Ateklabs.139 net.games.rogue utzoo!decvax!duke!chico!teklabs!tekmdp!teklabs!charliep Sun Dec 6 02:29:49 1981 It can be done... Yes, it is possible to win the game with no extra fudges. However, in my case it took a lot of luck, including several magic items. I didn't find any scrolls of genocide, but I only encountered about 7 or 8 Umber Hulks before I got back to level 17. I killed those by polymorphing or drain life spells. No weird arrows, etc. By the way, I was armor class 9 until level 24! However, if I remember right, I started the game with strength 18. I'll report Teklabs scores when we get our main memory (and therefore permission to play games) returned. P.S. This was my 987,654th game.... Charlie Perkins ----------------------------------------------------------------- gopher://quux.org/ conversion by John Goerzen of http://communication.ucsd.edu/A-News/ This Usenet Oldnews Archive article may be copied and distributed freely, provided: 1. There is no money collected for the text(s) of the articles. 2. The following notice remains appended to each copy: The Usenet Oldnews Archive: Compilation Copyright (C) 1981, 1996 Bruce Jones, Henry Spencer, David Wiseman.