brain. Since that time, with the advent of applied reason,
381 most thought has been governed by the left brain. The left brain
382 is called the 'rational side' of the mind, while the right brain
383 is referred to as the 'feeling' side of the brain.
384 We may have reached a point in human history that will force a
385 return to pre-Aristotelian thinking. I do not know if that is true
386 or not, but it seems that something will happen. Soon.
387 The Christians among us (Deborah comes to mind) do not feel that
388 a nuclear war is possible, and perhaps they are right. I do not
389 know, being an agnostic. I am leaning towards Christianity,
390 however, as it seems a good way to cope with the fear.
391
392 Others - Reagan has done an admirable job with the economy. My money
393 value has stabilized, any one who WANTS to work has a job available
394 to him/her, and a new wave of self and country esteem is
395 spreading through the nation. Not a bad bunch of accomplishments.
396
397 ^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$ Laissez-Faire $^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^
398
399 WE ARE ALL AGNOSTICS. SOME OF US ARE HONEST ENOUGH TO ADMIT IT.
400 WE ARE CALLED PRAGMATISTS, AMONG OTHER THINGS. OTHERS ARE NOT
401 HONEST ENOUGH TO ADMIT THEIR AGNOSTICISM. THEY ARE CALLED
402 CHRISTIANS, AMONG OTHER THINGS. THEY BELIEVE IT IS RIGHT, HOLY
403 ETC, TO CONVERT OTHERS TO THEIR SYSTEM OF BELIEF BY INSTILLING
404 FEAR IN THEM. FEAR OF SPENDING A VERY LONG TIME IN A VERY HOT
405 PLACE.THIS IS PARTICULARLY TRUE IF YOUNG IMPRESSIONABLE CHILDREN.
406 SOME 'CHRISTIANS', IE OTHER BRANCHES OF RELIGIOUS DOGMA LIKE
407 MUSLIMS, ISLAMICS,ETC, BELIEVE THAT THOSE WHO DISAGREE WITH THEM
408 SHOULD BE PUT TO DEATH, AS DID THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH. IF
409 SOMEONE SPEAKS OUT AGAINST US, THEN SILENCE THEM. PUT THEM TO
410 DEATH, LEST PEOPLE START TO THINK FOR THEMSELVES. THINK
411 ABOUT IT. THE 'CHURCHES' HAVE BEEN RESPONSIBLE FOR MANY TIMES
412 MORE DEATHS,TORTURE,BROKEN FAMILIES, WRECKED LIVES, THAN
413 HITLERS WERMACHT.
414 TIMES CHANGE. PEOPLE WILL NOT STAND FOR HANGING SUSPECTED
415 HERETICS. (CONFESS THOU ART A WITCH, OR WE WILL HANG THEE.
416 "AND IF I CONFESS? " "WHY, WE WILL HANG THEE".)
417 PEOPLE HAVE LEARNED TO THINK, INSTEAD OF HAVING THEIR THINKING
418 DONE FOR THEM BY SELF APPOINTED 'SAVIOURS WHO HIDE BEHIND THEIR
419 PULPUTIC BASTIONS OF HYPOCRICY.
420 MORE LATER?? THE PHANTOM PHILOSOPHER
421 ;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;--
422 Yes, the taste of athletes foot should be a familiar on to all. I can't say
423 I've relished my share. No doubt some would say it's a step in the lessons
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425 PHANTOM PHILOSOPHER: WHY DID YOU CHANGE YOUR NAME FROM DEMIAN II TO PHANTOM
426 PHILOSOPHER? I CAN UNDERSTAND WHY YOU CHANGED FROM C.Y.M. TO DEMIAN BUT
427 I DON'T UNDERSTAND THIS LATEST CHANGE. MAX
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429 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?/
430 Mesolithic Math:It was long ago that I read it, I shall dig it out again and
431 see what I can remember after reading some of it again.
432 Voyeur:Gee, thanks, but that last message looked a little ragged to me
433 as I had to change 1 line 4 times before my modem would let me get by with
434 only a few errors.
435 Frank:I was just wondering why you had not made any replies to what is being
436 said here. I find your opinions to be of value in forming my own.
437 Hawthorn:Why are you angered? If you don't wish to tell the world, get on PCS/
438 CBBS under a name I can deal with typing, and start a conversation?
439 I am sure by now that you know how to send private mail.
440 Political folk:I would love to reply, but I have to go to the unemployment
441 office now.
442 MiG
443 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?/
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445 As for Reagan sticking a foot in his mouth, it was some more than that, it
446 was a whole shoestore. I agree that Reagan's stands on economic issues are
447 more likely to keep this country's economy afloot. But we must realize that
448 good ol' Ronnie might just get us all killed, and then who cares about
449 the economy. I believe that Reagan is completely out of touch with certain
450 issues, mainly U.S. - U.S.S.R. relations. Someone who calls Russia " the
451 evil empire " is definately a threat. His ideas would not be so bad,
452 providing that he were in the old actors home in a position of no authority,
453 as opposed to holding the key to nuke the world. We cannot have someone
454 in office who believes that the Soviet Union must be exterminated, because
455 to attempt this would be signing our own death warrant. Good ol' Ronnie just
456 lives in a psuedo reality when people get killed, they come to life agin
457 once the filming stops. He may not directly believe this, but it is my opinion
458 that this idea lurks in the back of his head.
459 The other problem is that Ron is really just to old. He has lived a great
460 long life, so what does he care if the world is ruined after he departs
461 and goes to heaven. Of course he does not directly believe this, but again
462 it lurks in the back of his head. I cannot accept a President that no
463 matter how good his economic policies are, that has brought on the worst
464 relations towards the Soviet Union in quite some time, if not ever. This
465 is not to say that I like Mondale at all ( I don't ), but while the economy
466 suffers, at least we have better chances of being in existance. Having
467 a previously wonderful economy in a place that is radioactve wasteland
468 is bullshit ( excuse the language please ). Being unconfortably dead
469 is not a better state for this country and the world, besides the fact
470 that it doesn't appeal to me.
471 Anyone want to help me with the MBasic problem?
472 I have said enough - Andrew
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474 RAINdeer was a slick operation-the land, buildings, farm equipment,and a fleet
475 of white edsels (symbol of pure idiocy according to L'homme) bespoke a large
476 capital base. It was a great arrangement. The Rajneeshies were happy to
477 devote their wealth and energies to Dangerfield and he was happy to take
478 them. The followers got spiritually fulfilled and dangerfield got rich and
479 powerful. What a deal. But I had to envy them. I sometimes despised my
480 rigorous intellect which prevented the blissful unreasoning surrender of
481 blind faith.
482 "That building's hot," L'homme broke my thoughts. HOT???
483 Ma Prem had left us to arrange the meeting with the Head Consul. A slender
484 dark-eyed girl walked over to L'homme. "Terrific camera," she said loudly.
485 Then, softly and quickly, "You are alll in danger. Don't look in that
486 building. Don't even try. You must leave now. Please..." Her huge eyes
487 widened, "take me with you. I will find you when it is time." She turned
488 and was gone.
489 "Gosh," said Josh.
490 Rivers suddenly appeared. Had she seen? Her face was a mask of serenity.
491 We hurried to the Head Consul chambers. As we crossed a narrow opening be-
492 tween two buildings, We were engulfed in a pervasive rumbling sound. A
493 huge tractor was almost upon us. I plastered myself to the wall beside us,
494 but Ma Prem froze facing the enormous machine. Joshua tackled her and
495 shoved her into a doorway. The tractor trundled past us and crashed into one
496 of the barns. We scrambled up to the driver, a tall dark man with a thick
497 greying mustache and a ragged hole in his left temple. Rivers' face was
498 contorted with shock and grief. "Blackwell," she gasped. "Oh, God - not
499 Blackwell."
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502 Andrew : Good god! Do you really believe what you write? I am bewildered
503 that anyone could think thusly. "In the back of his mind"? Get serious!
504 Do you really think that because someone is old they have less of a zest
505 for life? Do you really believe that the old don't care about the future
506 since they have lived what you call a "long" life? Be rational about it.
507 CYM : "There you go again". As abusive as ever. It never ceases to amaze me
508 how people who utilize technology nearly always return to their primal
509 instincts of attack attack attack, abuse, abuse, abuse when using said
510 technology. Your voice is a heated one. Hot, but devoid of maturity. Can
511 you really be honest about feelings without insulting? Can you deal with
512 others on an equal level? I think not. You have never demonstrated any
513 sign of temerance. Your entries simply remind the rest of us that there
514 are dangerous people out there. People to be avoided. People who must be
515 feared because that little timebomb in their head could go off at any
516 moment. I hope I am nowhere near you when that huge chip you seem to be
517 carrying around on your shoulder falls off. The damage is unthinkable.
518 Phantom Philosopher : Your anti-religious stand has an interesting tone
519 to it. You too sound like someone who has been hurt be religion sometime
520 in the past, and you are extracting revenge with the pen by overreacting
521 to religious issues. Your convictions are strong, but so to are those who
522 would fight you. You may sing your song of anger loud and strong, but for
523 the most part it will fall on deaf ears. There can be no re-alignment now.
524 It is far too late hundreds of years before you were born.
525 L.F. and M.M. : Of all the discussions I read on here of late, only yours
526 resembles the sputterings of logical man. You contemplate the origins
527 of neo-political thinking, and equate them with the adjustment of thought
528 method. That is an interesting course, abliet incorrect though. Poor
529 ancient Greek philosophers, while possibly basking in the light of your
530 credits, would hardly take true credit for the things you say. As any
531 anthropologist would know, mans adjustment to his environment is not
532 wrought out of sudden change brought on by a single thought, but is changed
533 through the years by continuous social pressures. These pressures come from
534 the need to change in the first place. A vicious circle no? There can be no
535 greater need for change than danger to a life-threatening situation. The
536 change itself, magnified many times by the passing years becomes the new
537 standard, until it too must be modified. The changes you so adeptly pointed
538 out are merely the current response to our environment. Man is on the move.
539 He will not stagnate. It is impossible given the history and conditioning
540 of man. Change is as inevitable as the change in tides. Credit for change
541 must be given to Man himself, not individual men. Men may modify eddys,
542 but Real change was wrought in the hearts and minds of the human creature
543 at creation.
544 I have taken a great deal of time now, but I felt I must respond to the
545 slings and arrows of my fellow user. You may or may not hear more from
546 me, for I have done my stated purpose. If you care to answer my word,
547 then address your replies to Mellow Man.
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549 them as I see them. I have been around this world quite a while and I can
550 probably read the writing on the wall (as well as between the lines) a lot bette
551 than most. I've lived under both Democratic & Republican administrations
552 and been of voting age in the last 9 elections. Never before has the country
553 been in worse shape (financially & moraly) The present occupant of the
554 presidency is undoubtably the worst we have ever endured. I never thought
555 I'd say it but where is Nixon now. Even Nixon wasn't so insensitive to the
556 American people '
557
558 At least he did resign!!!!
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563 The pity is, all this talk, talk, talk, won't change a THING.
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565 As for instantaneous global communication, I see this as a effective step
566 toward univeral tolerance. To remove myth and fear from people's
567 perceptions of others is to acheive freedom. How does the Kremlin retain
568 power? Mostly by force, but partly by guile: "Those profit hungry imper-
569 ialistic madmen will destroy us! If we don't ... blah, blah". No doubt
570 many Russians believe. And we hear like words from Washington. The greater
571 reach we have as individuals the greater chance we have to show ourselves
572 as loving and alive. I believe we will have the opportunity to remove the
573 myths and fears we hold. That we will do it in my lifetime, however, is
574 doubtful.
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577 Religion: I gave up the god myth. '' ''
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581 WELL, IS ALL THAT STUFF ABOVE DONE? WHAT WAS IT? LINE FEEDS?
582 MELLOW MAN. WRONG. I AM NOT A PERSON WHO WAS "HURT" BY RELIGION
583 I AM A PERSON WHO HAS SEEN A LOT OF OTHERS HURT BY RELIGION.
584 WHAT I WAS ATTEMPTING TO SAY IS THAT I BELIEVE IN A LITTLE TRUTH
585 IN PROSELYTIZING (LOOKED IT UP, LOAM), LIKE WE NOW HAVE IN LENDING.
586 YES, I WAS EXPOSED TO RELIGION AS A CHILD, BY A VERY GREAT MAN.
587 A MINISTER. MY FATHER. HE TAUGHT ME THAT HIS BELIEFS WERE NOT
588 NECESSARILY EVERYONES BELIEFS. I LEARNED TO THINK FOR MYSELF.
589 NO ONE HAS THE RIGHT TO LIE, STEAL, CHEAT, LITERALLY KIDNAP
590 COERCE, THREATEN, ETC ETC, ANYONE
591 ELSE IN ORDER TO 'CONVERT' THEM TO THEIR BELIEFS. BUT THEY DO.
592 EVERY DAY. RELIGION HAS IT'S PLACE IN THIS WORLD. CHURCHES
593 DO COUNTLESS GOOD FOR MILLIONS OF PEOPLE. I HAVE NO QUARREL
594 WITH SUCH. WHAT I AM OPPOSED TO IS THE "DO THIS, THAT, AND
595 WHATEVER ELSE, OR GOD WILL SEND YOU TO HELL".WHAT DISGUSTS ME IS
596 RELIGION FOR A PRICE. CATHOLOCISM EG. EXCOMMUNICATION
597 WHICH, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, IS A NE WAY TICKET TO THE RIVER STYX.
598 WHAT I DO NOT LIKE ARE THE ORAL ROBERTS, L. RON HUBBARDS, SUN MYUNG MOONS
599 ETCETCETC. NOW DO YOU UNDERSTAND? MAX. WRONG.I AM NEITHER.PHANTOM PHILOSOPHER.
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604 "OMEGA SIX,OMEGA SIX! ARE YOU CAPABLE OF RECEIVING ME?"
605 FOR THE MOMENT, I CIRCLED THE GUARDTOWER'S OF THE ENCAMPMENT
606 AND THANKED STILETTO FOR SILENCE MODIFIED MINICOPTERS.
607 STATIC, AND MORE STATIC. THIS MADE TWO DAYS OMEGA HADN'T MADE
608 IT TO HIS TRANSMITTER. THIS WAS TOTALLY UNLIKE THE AGENT I KNEW.
609 I THOUGHT BY NOW WE WOULD HAVE TWO TOP HEAVY FEMALES IN A OUT
610 OF THE WAY CANTINE, AND WORKING OUR WAY THROUGH THE LIQUOR SELE-
611 CTION.
612 "OMEGA SIX,IF YOU RECEIVE,FUEL LOW HEADING BACK TO CLEARNG." I
613 CHOKED BACK A LUMP IN MY THROAT AND SAID I'D BE BACK SOON.
614 IF I'D HAVE TRIED FOR FIVE OR SIX MOMENTS LONGER I COULD HAVE
615 MADE OUT A CRY,AND A PLEA FOR MY HELP. BUT I ALSO WOULD HAVE
616 CRASHED INTO THE GUARDS BARRACKS SO I LEFT MY FREIND AND BARELY
617 GOT BACK TO THE CLEARING WITH AN EIGHTEENTH OF A CELL LEFT IN MY
618 POWER SUPPLY.
619 STILETTO AND MISS WAINWRIGHT, BOTH ASKED IN UNISON "ANYTH..."
620 THEIR VOICES TRAILED OFF WHEN, I GUESS, THEY SAW ME FROWN.
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627 NULL SET: OMEGA CAN'T HEAR YOU. HE HAS BEEN UH, WELL, HE HAS
628 DISAPPEARED. WASSIR: HAR HAR. WELL, I CAN TAKE A JOKE. MEANWHILE
629 WHERE ARE YOU? DELTA FIVE
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