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[2020-10-31T02:55:56.020Z] <acdw> oh no
[2020-10-31T02:56:03.948Z] <acdw> that's deep magic :p
[2020-10-31T02:57:35.863Z] <khuxkm> alright, apparently I've managed to now sidestep that issue into another issue entirely
[2020-10-31T02:57:49.113Z] <acdw> oh no
[2020-10-31T02:57:53.381Z] <acdw> what's up now?
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[2020-10-31T02:58:39.357Z] <khuxkm> apparently my header breaks spec
[2020-10-31T02:59:34.437Z] <khuxkm> ...and now that I've added code to debug why my header apparently breaks spec the first bug is back
[2020-10-31T03:00:13.286Z] <acdw> uh oh! what's the header?
[2020-10-31T03:00:50.087Z] <khuxkm> `20 text/markdown\r\n`
[2020-10-31T03:00:57.054Z] <khuxkm> or at least that's what it *should* send
[2020-10-31T03:03:44.604Z] <khuxkm> ...apparently it's sending... nothing?
[2020-10-31T03:06:04.435Z] <khuxkm> there we go
[2020-10-31T03:06:10.787Z] <khuxkm> forgot to flush the write buffer
[2020-10-31T03:06:48.875Z] <acdw> oh ah ! good
[2020-10-31T03:06:51.319Z] <acdw> glad you got it
[2020-10-31T03:12:17.198Z] <makeworld> > oh that's kind of neat -- why http/2 only?
[2020-10-31T03:12:43.824Z] <makeworld> acdw: I didn't mean only. I just learned about HTTP/2 a bit ago and think it's cool
[2020-10-31T03:13:02.468Z] <acdw> oh okay cool :)
[2020-10-31T03:13:06.706Z] <zephryn> what do you think of http/3?
[2020-10-31T03:13:19.450Z] <acdw> i was looking at httpx and like, Why would this only work on http/2?
[2020-10-31T03:13:28.059Z] <acdw> hell why not http/4 or /5 :P
[2020-10-31T03:14:15.685Z] <zephryn> introducing: http/6
[2020-10-31T03:14:52.957Z] <khuxkm> http/10
[2020-10-31T03:14:59.446Z] <khuxkm> because fuck https 3-9
[2020-10-31T03:16:58.072Z] <acdw> yes!
[2020-10-31T03:17:03.792Z] <acdw> like 6G internet
[2020-10-31T03:17:22.095Z] <zephryn> the version numbers never end, do they...
[2020-10-31T03:17:56.551Z] <acdw> nope :P
[2020-10-31T03:18:01.764Z] <acdw> wish they would, tbh
[2020-10-31T03:20:26.373Z] <jcowan> acdw: It's a POST protocol.   Client sends an entity-body to the server and gets either an entity body or an URL that points to it in return.
[2020-10-31T03:20:55.397Z] <acdw> jcowan: dioscuri?
[2020-10-31T03:21:07.359Z] <acdw> yes
[2020-10-31T03:21:10.095Z] <acdw> sorry been a minute
[2020-10-31T03:21:19.549Z] <acdw> i kinda like how simple thta is
[2020-10-31T03:22:01.121Z] <khuxkm> anyone on tilde.team with a browser that isn't AV-98 want to help me with a test
[2020-10-31T03:22:11.226Z] <makeworld> zephryn: HTTP/3 seems like a large change for a tiny occasional speed increase. But I want to see proper testing in simulated bad networks, like with x% package loss
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[2020-10-31T03:26:10.509Z] <acdw> khu
[2020-10-31T03:26:15.326Z] <acdw> khuxkm: give me a second and sure
[2020-10-31T03:26:42.701Z] <acdw> you need me to sign on to tilde.team?
[2020-10-31T03:26:46.488Z] <acdw> or use it from my computer?
[2020-10-31T03:30:13.617Z] <khuxkm> acdw: sign into tilde.team and try to access gemini://7f000001.nip.io:65534
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[2020-10-31T03:30:18.726Z] <khuxkm> thanks in advance
[2020-10-31T03:30:30.046Z] <khuxkm> you should get back a markdown document just containing `# sup`
[2020-10-31T03:30:41.306Z] <Seirdy> anybody try gemini over i2p?
[2020-10-31T03:31:23.249Z] <Seirdy> given that gemini pages tend to be small and don't demand a high-speed connection, it seems like i2p would be a good fit.
[2020-10-31T03:31:41.787Z] <acdw> idk what i2p is
[2020-10-31T03:32:24.332Z] <jcowan> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I2P
[2020-10-31T03:32:31.030Z] <Seirdy> acdw: it's like tor but every user is a relay, and there are no clearnet exit nodes. it supports any protocol, not just HTTP; p2p/torrenting is a common use-case
[2020-10-31T03:32:32.522Z] <jcowan> it's a peer-to-peer protocol
[2020-10-31T03:33:10.572Z] <acdw> khuxkm: i get a sup
[2020-10-31T03:33:15.436Z] <acdw> in bollux
[2020-10-31T03:33:28.687Z] <acdw> oh that sounds wild Seirdy
[2020-10-31T03:33:39.747Z] <Seirdy> gemini eepsites (i2p equiv of onions) sound like a really good idea
[2020-10-31T03:33:42.171Z] <acdw> sounds really cool, i bet you could do i2p yeah
[2020-10-31T03:33:51.947Z] <khuxkm> acdw: nice
[2020-10-31T03:34:04.265Z] <acdw> what's that host khuxkm?
[2020-10-31T03:36:42.282Z] <makeworld> I2P is cool
[2020-10-31T03:36:48.465Z] <makeworld> Never tried with Gemini though
[2020-10-31T03:36:49.340Z] <khuxkm> *.nip.io basically is A record to any IP
[2020-10-31T03:36:56.136Z] <khuxkm> https://nip.io
[2020-10-31T03:37:02.775Z] <acdw> what
[2020-10-31T03:37:04.902Z] <acdw> that's cool
[2020-10-31T03:37:11.861Z] <acdw> why not just 127.0.0.1 or whatev?
[2020-10-31T03:37:38.586Z] <khuxkm> because I felt like using a domain
[2020-10-31T03:37:57.039Z] <khuxkm> also because apparently Python 3.8's ssl lib can't handle IP entries in the SAN
[2020-10-31T03:38:05.632Z] <acdw> fair enough :)
[2020-10-31T03:38:08.424Z] <acdw> oh right
[2020-10-31T03:38:21.731Z] <khuxkm> also this is BS, I can't even sign up for an account on bugs.python.org to file the bug
[2020-10-31T03:38:38.628Z] <acdw> oh shit huh
[2020-10-31T03:38:43.004Z] <acdw> whaaaaaa
[2020-10-31T03:38:46.059Z] <acdw> python--
[2020-10-31T03:38:48.859Z] <Seirdy> 13m4a8i9l11i12n13g4 8l9i11s12t13s
[2020-10-31T03:38:50.257Z] <acdw> :P
[2020-10-31T03:38:59.216Z] <Seirdy> imagine having to sign up for an account to file a bug
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[2020-10-31T03:39:08.611Z] <zephryn> github moment
[2020-10-31T03:39:23.344Z] <acdw> haha
[2020-10-31T03:39:49.823Z] <khuxkm> I tried to sign in with my GitHub but it went "i couldn't get your email from your profile" even though I don't have my profile set to hide my email
[2020-10-31T03:40:01.782Z] <acdw> :(
[2020-10-31T03:40:03.970Z] <acdw> ooof
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[2020-10-31T03:46:26.812Z] <khuxkm> actually rereading the AV98 source it's cheating and I need to bug solderpunk about the hacky shit it's doing
[2020-10-31T03:52:10.108Z] <praetorian> Is gemini://gus.guru/ the best place to browse gemini hosts? Seems like the newest sites are from the end of September.
[2020-10-31T03:57:36.338Z] <epoch> > it supports any protocol, not just HTTP;
[2020-10-31T03:57:57.715Z] <epoch> tor does any tcp protocol
[2020-10-31T04:10:14.757Z] <khuxkm> https://tildegit.org/solderpunk/AV-98/issues/28 anyways I filed a bug report with AV-98
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[2020-10-31T04:35:12.680Z] <makeworld> praetorian: Pretty much yeah. GUS is currently updating, it hasn't in a while 
[2020-10-31T04:35:40.088Z] <makeworld> Nat should make a cron job for it tbh
[2020-10-31T04:35:51.887Z] <makeworld> K gn y'all 
[2020-10-31T04:36:01.093Z] <praetorian> Ah, I see. Thanks
[2020-10-31T04:36:32.143Z] <khuxkm> I'm wondering how I should handle CGI in Big Tiddy Gemini Server
[2020-10-31T04:36:41.730Z] <khuxkm> should I just let anything be +x and run it based on shebang?
[2020-10-31T04:36:49.209Z] <khuxkm> or is that bad practice