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Previous article from the FBI director on this subject[1].
Basically "Operation Fox Hunt" is China saying to people overseas who say things China doesn't like, "Come to China to be jailed, or commit suicide. If you don't, your family will suffer in your place."
Threatening family members is very not-good. China just doesn't have the same kind of ethical system as Western nations, they hold the collective above the individual, and they expect everyone to know their place. So it makes perfect sense from a Chinese perspective for criticizing the government to be regarded as especially despicable (you don't know your place), and to hold one member of a family responsible for another's conduct (the collective is above the individual). But from a Western perspective, it's a special kind of evil for a government to threaten its critics' innocent family members.
I hope these Chinese agents are prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
I hope Washington sends China a bill for the costs of investigating, prosecuting, and jailing their agents. And if China refuses to pay, China has lots of US Treasury securities; interest and principal payments to those Treasuries could presumably be seized before leaving the US banking system.
I hope Justice Department lawyers are assigned to help victims file multi-million dollar civil cases against China for infliction of emotional distress. Medical bills and disability compensation if injured; wrongful death if their relative was killed.
And while we're billing China for the costs imposed by its actions, let's throw in a lifetime security detail to protect the victims from future harrassment by China's next batch of agents.
The only thing that surprises me is that they restrained themselves to mere stalking and verbal threats.
If the ethics of China's decision makers are so twisted that threatening family members is okay, it seems like they're pretty twisted, and only a little more twisting will get them to the point where they declare uncooperative targets ought to be receiving mailed packages of their loved ones' fingers and toes, escalating to eyeballs and other body parts that are increasingly unpleasant to lose.
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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-china-wray/fbi-chief-...
> they hold the collective above the individual
What you described was accurate pre-WW2.
It looks like this now:
Dragon Families > PRC (communism) > religion > collective > individual
The PRC has inserted themselves as god, above any religion.
Most of the Chinese culture you implied was wiped out in the Mao era, and can only be seen in its original form in Taiwan. That is part of the reason the CCP must invade Taiwan.
If you want to learn more about what the CCP is up to today, watch the NTD/Epoch Times Youtube channels. The Biden scandal is part of the CCP's "elite capture" intelligence operations against notable foreigners.
China has been in an undeclared war with the USA for about 40 years. The corona pandemic simply lifted the scales from our eyes. Mao: "hide our strength, bide our time."
The allegations _if_ true are frightening. If convicted these people are facing only 5 years in jail.
In September 2018, Zheng Congying and another unidentified co-conspirator allegedly affixed a threatening note to the door of the John Doe-1’s residence stating, “If you are willing to go back to mainland and spend 10 years in prison, your wife and children will be all right. That’s the end of this matter!” Between February 2019 and April 2019, other co-conspirators caused unsolicited packages to be sent to John Doe-1’s residence. These packages contained letters and a video with messages intended to coerce John Doe-1’s return to the PRC by threatening harm to family members still residing in the PRC.
The defendants, allegedly acting at the direction and under the control of PRC government officials, conducted surveillance of and engaged in a campaign to harass, stalk and coerce certain residents of the United States to return to the PRC as part of a global, concerted and extralegal repatriation effort known as “Operation Fox Hunt.”
Well this is certainly timely.
"Timely" is the key word when observing the battle between China and the USA.
China announced sanctions on Boeing's defense arm (among other companies) about a day before Boeing reported earnings.
https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2020/10/26/china-to-sancti...
Either there is a great amount of double-dealing going on behind the scenes, or both sides care more about optics than actually emerging victorious over their adversary.
In what sense? Because of the election?
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https://thenationalpulse.com/exclusive/biden-recording-spy-c...
What's clear and unbiased journalism!
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https://thenationalpulse.com/exclusive/biden-recording-spy-c
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This as with every other piece of information that goes against the narrative of Biden being pure will be shutdown.
The reality of it is, China has a deep hold on businesses and people with the US and will continue to exert their power overtly. The amount of businesses with non substantial ownership and investment by China is crazy. China is not our friend, they are a relationship of necessity, which is how they view us.
Fortunately some companies and countries recognize this and are slowly adapting to it.
this site is also considered a "questionable source" with "extreme" right wing bias
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-national-pulse/
As with anything else, use your intuition, read between the lines, follow the incentives/money.
Based on the rating they give it does seem like a questionable source.
But if you want to go down that rabbit hole of who is or who isn't a questionable source based on some fact-checker you will eventually reach the question, how do we know that our fact-checker isn't biased? who funds the fact-checker, are there any political motivations over-ruling journalistic integrity, etc. And then eventually you arrive at a fact-checker that fact-checks other fact-checkers. And you can keep going down that rabbit hole forever or you can learn to use your intuition.
I will also say this:
Even a broken clock is right twice per day.
And in the same vein,
Even a questionable source can write an article based on facts every now and then.
Who watches the watchmen?
Also they can get the Story from Fox News and Tucker Carlson, except the response will be the same. Unless the story comes from a publisher that aligns with their ideals, they won't trust it. Given the story is negative against someone they're throwing support for, they have 0 incentive to share the news. The media isn't about truth in story, it's about truth in political position.