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2 ******************** REMOVED: 27 SEP 83 ******************************
3 Welcome to BWMS (BackWater Message System) Mike Day System operator
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24
25 JEEZUS!! I CAN'T STAND IT!! SAN ! ANOTHER BLANK DISK STARING AT US.
26 IN REFERENCE TO THE THANKFULNES& ON THE OTHER SIDE, I'LL HAVE TO AGREE WITH 'DOM'. GOD HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT EXCEPT
27 BE RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL THOSE DEAD AND CRIPPLED MEN THAT HAVE FOUGHT OUR 'HOLY' WARS IN THE PAST. AFTER ALL IF IT WASN'T FOR R
28 RELIGIEION WE WOULDNT HAVE ANY WARS! JUST LOOK BACK IN HISTORY!
29 THE BLOODY CRUSADES, CHRISTIANITY AGAINST ISLAM ETC.
30 WW II, HITLER AGAINST THE JEWS
31 VIETNAM, CHRISTIANS AGAINST ATHIESTS (REDS)
32 LEBANON, JEWS & CHRISTIANS AGAINST THE MOSLEMS ETC.
33 SAN SALVADORE, ANOTHER VIETNAM.
34 IF ONLY WE COULD GET RID OF ALL THE BIBLE THUMPING BIGOTS IN THIS WORLD IT MIGHT BE A HALF-WAY DECENT PLACE TO LIVE.
35 WHEN I THINK OF ALL THE BLOOD THAT HAS BEEN SPILLED IN THE NAME OF SOME STUPID FIGMENT OF THE IMAGINATION (GOD) AND ALL THE M
36 MONEY SPENT IN THE SAME WAY, IT'S NO WONDER WE HAVE SUCH HIGH TAXES. IF ALL THE CHURCHES PAID THERE OWN WAY, IE; TAXES;MX MI
37 MIS&SSELS; TRIDENT SUBMARINESS; ETC. WE WOULDN'T NEED TRILLION DOLLAR DEFENSE BUDGETS!
38 ###################C.Y.M.#######################################################
39 CYM: You had better re-check your history. There have been wars
40 in which religion played very little part. I suspect that while
41 removing the "bible-thumpers" (of ALL faiths) would improve things
42 greatly, we would still have LOTS of trouble. (by the way, Marxism
43 as practiced in most communist countries, bears a marked resemblance
44 to a revealed religion!)
45
46 BAD: I hate to tell you this, but after puberty there are only
47 two effects from castration. 1. You are no longer fertile.
48 2. You may have PSYCHOLOGICAL problems (impotence etc).
49 You see, the Adrenal glands will still supply an adequate amount
50 of testosterone. It may reduce the level, but for that Depo Provira
51 is a much simpler (& less final) solution. I don't recall saying
52 much about "easy" solutions, except perhaps that they usually wind
53 up being more trouble than the original problem.
54
55 DOM: I hate to say this, but I GOOFED! I really wanted the square
56 root of MINUS i (-i). Somehow, I forgot BOTH "-" signs. Sigh....
57
58 I once heard a "unique" solution to the drug problem suggested:
59 Remove ALL restrictions on the sale & use of drugs by ADULTS.
60 In a few generations, natural selection will have taken care of
61 the problem. Anyone dumb enough to misuse drugs, or to use them
62 improperly (antibiotics, painkillers, without knowing what they
63 are doing) will eliminate themselves from the gene pool.
64 I didn't say I AGREE with this, but it IS an "interesting" point
65 of view!
66 ___________________________Leonard__________________________
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68 I'm not a very religious person, but I think if you examine history carefully;
69 you'll find that most wars are based on economics rather than religion. This
70 includes Viet Nam, WWI & WWII. A prime example would be the U.S. Civil War.
71 On the face, it seemed to have been fought over slavery; but the real factors
72 are economic. An agrarian South vs. a industrial North...northern control of
73 the legislature, thus the enactment of laws and tarrifs to benefit industry and
74 hamstring southern agriculture.
75 Michael
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77 FT BY: LOCK BUSTER
78 DATE POSTED: TUE MAR 23 10:13:41 PM
79
80 THE FOLLOWING IS FORMATTED FOR AN 80 COLUMN PRINTER
81 USING LOCKBUSTER ][
82 IN SAVING THE CONTENTS OF A 48K MACHINE TO DISK, SEVERAL PROBLEMS ARISE:
83 1) IN ORDER TO GET CONTROL AWAY FROM A PROGRAM, THE RESET KEY MUST BE USED.
84 RESET IS HIT, THO, ESSENTIAL PARTS OF MEMORY (PAGE ZERO, THE STACK, THE
85 YBOARD BUFFER AND THE SCREEN) GET CLOBBERED.
86 2) TYPICALLY, DOS ISN'T IN THE MACHINE AND NEEDS TO BE LOADED, AND THE
87 ESS OF LOADING IN DOS WIPES OUT MORE PARTS OF MEMORY.
88 ONCE DOS IS LOADED, IT WON'T ALLOW BSAVES LONGER THAN $7FFF BYTES
89 LOCKBUSTER ][ ADDRESSES THE FIRST PROBLEM. THE CONTENTS OF PAGES 0 THRU 7
90 CATONS $0-$7FF) ARE MOVED UP TO $800-$FFF BEFORE ANYTHING ELSE IS DONE.
91 IS PRESERVES A COPY OF EVERYTHING WHICH NORMALLY GETS WIPED OUT (BUT OF
92 OURSE DESTROYS WHATEVER WAS IN $800-$FFF).
93 AVING THE ENTIRE CONTENTS OF MEMORY (WORSE CASE!) IS A MULTI-STEP PROCESS,
94 NCE NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO, SOMETHING'S GONNA GET WIPED OUT. THE PROCESS
95 ESCRIBED HERE WILL SAVE OUT FOUR CHUNKS OF MEMORY TO THE DISK. THESE
96 CHUNKS RESIDE IN THE FOLLOWING RANGES:
97 $0000-$07FF
98 $0800-$08FF
99 $0900-$97FF
100 $9800-$BFFF
101
102 ORDER TO SAVE OUT 48K, YOU'LL NEED AN OLD MONITOR ROM (NOT THE AUTOSTART
103 ), LOCKBUSTER, AND A 48K SLAVE DISK. THE WORSECASE PROCEDURE FOR SAVING
104 HI SUE WE ARE HAVING A BLAST WITH THE KAYPRO IF YOUWANT TO CHECK OUT THE DETAILS PLEASE CALL ME AT THE OFFICE.
105 /////////?
106 what the hell was that?
107 //////////
108 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
109 FOR SALE:
110
111 pH METER, Model 601A (Orion 060102) -Digital meter with
112 1.5cm high, 7-segment LED display, readable up to 33 feet.
113 Unit features manual and automatic temperature compensation,
114 variable isopotential point (pH 6-8), slope indicator, Karl
115 Fischer polarizing current, absolute and relative millivolt
116 modes and tilt base which allows unit to be set between
117 0-30 degrees tilt. Numerals are blanked with polarity sign
118 for out-of-range indications. Amplifier drift is less than
119 100 micro-volt/degree C and unit is equipped with BCD output
120 for interfacing to printer (orig. equip.). Steel case is
121 protected with scratch-resistant and chemical-resistant poly-
122 ester paint. Dimensions: 33 w x 18 d x 9 cm h. Specs:
123 range=0-13.99 pH;-1999 - +1999 mv
124 Accuracy/Reproducibility=+/- 0.01 pH; +/- 1 mv or 1% of reading
125 Temperature compensation=0-100 degrees C
126 Input impedence=10 to the 13 ohms
127 list price=$795
128
129 will sell to best offer recieved prior to next friday...
130 funds going to a public access data base system here in
131 good 'ol portland.....
132
133 Aaron (661-xxxx)
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135 addendum:
136 unit includes a box of various-condition pH electrodes,a case of buffer
137 solutions, buffer mix, manual, and electrode holder.
138
139 additional "for sale":
140
141 glassware:
142 if you can name it; chances are good i have a case of them
143 offer me something......
144
145 reagents:
146 everything (except solvents)......most unopened..
147
148 filter media:
149 lots!
150
151 Torsion Balance/mass set/weighing papers.....
152 any offer excepted (even irrational!)
153
154 Water Purity meter:
155 micro-mhos, good for testing purity of distilled H2O....
156
157 no; federal agents arn't coming after my home drug labratory,
158 this equipment was just for hobby use......most unoppened and new..
159 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
160 Oh, C.Y.M: I think you are about to receive a particularly scathing message
161 vis-a-vis the beating of drums and of Bibles! Head for the hills.
162 Go easy on the poor soul, little one: charity befits you. Dave
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164 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 23 Sep 83 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
165 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 23:23 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
166 So, so wrong, Dave...though it is good to hear the chuckle in your
167 voice, and I can just picture you sitting back with bright, dancing
168 eyes, ready for the wild fight you think is coming...
169
Aaron, long-lost traveler! How wonderful to finally hear your
170 exuberant greeting above the hubbub; and how astonished was I at the
171 warmness of your tone...religion, a 'middle ground' say you?! Ach,
172 Aaron, you chose the wildest controversy of them all--! But I will
173 not shrink back from this controversy, for the Bible happens to be one
174 of the few subjects I know thoroughly. (It happens to have a great
175 deal to say about Life, the Universe, and Everything, not just sad
176 tales of heros, or flourished poetry about shepherds...)
177
Religion (as a whole--both Christian and pagan) happens to be
178 described in the Bible as a despicable prostitute, entirely unfit to
179 represent God, as follows: "Come, I will show you the judgment upon
180 the great harlot who sits on many waters, with whom the kings of the
181 earth [governments of today] committed fornication, whereas those who
182 inhabit the earth were made drunk with the wine of her fornication...
183 upon her forehead was written a name, a mystery: 'Babylon the Great,
184 the mother of the harlots and of the disgusting things of the earth.'
185 And I saw that the woman was drunk with the blood of the holy ones
186 and with the blood of the witnesses of Jesus."
So you, CYM, are quite
187 justified in condemning the hypocrisy of religion that claims to teach
188 peace and yet is the cause of so much anguish via so-called 'just wars'!
189
Nevertheless, God is not watching this scenario benignly; in fact,
190 The angry sentiment you expressed regarding these hypocrites; i.e. "if
191 only we could get rid of all the Bible thumping bigots in the world..."
192 is actually a fulfillment of prophecy, for the governments are even now
193 growing weary of the power religion wields, and that is Precisely what
194 they are going to do! "And the ten horns that you saw, and the wild
195 beast, these will hate the harlot and will make her devastated and
196 naked, and will eat up her fleshly parts and will completely burn her
197 with fire...because Jehovah God, who judged her, is strong."
198
Why don't you pull out that dusty volume in your own library, CYM, and
199 enjoy the description of religion's "shameless luxury" and her foretold
200 destruction, in Revelations chapters 17 and 18?
201
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202 ################################################################################
203 TO;: > D <
204 I HARDLY NEED TO GET OUT THAT VOLUME OF FICTION TO KNOW OF WHAT I SAY. THE BOOK
205 YOU REFER TO IS NOTHING MORE THAN THE IMAGINATION OF MANY GONE BERZERK UNDER THE
206 INFLUENCE OF THE UNKNOWN AND SOMEONE PROFES&ING TO KNOW ALL.
207 I STAND BY MY STATEMENT ABOVE THAT ALL, I REPEAT ALL!! WARS ARE OF A RELIGIOUS
208 CAUSE! TRUE THAT THERE ARE FINANCIAL RAMIFICATIONS TOO BUT THEN NEVER ENOUGH TO
209 DESTROY THE 'CHURCH'.
210
211 ################C.Y.M.##########################################################
212 In the beginning, God created Man. And Man, being a gentleman, returned the
213 favor.
214 ****************************************
215
216 OK, then, a revised comment:
217 Thank God (if you exist and will just stop making wars, that is if it is
218 you making them and not those that worship you) for the Native Americans
219 and the Afro Americans and those that died in wars and all those dead and
220 crippled men and bigots (with or without Bibles) that have made America
221 so great!!!!!
222 Oh, by the way, what do you do when you punish someone for a crime in a
223 totally irreversable way (such as cutting off their hand)?
224 Why, you say "Gee, fella, sorry about that! Let me shake your stub!"
225
226 ************Captain America*************
227
228 DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~
229
230 Captain America: I would certainly like to know what you think is so
231 "great" about USA (I presume thats what you are referring to as "America").
232 Could it be the anemic economy? Or maybe its the corrupt government
233 or the practice of military expansionism. How about the freedom of
234 religion (as long as its Christianity).
235 How about the astronomical crime rate or the prevalence of bigotry.
236 Yes, we certainly have much to be thankful for; and CYM is right; we owe
237 all of the above to God and Christianity.
238 Although I do not contest many of the moral values professed by Christianity,
239 It has never been my "pleasure" to meet a Christian who has gone beyond
240 professing and has actually practiced these values. Perhaps the greatest
241 attraction to Christianity for most, is the belief (or pretence) that
242 immoral (sinful in Christianese) behavior is readily forgiven by God
243 through prayer. This affords them the ability to commit any transgression
244 they desire and still have the opportunity to be forgiven (in God's
245 eyes) and thereby released from guilt.
246 Though I have many thoughts to relate on this subject, I am becoming increas-
247 ingly aware that my present semiconcious state is somewhat inadequate
248 for the formulation of a logical (and grammatical) argument, so......
249 To be continued when I'm fully awake.
250
251 Dirty Ol' Man
252
253 DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~
254 Altho I have several translations of the Bible, and have studied all
255 of them extensively, I will not pretend to be able to interpret it
256 fully, and anyone who professes to know what Revelations is all about
257 is either lying of crazy. I will say, though, that religion is rarely
258 a cause of war; many other reasons exist & since most differing factions
259 have a different brand of religion it is a convenient label for them.
260 If economicss and the desire for power aren't enough, the desire for
261 freedom is. The wars of the recent past haven't even referred to it.
262 Hitler didn't make war on the Jews (who were a race, not a religion to
263 him), he tried to exterminate them, as he did to the rare blacks in the
264 country (and all non "Aryans"). Most religions profess a desire for peace,
265 unfortunately the humans who must carry out this desire have the same
266 failings as the rest of us & don't know how to make peace.
267 I see a suggestion that making drugs (of all kinds) freely available
268 would eventually reduce the problem. No way. The misuse of antibiotics
269 (and overuse) has already hurt all of us, by reducing there value. Even
270 if it only hurt the abuser, it would not help because evolution is slow,
271 and killing a few off could only affect evolution if these few were the
272 only ones who carried a gene that caused them to misuse the stuff, and
273 none of the rest of us did. This is very unlikely. Next if it is freely
274 available to "adults", how do you keep it from the children? Of course
275 you might want to poison these, as they will die more easily. The abuse
276 of mind affecting drugs already is the major cause of traffic fatalities,
277 and these aren't just the drivers being killed. But then killing
278 everybody off would eliminate drug abuse.
279
280 May I ask a few questions about religion?
281 1. which Bible do you read, and why?
282 2. who decided this version is Truth, and no other is
283 3. have you read the "one true book" of any other religion?
284 4. who wrote it?
285 5. has it remained pure to the original?
286
287 If you say "It doesn't matter, God speaks to me through it, why do you
288 read an English version at all? I have a Hebrew version, and it doesn't
289 say anything to me at all, nor does the Vulgate.
290 Yes, Religion is a good subject, it can keep us calling each other dirty
291 names for ever. Before you start accusing religion of starting wars, may
292 I ask you to suggest a way to end wars?
293 /////////////////////////////////////BAD\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
294 Thank you, I think, for the smile, d. Dave
295 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
296 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 24 Sep 83 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
297 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 12:12 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
298 Ah, even in the wee hours of the morn the controversy has begun
299 to rage! May I offer a cheerful good morning to all my antagonists,
300 (and I'll have you know that I was stranded at work last night because
301 of paying no mind to the stealthy hands of the clock)...Whew! Many are
302 the issues to confront, and I hope that I will be around to witness the
303 ripple of outrage and surprise spread through the Inn!
304 Well, DOM, I've finally spoken thoughts outrageous enough to
305 merit your attention, eh? Your observation about why many seek out
306 'Christianity'--because they think they can do anything as long as
307 they go through the ritual of 'prayer' and be forgiven--is a commonly-
308 held misconception about God's attitude.
It is true that Jehovah is
309 "a God merciful and gracious, slow to anger and abundant in loving-
310 kindness and truth, preserving loving-kindness for thousands, pardoning
311 error and transgression and sin," yet those 'Christians' you speak of
312 overlook the second half of Exodus 34:6,7 "but by no means will he
313 give exemption from punishment."
I recall that you men were debating
314 about who was qualified to judge their fellow in the matter of crime-
315 not-yet-done; who better than one capable of discerning ALL motives?
316 The Bible describes the heart as being the "seat of motivation" and
317 the examiner as: "I, Jehovah, am searching the heart, examining the
318 kidneys, even to give to each one according to his ways, according to
319 the fruitage of his dealings." (Jeremiah 17:10)
Even Jesus himself
320 in his famous Sermon on the Mount (found in Matthew 7:21-23) warned
321 against those who pose as serving him: "Not everyone saying to me,
322 'Lord, Lord' will enter into the kingdom of the heavens, but the one
323 doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will. Many will
324 say to me in that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name,
325 and expel demons in your name, and perform many powerful works in
326 your name?' And yet then I will confess to them: I never knew you!
327 Get away from me, you workers of lawlessness."
328
BAD, God does not 'speak to me', nor am I presuming to interpret
329 Revelations--or any of the Bible--myself. Matthew 11:25 and the first
330 letter of the Corinthians 2:10 may be eye-openers regarding where the
331 understanding of the scriptures comes from. Nonetheless, a prophet is
332 proved by his prophecy (whether it comes true or not)...
As for your
333 questions, any translation is still God's word, and a comparison of
334 any of the literally-translated Bibles will show the parallel of the
335 ideas. (The paraphrased ones can be misleading sometimes because of
336 the inherent bias of the person who interprets according to his own
337 beliefs, not staying strictly to the original Hebrew & Greek text.)
338
The other questions require extensive proof to back my replies, which
339 I will supply in time, but I'm distracted by your last question, for
340 it is the most pertinent to the threads of conversation that have been
341 winding through the Backwater Inn: how can all wars be stopped?
342
As has been pointed out, wars have a wide variety of causes:
343 whether economic, territorial, struggle for power, or religious, they
344 basicly stem from attitudes of self-exhaltation and rivalry. (Thats a
345 generalization, I know; but identifying the cause of war is essential
346 to removing it.)
Some idealistically say, 'why, if everyone just
347 changed their attitudes, there wouldn't be any more wars!' Sure,
348 thats an important step, but not everyone WILL change their attitudes;
349 you realists among the crowd realize that. More is needed; perhaps
350 a central world government whose authority all recognize and obey?
351
Yet, who is qualified to rule the entire earth in justice?--
352 certainly no government today! Though not pointed out by the
353 churches, the Bible DOES contain the answer. BAD, you've studied
354 the Bible quite a bit; have you discovered the Bible's theme?
355 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> d <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
356 One day several of the killer tomatoe street gang went out for a walk.
357 Cows moo for the big Babo.
358 I like food and food likes me.
359
360 ############################################################################
361
362 WHATS ALL THIS CRAP ABOUT: THE BIBLE IS JUST ANOTHER BOOK OF FICTION.
363 THE PERSON ABOVE QUOTING FROM HIS VERSION JUST PROVES THAT THIER THOUGHTS
364 ARE CONTROLLED BY A MYTH AND THEY CANNOT THINK FOR THEMSELVES WITHOUT QUOTIN
365 FROM THE LONGEST RUNNING SOAP/OPERA ON RECORD.
366
367 ##################C.Y.M.####################################################
368 Thank God I am still an Atheist.
369 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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371 Aaron:
372 Some time ago on PMS, you gave me a quick tutorial on how to use this
373 system. Perhaps you could do so again on the Backwater. I'm having
374 a heck of a time getting on, and I think some people just don't know
375 how to use this system quickly and efficiently. Thanks
376 Michael
377 *^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*
378 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
379 this is all availiable under "HELP", also......
380
381 positioning commands..........
382
383 LN 24 moves you to the first line after system messages...
384 BO moves you to LAST LINE ENTERED on system....
385 UP moves you ONE line UP
386 DO moves you ONE line DOWN
387 DA or DB moves you onto the old disk (B) or the current (A)
388 HERE DISPLAYS current line you are at
389 note: UP and DO may be generalized to the form of
390 CO xxx
391
392 where CO is eithier "UP" or "DO" and xxx is the number of lines
393 to go UP or DOWN......xxx,if left out, defaults to 1
394
395 LN xxx
396
397 will move you to the XXXth line of the system...line 24 is the
398 first AVAILIABLE line (it is the first line after system messages)
399 text viewing commands.........
400
401 LIST dumps WHOLE disk to you...
402 PRINT dumps all text AFTER the line YOU ARE CURRENTLY ON
403 PR xx same as "PRINT", but only dumps xx lines...
404 note that both "control-c" and "BREAK" will stop text output,
405 and leave you positioned at THE LINE YOU INTERRUPTED AT
406
407 while "control-s" will temporarily pause the system output, to
408 resume listing text, strike any key.....
409
410 text entering/editing..........
411
412 ENTER places system in "ENTER" mode,ALL text typed will
413 appear on the system including "OFF" "HELP" "EXIT"
414 "BYE" or other things we see to offen....to exit
415 enter mode gracefully (leaving no garbage); advance
416 the system ONE (1) line by hitting "RETURN" key,
417 and then send a "control-C" (note that in "ENTER"
418 mode a "control-C" will DELETE your current line,
419 and return you to "COMMAND" mode....hence the
420 "RETURN" BEFORE the "control-C")
421
422 MA 76 enter this command in "COMMAND" mode ("COMMAND"
423 mode can be distingushed from "ENTER" mode by
424 the prompt of ">" at the beginning of a line)
425 TO ENSURE COMPATIBILITY WITH ALL TERMAINAL USERS!!
426
427 why 76?? many terminals do not support text beyond
428 column 80; any text left there is truncated to the
429 80 th column.......why use "MA 76" and not "MA 80"?
430 in the "NU Y" mode the system uses columns 1-4 for
431 LINE NUMBERS...."76" enables users to read text in
432 this mode,also....
433
434 REPLACE system will print line YOU ARE AT; query if you
435 really wnat to; and the proceed to place you in
436 "ENTER" mode for ONE LINE...line entered will
437 replace old line.............
438
439 CH /old text/new text/
440
441 a "character substitution" editor......
442
443 example:
444
445 you entered:
446 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
447 How I love thee ;
448 let me count your fingers,
449 i can not live without you...
450
451
452 first thing to do is to position youself at the line WITH THE ERROR!
453 (in this case "let me count your fingers")
454 sooo.....
455
456 >UP 1
457 let me count your fingers, << system prints the line you are at>>
458
459 >ch /your fingers,/the ways../
460 let me count the ways.. << system prints CORRECTED line >>
461 >up 2
462 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ << system moves up 2 lines,prints line at >>
463 >PRI << print rest >>
464 How I love thee ;
465 let me count the ways..
466 i can not live without you...
467 > << text looks OK, and system prompts for
468 another command, note that both PRINT
469 and PR xx leave you AT the last line
470 printed >>
471
472
473 HINTS/MISC.........
474
475 NU Y and NU N
476
477 NU Y will cause system to number all lines
478 PRINTED with their POSITION on the disk (1-629)
479
480 NU N will suppress this output....note that
481 NUmbering does not affect message entry....
482
483 if, prior to leaving the system you do this:
484
485 >NU Y
486
487 >BOTTOM << BO will suffice...>>
488
489 206 and I think you guys have slug #$%# in your ears.......
490
491 when you get back onto the system type:
492
493 >LN 206 << moves you to place you left off (save # from last time!)
494
495 and I think you guys have slug #$%# in your ears.....
496
497 >PRINT << will print REST of text >>
498 blah...
499 dlah...
500 more blah (unless d has been on)
501
502 > << system prompts for new COMMAND >>
503
504 note: most COMMANDS can be abbreviated to 2 letters..eg.REPLACE
505 becomes RE,PRINT becomes PRI (yes! thats 3! ),BOTTOM = BO,etc....
506 did i forget anything?????
507 Aaron
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509 yes, i know i didn't mention crufty things like FA,FI,XT etc..
510 but i didnt think they were "necessary".........
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512 Well I would still look over my shoulder!!!!!
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514 To: Sysop
515 From: BACH
516
517 Thank you for the explanation of the text editing procedures for this
518 system. I, too, have had some trouble.
519 Keep up the good work!
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521 "The Babel fish," said the The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, "is small,
522 yellow and leechlike, and probably the oddest thing in the universe. It feeds
523 on brainwave energy received not from its own carrier but from those around it.
524 It absorbs all unconscious mental frequencies from this brainwave energy to
525 nourish itself with. It then excretes into the mind of its carrier a telepathic
526 matrix formed by combining the conscious thought frequencies with nerve signals
527 picked up from the speech centers of the brain which has supplied them. The
528 practical upshot of all this is that if you stick a Babel fish in your ear you
529 can instantly understand anything said to you in any form of language. The
530 speech patterns you actually hear decode the brainwave matrix which has been fed
531 into your mind by your Babel fish."
532 "Now it is such a bizarrely improbable coincidence that anything so mind-
533 bogglingly useful could have evolved purely by chance that some thinkers have
534 chosen to see it as a final and clinching proof of the NON-existance of God.
535 "The argument goes something like this: 'I refuse to prove that I exist,'
536 says God, 'for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing.'
537 " 'But,' says Man, 'the Babel fish is a dead giveaway, isn't it? It
538 could not have evolved by chance. It proves you exist, and so therefore, by
539 your own argument, you don't. QED'
540 " 'Oh dear,' says God, 'I hadn't thought of that,' and promptly vanishes in
541 a puff of logic.
542 " 'Oh, that as easy,' says Man, and for an encore goes on to prove that black
543 is white and gets himself killed on the next pedestrian crossing.
544 "Most leading theologians claim that this argument is a load of dingo's
545 kidneys, but that didn't stop Oolon Colluphid making a small fortune when he
546 used it as the central theme of his best-selling book, Well That about Wraps
547 It Up for God.
548 "Meanwhile, the poor Babel fish, by effectively removing all barriers to
549 communications between different races and cultures, has caused more and
550 bloodier wars than anything else in the history of creation."
551 **************************************************** P. V. Jeltz **************
552
553 DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~
554
555 CYM: It has rarely been my pleasure to meet persons with ideas regarding
556 religion so closely parelleling my own. Throughout history there have
557 been authors of ficticious material whose intent is to entertain or to
558 misinform the public. Added to these are the philosophical writers whose
559 works are largely, if not wholly, of a speculative nature. Why have Christians
560 chosen to accept this collection of unsbstantiated works as fact, especially
561 consid***** pause the system output, to
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hipping the
563 Wizard of OZ.
564
565 d: Aside from a multitude of quotations from your story book, do you have
566 any other "evidence" that my explanation for Christian disregard for
567 morality is, in fact, a misconception? During my childhood, I was, for seven
568 years a reluctant church-goer. Though I have never been a Christian, I am
569 very familiar with that which Christians profess, that which they practice
570 and the lack of correspondance between these. If my idea is misconcieved,
571 how do you account for the discrepancy? Upon presenting this question
572 to Christians on previous occaissions, the reply was that weakness is the
573 nature of Man and "sin" (rough translation: moral transgression)
574 inherant and inevitable in all men (persons); and redemption may be
575 realized only through repentance. If so, I'm afraid myself and a substantial
576 number of non-Christians I am familiar with have been excluded from the Human
577 race. I maintain, therefore, that weakness is the nature of Christians
578 and that "sin" is inevitable only for those who fear not retribution nor
579 remorse for their transgressions.
580
581 This is substantiated by my observation that the most vocal proponents
582 of Christianity often relate a story of their quite amoral past. Most of
583 these persons claim (probably truthfully) to have been at one time
584 theives, rapists, murderers or whatever. This indicates to me that moral
585 weakness is engraved into their character and that they now find comfort
586 in their newfound "licence" to remain weak.
587 As for the belief in a supreme intellegence, this is easily explainable
588 by analogy. Recall your childhood. While riding in a car at night, did
589 you not look out the window and believe you saw the stars moving?
590 Although the visual sensation of motion is actually due to the viewers
591 motion, it is most often attributed by children to that of the stars themselves.
592 If you attribute intellegence to god perhaps you are merely viewing the
593 universe through the eyes of your own "intellegence."
594
595 More (much more) Later,
596 Dirty Ol' Man
597
598 DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~
599
600 LEONARD: Sorry, there is no objective evidence in the medical literature
601 that Depo-Provera is effective in the application you suggest. The
602 issue is now being hotly debated in committee down Salem-way. Let us
603 hope reason, and empiricism, prevail.
604
605 ALL: Atheism is never having to say you're Lutheran.
606
607 ` Dr. Dick
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609 If God created the universe, who created God? Please don't give me that same
610 old story that he always has been and always will be, since we can use that
611 same argument about anything else, such as the universe itself. Thus if the
612 universe has always existed, and always will there is no need for a God to
613 create it is there? &&&&&&&&&&&&& Watermark &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&
614 ***********************************************************************
615 About the above message in regard to operating the system.
616 While I would like to indeed claim that I provided it, I must remind
617 you that it was Aaron who did so, and I think that it was very well
618 written at that. In fact I will probably be keeping it around for
619 later reprinting upon need. Thanks Aaron, it was an excelent tutorial.
620 ******** CISTOP MIKEY ********* 25 SEPT 83 ************************