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Luke Emmet luke at marmaladefoo.com
Tue Aug 18 09:39:36 BST 2020
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Hi Andre
thanks for your reply
On 16-Aug-2020 18:24, Andre Garzia wrote:
I took a tour of Gemini Browsers and saw that your browser had REBOL
code in it and that made me smile. I used to work with REBOL in the
early 2000s and it is a language that is very dear to my heart. I
think that a Gemini browser using Red should be a fantastic project,
maybe I'll try that as well.
Yes REBOL/Red is very nice, but largely under-appreciated, and somewhat niche now I suppose.
A Red client would be cool - I think the TLS is WIP in Red, but apparently it is being developed. There is also a fork of REBOL which is being actively maintained and seems to include TLS. I've not investigated it much yet though.
https://github.com/Oldes/Rebol3
As for Firefox OS, that is a little flame in my heart that will never
be extinguished, I really liked it and still do. I think that a client
is possible but you won't be able to support all the status codes and
use cases as you won't be able to generate certificates (unless you
write a pure JS TLS implementation). I'm not sure which version of
OpenSSL KaiOS is linked against but you should be able to open a raw
TCP secure socket to port 1965 and read and write from it using
"mozTCPSocket":
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Archive/B2G_OS/API/TPC_Socket_API
Another thing that put a smile on me was the surprise I got when I was
researching to write the reply to you (it has been a while since I
last touched FirefoxOS code). If I remember correctly in 2013 I took
some time adding FirefoxOS samples to MDN and the sample linked to
that article is a Telnet client I wrote:
https://github.com/soapdog/firefoxos-sample-app-telnet-client
You should be able to pick that telnet client and just tweak it a
little to test it against a Gemini server. Be aware that KaiOS has a
different keyboard based navigation system and you'll need to check
their dev docs:
https://developer.kaiostech.com/
I don't have any KaiOS device but I am intrigued by it. Some months
ago I had a meeting with their DevRel to talk about the old days of
FirefoxOS and how community was handled and encouraged, it was a fun
meeting and I hope they are investing more in building a community now.
Thanks for these links - I shall add this to my todo list and investigate further. It would be interesting to see how far it can go. I think the client generated certificates is only a minor limitation, as the overwhelming majority of content in geminispace is freely accessible.
Best Wishes
- Luke