πŸ“£ Post by tante

2024-12-16

As part of my job I write a lot of grant applications.
The EU is just asking people in current EU projects for feedback on their (admittedly garbage, massively complex) process. Here's a screenshot from the questionaire:
The EU grant application process is a shit show demanding you to fill in all kinds of bullshit documents often at a level of specificity that nobody can really give in good conscience at the point of project application. But what would "AI tools" do?
Help generate the garbage text. Okay so who does this help?
- the applicants are handing in even more text they've hardly read nor understood potentially tanking their application
- the reviewers have to wade through a lot of text that nobody has written, that doesn't mean anything and that by definition does not help evaluating proposals.
The fucking brainrot runs so deep.
JUST FUCKING SIMPLIFY THE APPLICATION PROCESS AND FORMS FOR FUCKS SAKE.

tante

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2024-12-17 cgruenloh ┃ 1πŸ”—

@tante I reflected on this also a while back. Using AI will increase the volume because it will take less time to produce the BS forms. Too much to handle by human reviewers; which is why it […]

2024-12-16 alper

@tante "(admittedly garbage, massively complex)"
I did this once and we swore never to do it ever again. It's a lottery but worse.

2024-12-16 hamishcampbell ┃ 1πŸ”—

@tante yep it's a nasty mess, but some bits are a little functional'ish
hamishcampbell.com/?s=EU+fundi…

2024-12-16 tchauhan

@tante Oh my god this cannot be happening. What a huge idiotic step backwards. Seems almost surreal. Is this only grants or other official paperwork as well?

2024-12-16 yaqubpk

@tante my position also requires a lot of the same JD, I would agree that among all the EU grants management system is just confused in itself ...

2024-12-16 teirdes

@tante thank you for putting words to this frustration.

2024-12-16 civodul ┃ 1πŸ‘€

@tante That they propose to support garbage text generation is proof that even they consider the application process to be a circus with little relevance.
@khinsen

2024-12-16 profdc9

@tante You can't keep armies of people employed if you don't create paperwork. At some point that will be automated and you need new and creative ways for paperwork to involve bureaucracy so […]

2024-12-16 Sweetshark ┃ edited ┃ 1πŸ‘€

@tante Yes, defund the ... whatever this is and give those benjamins to @sovtechfund .

2024-12-16 ComPod

@tante butbutbutbut AI will magically make everything better!!?!

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