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LIST FILE ON MARGIN IS 80 STATUS: ALL ALLOWED NUMBER OF LINES: 628 1 If you are in need of help, you need but ask.... 2 ************************* REMOVED 8 FEB 84 ***************** 3 Welcome to BWMS (BackWater Message System) Mike Day System operator 4 ************************************************************ 5 GENERAL DISCLAIMER: BWMS IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY INFORMATION 6 PLACED ON THIS SYSTEM. 7 BWMS was created as an electronic bill board. BWMS is a privatly owned 8 and operated system which is currently open for use by the general public. 9 No restrictions are placed on the use of the system. As the system is 10 privatly owned, I retain the right to remove any and all messages which 11 I may find offensive. Because of the limited size of the system, it will be 12 periodically purged of messages. (only 629 lines of data can be saved) 13 To leave a message, type 'ENTER' and use ctrl/C or break to get out of the 14 ENTER mode. The message is automatically stored. If after entering the 15 message you find you made a mistake, use the replace command to replace 16 the line. To exit from the system, type 'OFF' then hang up. 17 Type 'HELP' to see other commands that are available on the system. 18 ************************************************************ 19 20 ppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp 21 Smiling ruefully at his friend the bard, the piper agrees: 22 "Yes, I too need to spend more time blowing these pipes than oiling the piper. 23 I'll have these things going again soon and be able to give my attention o 24 some of the other happenings here." 25 With a deft twist the piper slid the slim conical chanter of the pipes out 26 of the wooden stock. Placing it to his mouth, he ran a few scales up and down. 27 Shaking his head slowly, he twisted the reed out of the chanter, and slid the 28 skean dhu from under the flash on his left hose top. The razor sharp blade 29 spat glints of light as he carefully shaved off a tiny sliver of the reed. 30 He placed the bare reed in his mouth with just the opening protruding, and 31 blew a short "kaaaaw kaaaw". Sliding the sheathed knife back into his hose 32 top, the piper placed the reed into the chanter. Another quick scale, a minute 33 adjustment of the seating of the reed and he reassembled the pipes. 34 At that moment, someone (daver was the name?) finished telling a long involved 35 story, and at the punch line, shaggy dog hair cascaded out from his table. 36 "omigod!" the piper exclamed. "telling a shaggy dog story in a 37 trans-dimensional tavern is a dangerous business!" 38 Swinging his pipes to his shoulder, the piper inflates the bag. A soft moan 39 comes out of the pipes as the bag reaches its capacity, then stops. With a 40 deft hand, the piper presses the inflated bag, starting the drones, then 41 squeezes the bag with his elbow. The high, thin voice of the chanter cuts 42 in forming a primitive harmony with the fixed drones. Fingers flitting like 43 hummingbirds darting from flower to flower, the piper feels out the notes of 44 a song. Satisfied with the tone of his pipes, the piper swings into a set 45 of dance tunes: pert and lively strathspeys -- the keel row, munlochy bridge, 46 rose amongst the heather, then the sean trubhais. His eyes nearly closed as 47 he listens to his tunes the piper does not see the pile of dog hair disappear 48 from the table near him. 49 ppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp 50 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= 51 Ok, you've discussed what might happen if you were to travel back 52 into time, but what about going forward. This would eliminate 53 most of the paradoxes at this end, but what about the other end? 54 Would someone be able to use time travel to predict the future, 55 or by such predicting would he alter some factor that would 56 also change the future he had visited? Or is time not only 57 relative but sort of random as well, so that any future we 58 visit has about as much chance and a coin flip of becoming 59 reality? 60 Consider also, what if only one way travel is possible? 61 What if once you got to your destination (either in the past or 62 the future) you could only go further? 63 Bo 64 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 65 This is a story from the book, Destiny, that I promised. For the sake of saving space I will use 126 wide columns. 66 67 THE RESCUE OF MARY ELLEN CONNOLLY 68 69 In the New York City of a century past, Etta Wheeler was a nurse and a church worker. She made rounds through the tenement 70 houses, helping out when and wherever she could. 71 It was in 1873 that Mrs. Wheeler began hearing the stories. Neighbors in one tenement house were certain something terrible 72 was going on in the Connolly apartment. Every night they heard the screams of asmall child. Would Mrs. Wheeler please look 73 into it, the neighbors asked? 74 The reports were too disturbing to be ignored, and so one day Mrs. Wheeler knocked on the apartment door of Mr. Francis 75 Connolly and his wife Mary. 76 Yes, they had a child, they said. A nine-year old foster daughter named Mary Ellen. What of it? 77 Mrs. Wheeler talked herself inside and caught a glimpse of the unimaginable truth. The Connollys had chained their little 78 girl to her bedpost. Her body was covered with wounds and welts and bruises in various stages of healing. She was emaciated 79 from what could not have been more than a bread-and-water diet. 80 Seeing this, Mrs. Wheeler demanded that the child be turned over to her. The Connollys told the nurse to mind her own 81 business and be on her way. For months thereafter Mrs. Wheeler returned to the Connolly apartment, hoping to rescue little 82 Mary Ellen, and yet each time the door was slammed in her face. 83 Everywhere the nurse sought assistance in the matter, she was refused. Charitable organizations insisted they were helpless 84 unless the youngster could be brought to them legally. The police and the district attorney could do nothing until evidence 85 was furnished that a crime had been committed. And in 1873 there were no laws against child abuse---only and unwritten law 86 that parents could rear their children in whatever way they saw fit, even if that way were unspeakably brutal. 87 The "meddling" Mrs. Wheeler had one last hope: a gentlemen named Henry Bergh. Mr. Bergh and the men serving under him 88 comprised a law enforcement agency. They were granted police power in New York City. 89 Early in 1874, Mrs. Wheeler visited this same Henry Bergh, described the ordeal of little Mary Ellen Connolly, and begged 90 Bergh to intervene. Moved by what he had heard, Bergh immediately assigned two of his best officers to the case. They 91 invaded the Connolly apartment and, armed with a writ of habeas corpus, took the cowering child into their protective custody. 92 93 Weak and hurting, whiplashed and scissor-slashed, the little girl had to be brought into the courtroom on a stretcher. 94 Spectators, men and women alike, wept aloud. The judge himself had to turn away, so pitiful was Mary Ellen's appearance. 95 There, in the middle of it all, was Henry Bergh, his voice filled with emotion as he recited the law which would save Mary 96 Ellen and send her abusing mother to the penitentiary for one year. 97 A warm, loving home was found for the wretched little girl. It sounds like a fairy tale, but she really did live happily 98 ever after. 99 And so did many others like her. For it was the case of Mary Ellen Connolly which inspired this nations movement to protect 100 defenseless children. 101 Even more specifically, that movement owes Henry Bergh. For when he rescued that battered child from a New York tenement, he 102 did so by the authority of the only extant law that applied. 103 Henry Bergh was the founder and president of the ASPCA. 104 To save Mary Ellen's life, he had to state in court, 'Your Honor, the child is an animal." 105 106 Now you know THE REST OF THE STORY. 107 108 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ P. V. Jeltz++++++++++++ 109 ####################################################"#############!#####! 110 He relaxed in his chair, enjoying the atmosphere of the Inn for another 111 evening. Most of the tomatoes and popcorn tossed at him from the last tale 112 had been cleared away, and some of his listeners had even returned to the 113 table. "Time, travel, eh?" Daver mused, "well, how about this one..." 114 115 It was one of those hot, lazy California afternoons when it's so quiet 116 that even the insects don't seem to move, and you can watch the lizards 117 sweat. I was tossing stones into the crater, seeing if I could get one out to 118 the shadowed center of the cone, out to where she lay under the boiling stone. 119 If she was sleeping peacefully there in Hell's tomb, I wanted to wake her up. 120 I was scuffing up my new shoes breaking loose another rock when the 121 Commissioner's airfoil sighed to a stop at the base of the slope next to 122 my new speeder, showering it with dust. I'd left the top down. I waited 123 patiently, staring down at the cracked and broken earth at my feet, feeling 124 the heat soak through my suit while he waved his guard to stay with the car 125 and started up to meet me. The old geezer was puffing when he finally made 126 the lip of the crater. I leaned against a convenient boulder and contemplated 127 the best use of my current stone, waiting for him to make the first move, and 128 wishing I'd brought my pills. Elected officials give me gas. 129 "Good afternoon, Connors. How's the investigation going?" he started 130 in, loosening his tie. 131 His name was Dinny Cookston, and by the grace of the people of Los 132 Angeles, god love'm, he was my boss. I amused myself by trying to toss a rock 133 on the ground just under where the sweat dripping off of his jowls would land. 134 "I'm afraid we're going to have to call this one a wash, Commissioner. I've 135 closed the case." 136 "Now, Jim," he temporized, "We've been getting a lot of heat down at 137 headquarters from some very important people to find Doctor Jaffee's killer. 138 You were even an eye witness to the crime. Now what could be so difficult?" 139 he showed his teeth. 140 I hate it when he calls me Jim. "You've read my reports." Actually I 141 hadn't filed any reports in the whole two weeks since Doc Jaffee bit the big 142 one. I just wanted to know if he did anything in that big office... 143 #############################daver##"#################################### 144 & & & 145 BO: There really is such a thing as time travel. It is strictly one-way, 146 forward, and we are all doing it all of the (pardon me) time. 147 && The Mad Actor && 148 *:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:* 149 150 SO MUCH FOR THE CALMITIES OF THE FORMER BACKWATER INN THAT I SO MUCH ADORED 151 IN THE DAYS GONE PAST. AIE IT IS A SAD SIGHT TO SEE IT DIWNDLE SO. 152 153 OBVIOUSLY THE ONLY ANSWER TO MY PROBLEMS IS SUICIDE. HA! 154 SUICIDE IS NOT A SOLUTION. ONLY A WAY OUT. 155 156 A WISE MAN WONCE TOLD ME ASK NOT WHY OR HOW. JUST UNDERSTAND THAT IT 157 IS. AND CAN ONLY BE CHANGED BY YOU AS IT IS YOU THAT WRITES THE STORY THAT 158 BELONGS TO THE WORLD. 159 160 161 MY, MY, MY. HOW PROFOUND I CAN BE IN TIMES OF DISTRESS. CAN ANYONE 162 TELL ME WHERE I CAN FIND MY FRIENDS??? 163 THEY WERE HERE A MINUTE O!!!!!!!!!!! 164 165 166 167 168 TA DA! IT HAS ARRIVED 169 170 *:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*: DRAMBOUIE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 171 172 =================================================================== 173 VAL: 174 THE SQUARE ROOT OF -5 IS EASILY FOUND USING IMAGINARY NUMBERS, 175 INDEED, EVERY 'UNSOLVABLE' IN MATHEMETICS HAS AN ANSWER, YOU MIGHT NEED 176 TO INVENT A NEW NUMBER SYSTEM TO FIND IT, BUT ISN'T THAT ALL MATHEMETICS 177 IS, AN INVENTION WITH WHICH WE CAN USE TO EXPLAIN REALITY. 178 179 DOES THE PROBLEM OF TIME TRAVEL FIT IN HERE SOMEHOW? 180 181 SQR(-5)=(SQR(5))I <== THAT SHOULD BE A SMALL 'I' 182 EVAN 183 184 ==================================================================== 185 186 MESSAGE TO SYSOP... 187 THERE WAS A SERIES OF ARTICLES IN "COMPUTE" WRITTEN BY A MICHAEL DAY. ARE 188 YOU THAT PERSON? 189 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= 190 The Mad Actor: 191 My apologies for missing the obvious. Now if we could only figure 192 out how to control direction. 193 Bo 194 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 195 & & & 196 Does anyone out there have a large, four-dimensional, steering wheel? 197 The problem is not only direction, but location/area. A singularity of 198 sorts. What is needed is a way to localize the effect, for if everything is 199 going the same direction it all looks normal. For all we know time may 200 actually turn back and forth, we wouldn't be able to percieve the difference 201 from where we stand. 202 This, of course, is impossible. 203 && The Mad Actor && 204 ********************************************************* 205 TO PERSON ABOVE ASKING ABOUT THE COMPUTE! ARTICLES, 206 YES, I AM THE SAME PERSON WHO WROTE THEM. I HAVE 207 NOT WRITTEN ANY OF LATE AS I NO LONGER HAVE THE TIME 208 AVAILABLE TO DO SO. 209 ***************** CISTOP MIKEY *************************** 210 211 XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX 212 Standing at the side of the road as the cold east wind 213 billows his cloak behind him. Tarn looks once more at Emer who 214 stands there quietly in front of him. "Will you not speak at 215 all? Why do you torture me thus? Have I offended thee?" 216 Frustration, concern, and sorrow pass through his mind, though 217 worry is above them all. Why does she not speak? Has his dark 218 manner caused him to lose a dear friend? Will he never hear that 219 sparkling voice and gentle tones leave those lips again? Even 220 greater is the worry that she may have returned to ways of old 221 and lost her voice. Looking again, her image before him begins 222 to fade. With fear that she may be lost, Tarn quickly snatches 223 the twig from the Rowan bush from his lapel and holds it out to 224 her in offering. 225 * Tarn * 226 XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX 227 ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? 228 MODEM AND SYSTEM OF MIG GOING bOWN RERY FAST,BACK WHEN I`CAN 229 MAN IN GRAY 230 ??????????/?????/???/?/??/???????????????????????????????????????????????1~~3~[] 231 &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& 232 LETS GET SOME MORE CONCEPTS INTO THIS TOPIC. FIRST OF ALL THE CONCEPT OF 233 TACHYONS AND TARDYONS. THE TARDYONS ARE ALL MATTER AS WE KNOW IT. THEY ALWAYS 234 TRAVEL AT LESS THAN OR EQUAL TO THE SPEED OF LIGHT. TACHYONS ARE PARTICLES 235 THAT TRAVEL ABOVE THE SPEED OF LIGHT. IF WE BELIEVE DOC EINSTIEN, THESE 236 F-T-L PARTICLES MOVE BACKWARD IN TIME. 237 NOW CONSIDER THE BLACK HOLE. NO PARTICLES MOVING THE SPEED OF LIGHT OR 238 LESS CAN ESCAPE INSIDE THE EVENT HORIZON. HOW ABOUT TACHYONS? CAN THEY GET OUT? 239 IF THEY CAN, IS IT NOT FEASIBLE THAT ALL MATTER ENTERING A BLACK HOLE IS 240 CONVERTED TO IT'S TACHYON EQUIVALENT? GOING BY THE ABOVE, WE NOW MOVE BACK 241 IN TIME. THUS WE CAN USE BLACK HOLES TO TRAVEL BACK IN TIME. WHEN WE REACH THE 242 PROPER TIME, WE GO THROUGH A WHITE HOLE(QUASARS OR PULSARS?) AND CONVERT TO 243 NORMAL MATTER. TWO PROBLEMS OCCURR, THOUGH. WE CAN'T MOVE FOWARD AT FASTER 244 THAN NORMAL RATE. TO RETURN TO YOUR TIME YOU MUST TRAVEL BACK THROUGH THE 245 BIRTH OF THE UNIVERSE, OVER TO THE END, AND BACK TO YOUR OWN TIME. THIS ASSUMES 246 THAT TIME IS CYCLIC, OF COURSE. IF IT IS NOT, WE HAVE A SERIOUS PROBLEM. 247 THE SECOND PROBLEM IS THAT WE CAN'T GET THORUGHT THE EVENT HORIZON OF A BLACK 248 HOLE WITHOUT BEING PULVERIZED BY THE TIDAL FORCES. THIS HOWEVER IS A MINOR 249 PROBLEM CONSIDERING THE ORIGIONAL THEORY. 250 251 THIS BRINGS SOME PSEUDO-SCIENTIFIC FACTS INTO THE AREA, SO LET'S KEEP 252 THE COMMENTS COMING!!!! 253 254 255 P.S. TO M.I.G. TARGET DID NOT SHOW UP, SO I NEED SOME HELP TO ACCOMPLISH 256 THE MISSION ONE DAY AT LUNCH. YOU DIDN'T MISS MUCH. THE NEXT ONE WILL BE TO GO 257 TO R.H.P.S. AND YOU ARE INVITED TO THAT ONE. ROBBIE HAS NEVER SEEN IT BEFORE. 258 259 JONATHAN CHANCE 260 &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& 261 pppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp 262 The piper swung the pipes from his shoulder and turned to the group deep in 263 scientific and pseudo-scientific speculation. 264 "Gentlemen. Should you be silly enough to actually want to experiment with 265 non-subjective time travel, the basic mechanism is much simpler than a black 266 hole. I believe that Hawking's work is responsible for the calculation -- 267 at any rate all you need is 1/4 solar mass formed into a rod longer than it 268 is wide rotating at ten thousand rpm. I don't have access to the information 269 at this moment, but under enough duress could probably find it. Oh-- I think 270 the dimensions are important, too. You will probably have to use some form 271 of degenerate matter to get the mass small enough. You navigate by the vector 272 of your approach. 273 Another thing -- you needen't worry too much about paradoxes-- 274 they presuppose a cause-effect relationship. Hawking also showed that in the 275 presence of an event horizon such as surrounds a black hole, causation is 276 void -- anything can happen. Philosophically, the mass of the universe is 277 close to sufficient to cause it to close. If indeed it does close, we are 278 within an event horizon..." 279 280 Smiling the piper winded his pipes and began a traditional set .. a march 281 strathspey and reel .. the pibroch of donald dbhu, the salmon leap, and sleepy 282 maggie. 283 ppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp 284 Jonathan:I'm afraid that you have it wrong. Einstein never said anything 285 about what might happen at FTL speeds. By extending his work some workers 286 postulated the existence of Tachyons. Also, Tardyons do not EVER travel at c. 287 Only particles with zero REST mass can travel at c. Tardyons have real, non-zero 288 rest masses. Tachyons have "imaginary" non-zero rest masses. As for going 289 backwards in time, ANTI-matter can be considered to be matter going backwards in 290 time. This shows the real problem. You'd better do your travelling in a vacuum, 291 or else BOOM! one less time traveller. 292 As far as I can tell from the equations, if you got a REAL mass going ftl, it 293 would have an "imaginary" time-rate. I suspect that it would be traveling 294 "sideways" in time. (see an story dealing with "parallel universe" or 295 "cross-time travel"). 296 Since many researchers in quantum mechanics seem to feel that the equations 297 imply the "real" existence of parallel universes (ie ALL possible outcomes of 298 any action at the quantum level, WILL occur at in at least one univers.) I think 299 that this concept may have some bearing on the paradox question. If you change 300 anything, you just follow a different branch (and thus will return to a 301 "different" future). If you travel to "the future" you will be going to (most 302 likely) the most probable future. Thus you can't be certain that that IS the way 303 things will happen. Now if you bring info back and start CHANGING things...... 304 305 As for the "spinning cylinder" time machine, to avoid lethal levels 306 of tidal force, you need an EXTREMELY massive cylinder (several solar masses) 307 spinning at a fair fraction of the speed of light. (You also need a way to keep 308 it from flying apart under the stresses!) Other than that, I agree with the 309 comments regarding it. 310 And yes, if black holes exist, causuality is inoperative! 311 _______________________________Leonard__________________________________________ 312 The apprentice walked over to the inkeeper. "Milord? I believe that something 313 needs to be done about the use of weapons in the inn. May I offer my small 314 services?" 315 .................. 316 To the gentles who patronize the Backwater Inn: Greetings and Felicitations! 317 I feel that we have a slight problem with the few patrons who seem 318 to insist on the use of weapons which violate The Compact. Use of any weapon 319 which is effective beyond the arm's reach of the wielder or which does not put 320 the user's life at the same risk as that of those he attacks, can only be called 321 cowardly. 322 Finally, since most of these patrons seem to be poor shots, they are 323 not just endangering their targets, but they are also endangering "innocent" 324 bystanders. 325 If they do not start exercising more self-control, it may be necessary to 326 impose external controls. I find this prospect most distasteful. 327 thank you, 328 ................................the apprentice.................................. 329 ####################################################################### 330 ..."You've been asking an awful lot of questions of some interesting 331 people in the two weeks since the doctor was murdered, then you disappeared 332 somewhere all last week, and now we follow you up here. I need to know 333 what's going on, Jim. You saw the killer and I want to know who he was!" 334 All I could do was shake my head. I give in too easy. Besides, the 335 obnoxious twit really did deserve the truth, just this once. "All right, 336 Dinny, pull up a rock." I started. As he settled himself, making an almost 337 inhuman effort to place at least some portion of his bulk in the shade, I 338 laid back against a boulder at the rim of the crater and pulled out my 339 notebook. I caught the glint of "evidence" in his eye. "You're right. 340 I did see the person who plugged Doctor Jaffee that night in the club, 341 but there was a slight problem with identifying him. You see, I knew he 342 had an airtight alibi." 343 "There's no such thing as an airtight alibi." he growled. "I could prove 344 you shot Lincoln given the right jury. Who was the killer?" 345 "I looked him right in the eye so's to show hm I wasn't kidding around. 346 "The person who shot Jaffee was Doctor Diane Gould." 347 "Hold it! Gould was..." 348 "That's right. Gould was sitting next to me having dinner with Jaffee. 349 What's more, about a hundred people including myself will swear that Diane 350 was sitting next to me across from the good doctor when he was shot in the 351 back." 352 He looked thoughtful for almost a second, the longest I had ever 353 witnessed the phenomenon. "So she has a twin, or an imposter, there are 354 a dozen possible explanations. That's no reason to let a murderer escape." 355 "No, it was Gould, all right." I insisted. "That's why we'll have to drop 356 the case." 357 The Chief sat back and relaxed a little more, and began the lengthy 358 process of lighting his pipe. "You were one of the best men we had on the 359 force once, Connors." he grudgingly admitted, then he looked up and smiled. 360 "OK, explain." and he sat back to listen... 361 #################################daver################################### 362 363 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 364 Dear most Noble Patrons: Please Do Not Be Alarmed. Although we have 365 endeavored to keep any Violence as far from the Inn as possible, a few 366 wayward shots by the Krishners seem to have upset you unduly. Please 367 be assured that these are merely manifestations of you Imagination, and 368 are not Real. They cannot Harm you. Only those who Believe may be 369 altered by these Wraiths. Only one thing however: If you see a bright 370 flash, get under cover! 371 372 Contremon 373 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 374 And who the hell gave the Albanians those Nukes, anyway? 375 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 376 377 378 ---------------------------------------------------------- 379 I have finally caught up to Tarn, and I stand out of breath and 380 tongue-tied. My appearance must certainly be disheveled from the run, 381 and Tarn eyes me with a mixture of emotion in his face. 382 Tarn, my good friend, you have not given me any offense, and I 383 hope that my unpredictable schedule has not given such to you. We 384 spend some of our times in this fair land of Inisfail, from which we 385 derive much pleasure, but the world outside has called to me much of 386 late, and has prevented me from coming to the Inn as often as I would 387 have wished. My absence has not been of my choosing, but one forced 388 upon me by circumstances totally beyond my control. My life is usually 389 one of reasonable calm, but of late the shores of my world have been 390 washed by tides of past times, so much so that I haven't even been able 391 to indulge in my favorite pass-times. I have lost track of what has 392 happened in the Inn, lost track of friends, lost track of life itself, 393 but I hope that I will soon be able to right myself and return to a 394 more active existance in this world. 395 Please bear with me, I have no anger or hostile feelings, I 396 merely am somewhat harried at present. I will return, good friend, and 397 I hope to spend more time here in this most lovely of worlds. 398 - Emer - 399 ---------------------------------------------------------- 400 401 MIKE, 402 THIS IS HANNK BANNISTER TRYING OUT THE SYSTME. NEEDLESS TO SAY I'M A LITTLE LOST. HOW DO I GET AN OVERVIEW OF THE MESSAGES ON 403 404 405 XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX 406 She speaks! Yet in his fog befudled mind he did not hear 407 her. Instead he must settle his unease with reading the note 408 Emer has left in his hand. Perhaps he has been to hasty in 409 reverting to old times and memories though they are so near it is 410 hard to not do so. With that thought Tarn decides to return to 411 his customary place at the Inn in the hope that soon Emer will 412 once more return with her laughing smile to ease his mind. With 413 that thought he turns and follows the long trail Emer has left 414 back to the Inn. 415 * Tarn * 416 XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX 417 418 ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? 419 TIME TRAVELERS: FOR AN INTERESTING TALE OF TIME AND IT'S MANY PARADOXES, 420 READ "COLLISION COURSE", BY BARRINGTON J. BAILEY. I CONSIDERED IT A 421 PRETTY FAIR SCI-FI TALE. 422 WHEN YOU EXAMINE AN ATOM, AND THE ELIPTIC COURSES INVOLVED, AND COMPARE 423 THESE TO THE ELIPSES(?) FOLLOWED BY PLANETS AND SUNS, THERE IS AN AS- 424 TONISHING SIMILARITY. FROM THE SMALLEST PARTICLE TO THE LARGEST IN THE 425 UNIVERSE WE FIND TOTAL HARMONY OF MOVEMENT. PERHAPS THIS IS THE CAUSE 426 OF TIME. MAYBE WITHIN THE PHYSICAL UNIVERSE TIME TRAVEL IS IMPOSSIBLE!! 427 ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!DEBORAH?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! 428 &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& 429 I APOLOGISE FOR MY INCORRECT FACTS. SHOWS WHAT YOU GET FOR TRYING TO RECALL 430 PHYSICS FROM TWO YEARS BACK AT 12:00 AT NIGHT. THANKS FOR THE CORRECTIONS. 431 THIS REMINDS ME OF SOMETHING. THOSE WHO ARE FANS OF HEINLEIN REMEMBER IN 432 "THE NUMBER OF THE BEAST" HE STATED THAT EVERYTHING IS A FIGMENT OF THE 433 IMAGINATION OF SOME BEING. OVER LUNCH ONE DAY I MENTIONED THIS, AND ASKED 434 ANYBODY TO PROVE THEY WERE NOT FIGMENTS OF MY IMAGINATION. THIS WAS STUPID, 435 AS ALL IT SUCEEDED IN DOING WAS TO GET SEVERAL PEOPLE MAD AT ME. 436 I NOW POSE THE SAME QUESTION TO YOU PATRONS OF THE INN, IN HOPE OF SOME 437 INTELLEGENT ARGUEMENT(THE ABOVE MENTIONED INCEDENT OCCURED AT A PUBLIC 438 HIGH SCHOOL, SO THE INTELLENGCE HERE SHOULD BE A BIT MORE REASONABLE). 439 BY THE WAY, THIS COMBINATION OF STORIES AND DISCUSSION IS JUST THE RIGHT 440 BALANCE. KEEP IT UP!!!! 441 442 JONATHAN CHANCE 443 &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& 444 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> 445 Deborah, you seem to have gained your own portal into this world...how 446 pleasant! My question is: what is eliptic in an atom? 447 Aaron 448 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> 449 ############################################################################ 450 451 If you could possibly travel into the past what 452 would you find. The people of that time (say 100 years ago) are 453 all dead by now. The only way anyone could 454 possibly travel into an exact replica of the 455 past is if it is repeated 456 endless amounts of times. Or perhaps it 457 is like a film. each moment is a single picture. 458 trTravelling back would place you into one of 459 these still's and from there you would 460 proceed forward to the next. 461 The problem is, getting to the picture of the past. 462 463 ######################################################## 464 ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? 465 ARRON: I'M SORRY I WAS'NT CLEAR IN MY PREVIOUS STATEMENT. THE PROTONS 466 AND NEUTRONS TRAVEL AROUND THE NUCLEUS IN THE SAME ELIPSE AS THE PLANETS 467 AROUND THE SUN. SAAVY? 468 ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?DEBORAH?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? 469 XRXRXRXRXRXRXRXRXRXRXRXRXRXRXRXRXRXRXRXRXRXRXRXRXRXRX 470 JUST SAW AN INTERESTING ITEM ON THE NEWS ABOUT A TOWN 471 IN SC WHICH IS STRUGGLING WITH A PROBLEM OF MARATHON 472 SIDEWALK PREACHING. WHILE I AM AS MUCH IN FAVOR OF 473 RELIGOUS FREEDOM AS THE NEXT MAN, THE PROBLEM THAT 474 THESE SIDEWALK PULPET POUNDERS IS CAUSEING IS THE 475 LOSS OF BUSINESS TO THE STORES IN FRONT OF WHICH THEY 476 PREACH. I FIND THIS TO BE AN INTOLERABLE SITUATION. 477 FOR THOUGH I AGREE THEY DO HAVE THE RIGHT TO SPEAK 478 OUT, I DO NOT FEEL THAT THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO 479 DISRUPT THE BUSINESS OF THESE STORES, NO MORE SO THEN 480 ANYONE ELSE. THESE BUSINESS PEOPLE HAVE DONE NOTHING 481 TO DESERVE THIS TREATMENT, AND I DON'T FEEL THAT THEY 482 HAVE ANY REASON TO BE SUBJECTED TO THIS TREATMENT. 483 THE PREACHERS WERE OFFERED AN ALTERNATE PLACE TO 484 DO THEIR POUNDING, BUT THEIR RESPONSE WAS TO SUE THE 485 CITY FOR INFRINGMENT OF THEIR RIGHTS. WHAT ABOUT THE 486 RIGHTS OF THE AFFECTED BUSINESS MEN? ANY RESPONSE TO 487 THIS ONE? 488 XRXRXRXRXRXRXRXRXRXRXR REX XRXRXRXRXRXRXRXRRXRXRXRXRX 489 ######################################## 490 491 HELLO, I'M AN APPLE II+ OWNER WITH A PRINTER, 64K, AND A MICROMODEM IIE. 492 IF THERE'S ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO, URR, BACKUP SOFTWARE WITH ME 493 THAT WOULD BE GREAT. MY NUMBER IS 635-xxxx. GET BACK TO ME, ANYONE! 494 - THE WALRUS 495 ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? 496 jonathan chance,working,but not well,sears diehard and a +5v regulater.no ovp as 497 yet and regulation leaves somthino to be desired ie. charicters slip up.rhps for 498 whoops,sorry lost it there.blue should wait untill john c's memory fades.chance 499 of mesurable apperance up to 86.7% now. 500 The Walrus,your going to get a lot of heat for that last message. 501 Aaron,give me a date for joan didion o.k.? 502 Derborgkjk 503 bad power supply people, 504 Deborahldoes your last name begin witx a "D"? 505 time for a recharge,see yaall later, 506 The Man in Gray 507 ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? 508 ____________ 509 ALAN's UNABRIDGED 510 511 Now, it's anything goes. Pornography comes directly into your living room through a cable. 512 Yet once upon a time, you would have had to leave the country to see a pornographic movie or to buy a sexually explicit 513 publication. 514 When Alan was living in Europe, he bought and read a dirty book. It was widely available there, and much of the material 515 raised the young American journalist's eyebrows. 516 When Alan returned home, he brought the book with him. 517 And then he noticed that same book was on sale here in the United States. 518 Almost the same book. 519 A censored version. 520 Journalist Alan did not believe in censorship. He felt it was the American public's right to read even the most unsavory 521 literature. 522 In this case a Boston publisher, the Houghton Mifflin Company, was printing a laundered version of this dirty European book, 523 three dollars a copy. 524 Alan was outraged. He brought the matter to the attention of New York newspaperman Amster Spiro. 525 Both men agreed that there was no justification for the censorship. Alan proposed that they publish their own version of the 526 book in the United States---that is, the original version translated into English. While the fumigated Houghton Mifflin 527 edition was selling for three dollars, Alan and his friend could make their no-holds-barred edition available for ten cents a 528 copy. 529 Alan spent a week at his friend's home in Connecticut, working painstakingly on the original translation. After his eighth 530 eighteen-hour day, it was finished. 531 Alan's edition was published quickly. In days the book was offered at booksellers and magazine stands nationwide. A half- 532 million copies were sold during the first ten days on the racks. 533 Then, the predictable legal action. The courts ruled that Alan's publication was to be taken out of the stores and off the 534 stands. 535 And it was. 536 But by then, Alan had made his point: The worst thing you can do to a dirty book---is try to clean it up. 537 Californians know and respect the man that young journalist became, U.S. Senator Alan Cranston. 538 Before you evaluate what he did back in 1938, you should know something about the litigation that got his publication pulled 539 from the shelves. 540 The AUTHOR of the original book had sued Alan for violation of copyright. It had been the author's INTENTION to publish a 541 watered-down version of his work in the United States, because he did not want Americans to know THE REST OF THE STORY. 542 Young Alan Cranston and fellow publisher Amster Spiro wanted us to recognize the long-range plans of author Adolf Hitler: 543 German military expansion and the liquidation of the Jews. So they, Cranston and Spiro, published the unlaundered version of 544 world's dirtiest book, Mein Kampf. 545 546 ____________________________________________ P. V. Jeltz ____________________ 547 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 548 HEY! Somebody erased my message, I bet it 549 was the sysop. HEY sysop! What was wrong 550 with my message? Are you some religious fread 551 That thinks the good lord will save us all? 552 Face facts buddy, people like that are ****** in the head. 553 *666* SATAN RULES *666* 554 555 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 556 The Moron 557 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 558 ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? 559 hay dude,we dont need that kind of crap on the system,satan does not rule, 560 and niether does god,I did not delete your "message",I do not believe in censorship. 561 but we do not need the language on the board,if you have an opinion we would all 562 like to hear it.just keep it clean and your notes will stay up. 563 The Man in Gray 564 ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? 565 The poet fell through the doors of the Inn and out into the cool night air. 566 Making a futile attempt to catch his breath, his eyes came to a momentary focus on a young man about to enter the inn. 567 "Don't do it! Don't go in there! It's too dangerous!" 568 "How so, old sot?" 569 "It was bad enough with the wizard and his magic wand spinning in a vacum at 570 the speed of light. At least we know they just went up to next week to check 571 out the stock market and the ponies. But now there's a fellow in there trying 572 to raise up a pirate crew. What if they tried to take over the inn? Where can an artist drink in peace?" 573 "Sounds like just my night," the young man said as he pushed past the poet and 574 through the Inn's doors, his sulphrous after-shave hanging in the cool evening air. The poet decided to sleep at home, 575 for tonight. 576 && The Mad Actor && 577 ppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp 578 The piper paused after his tune. 579 Jonathan Chance: 580 Reality is a consetual decision. The world exists because we jointly agree 581 that it does indeed exist in the form we percieve. If we change the agreement ............. 582 583 Deborah: 584 You appear to have a few basic misconceptions. I don't want to take up too 585 much space with basic physics (and mine is about 15 years out of date) but-- 586 1. The nucleus of an atom is the mix of protons and neutrons. They contain 587 the bulk of the atom's mass and a (+) positive electrical charge. The nucleus 588 is held together by *very* short-range nuclear forces. 589 2. Electrons surround the nucleus, not in elliptical orbits, but in probability 590 clouds. The shape of these clouds are quite complex, but in addition to spheres 591 you will find lobes projecting out from them. Electrons inhabit "orbitals" 592 and a maximum number can inhabit a given orbital. (the orbital nearest the 593 nucleus can hold two electrons). If less than the maximum number are in place, 594 a tendency exists for the orbital to "desire" more electrons. If two atoms, 595 both containing orbitals desiring an additional electron come into contact, 596 they can share an electron in a single probability cloud. This is called 597 covalent bonding and is the basis for the bulk of organic chemistry. 598 599 With a wave, the piper walks over to a corner table. His throat was quite 600 dry with piping and talking. 601 ppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp 602 ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! 603 MAN IN GREY: YES, MY LAST NAME BEGINS WITH A D. BUT I AM NOT d, IN CASE 604 YOU THOUGHT SO. 605 I STAND CORRECTED. IT HAS BEEN ABOUT 10 YEARS SINCE SOME OF MY STUDIES 606 IN THAT AREA OF SCIENCE. SO IT'S THE ELECTRONS, NOT THE PROTONS AND NUE- 607 TRONS. INTERESTING. 608 ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!DEBORAH?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! >