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Brian Evans b__m__e at mailfence.com
Thu May 14 18:06:19 BST 2020
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ``` > Just recently joined your email list after lurking for a while Welcome! Glad to have you here (keep that in mind as I disagree with you below). > Is there a simple and gemini-friendly way for us to (optionally!) convey > this sense of place. At present I think Konpeito Media (gemini://konpeito.media) is a great example of providing what you are talking about. They offer color, as well as a non-color mode. Many gemini capsules also use figlet fonts or other forms of ascii and unicodeart. My feeling is that gemini inherits more from gopher than from the web. Including a lot of the culture that has surrounded it in its early days.That doesnt mean that things need to stay that way, though I admit my preference is to avoid styling almost entirely. Styling, to me, misses thepoint: that the content is the important thing. > browsing gemini-space is a very homogenous experience I think I disagree with this. I think coming from the web, yes that may be true. But users that have been using gopher have had themental shift to interacting with this sort of content for quite some time and the subtle differences in how text is arranged can havea big impact and really create a style and flavor for each capsule. It just takes a little distance from the maximalism that is the web.People that drink a 2-litre of cola each day are used to sweet and think that a sparkling water with a bit of lime has no flavor. But ifyou stop drinking soda for awhile your taste starts to return to a more normal realm. I think this is true of gemini and gopher as wellwhen contrasted with the web. As you likely read in the discussions surrounding bullets, there is definitely nothing stopping servers and clients from serving up and rendering html or markdown and having the styling that comes with those. I cannot speak for everyone, but my feeling is that thetext/gemini format is intended to be very simple and to allow consistent display across devices (many of which do not support coloror font size changes). I would definitely be interested to see if we can find some ways of achieving what you are talking about by creating a culture and community that finds creative ways to use text to really give gemini a feel of its own. While I cited Konpeito above, I know thatthe escape sequence thing is a fun hack, but that graphical clients will have trouble. I do think we should be providing alt text to ascii art blocks, maybe like so:
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Anyway, sorry for the opinionated ramble. Really: truly glad to have your voice in the discussion (as well as all of the other recentnew folks to this mailing list and to gemini in general).--Â Sent with https://mailfence.comSecure and private email