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[2020-09-23T16:46:45.550Z] <rb100> is that what it was doing?  i forget now... some process in the setup crashed on a 1gb rpi
[2020-09-23T16:47:36.074Z] <rb100> it was on this rpi, but i blew it away after i was done, apparently...
[2020-09-23T16:54:44.838Z] <felix> Hence my question. ;)
[2020-09-23T16:54:51.302Z] <felix> oms: I know, right?
[2020-09-23T16:55:20.350Z] <felix> And to think people make increasingly clever JS interpreters when the main performance bottleneck is crap like that.
[2020-09-23T16:55:49.342Z] <felix> Running megabytes of it that does way too much on an already overburdened platform.
[2020-09-23T16:56:28.792Z] <ericonr> rb100: could be minifying the JS
[2020-09-23T16:56:32.766Z] <ericonr> that can get complicated
[2020-09-23T16:57:21.646Z] <rb100> i doubt it since it's the server-side js that's the problem. why minify that?
[2020-09-23T16:59:14.570Z] <ericonr> :) no idea
[2020-09-23T17:00:09.340Z] <felix> Maybe it's written in TypeScript, or Coffeescript, or something.
[2020-09-23T17:00:25.716Z] <felix> Either way, yuck.
[2020-09-23T17:00:59.360Z] <rb100> it was during one of the "bundle install" or "yarn install" steps, i forget which
[2020-09-23T17:01:08.492Z] <felix> And to think the creator of Duktape says the interpreter is slow.
[2020-09-23T17:01:55.178Z] <felix> It runs JS as if it was native code. You know that feeling?
[2020-09-23T17:02:43.875Z] <felix> You can usually tell. Interpreted code is sluggish. Makes sense, right?
[2020-09-23T17:04:19.778Z] <felix> Apparently, a lot of that is incidental overhead.
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[2020-09-23T17:16:54.163Z] <admicos> it happens after yarn install when running precompile
[2020-09-23T17:17:05.228Z] <admicos> it's react so it has to parse and compile all the jsx stuff
[2020-09-23T17:17:06.855Z] <ffuentes> hi
[2020-09-23T17:17:10.288Z] <admicos> \o
[2020-09-23T17:17:49.216Z] <admicos> i have to use NODE_OPTIONS="--max-old-space-size=2048" for masto to use swap when doing it otherwise it just goes oom
[2020-09-23T17:17:57.105Z] <ffuentes> do you have or know a gemini client that's available for Windows and that's already built (not for compiling)?
[2020-09-23T17:18:55.803Z] <felix> Geminaut?
[2020-09-23T17:19:18.123Z] <felix> Kristall?
[2020-09-23T17:19:40.738Z] <felix> https://kristall.random-projects.net/
[2020-09-23T17:20:47.105Z] <ffuentes> Geminaut triggers Windows Defender bad
[2020-09-23T17:21:35.937Z] <ffuentes> I'm gonna try Kristall
[2020-09-23T17:23:19.139Z] <ffuentes> Thanks Felix. It worked! 
[2020-09-23T17:23:34.214Z] <ffuentes> it triggered Defender but at least it didn't delete the .exe like the other one
[2020-09-23T17:29:44.893Z] <felix> Yay.
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[2020-09-23T18:28:43.552Z] <lukee> o/ space-cadets
[2020-09-23T18:33:40.848Z] <lukee> hi ffuentes: currently there is no installer for GemiNaut and the binaries are unsigned. I think that is what is upsetting the anti-virus products. Needless to say it is a false positive. 
[2020-09-23T18:34:06.996Z] <lukee> next version of GemiNaut has a proper installer and I am investigating options for signing the binaries as well.
[2020-09-23T18:37:07.438Z] <lukee> those both should help I think. In the mean time, you can either compile GemiNaut yourself or add to the anti-virus white list. Its pretty annoying TBH
[2020-09-23T18:40:26.730Z] <idf> i guess the combination of unsigned binary + networking to an unknown port triggers AVs
[2020-09-23T18:41:50.294Z] <lukee> and the wrong phase of the moon
[2020-09-23T18:43:24.786Z] <lukee> AV products have this annoying assumption that software apps that are not in mass-usage are by nature suspicious. They can trigger without even running the app. 
[2020-09-23T18:43:37.280Z] <idf> that too
[2020-09-23T18:45:15.234Z] <lukee> well I suppose the weird shit people try to install on their machines over the last 20 odd years must have honed this behaviour as the only way to protect "ordinary" end users
[2020-09-23T18:48:17.087Z] <idf> download this epic toolbar with 200 emoticons NOW RIGHT >>HERE DOWNLOAD<<
[2020-09-23T18:49:15.163Z] <lukee> This website has detected your drivers are not up to date: DOWNLOAD to perform a driver scan now!
[2020-09-23T18:49:59.557Z] <lukee> sigh
[2020-09-23T18:50:03.551Z] <xj9> meanwhile in finland
[2020-09-23T19:03:55.561Z] <ffuentes> I've installed stuff like that before but never got the executable deleted by Windows before 
[2020-09-23T19:10:31.738Z] <lukee> yes its pretty annoying when that happens
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[2020-09-23T23:53:18.425Z] <tsp> I wish GUS would show me the date each host was added. The latest 10 hosts means I have to keep checking every day or I'll miss one.
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[2020-09-24T05:41:54.281Z] <rmgr> That would be rad
[2020-09-24T06:24:30.429Z] <rmgr> Does anybody else find themselves using gemtext for non-gemini related things?
[2020-09-24T06:25:39.908Z] <rmgr> I have the vim syntax highlighting set up on my raspberry pi so I just have a folder for random notes and stuff now, I find the markup is just enough to provide structure but keeps out of the way