Aucbvax.5908 fa.space utcsrgv!utzoo!decvax!ucbvax!space Fri Jan 22 03:43:06 1982 SPACE Digest V2 #85 >From OTA@S1-A Fri Jan 22 03:22:33 1982 SPACE Digest Volume 2 : Issue 85 Today's Topics: Re: G. Harry Stine Harry Stine and Science Space Program Budget Re: News wires and stuff ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 21 Jan 1982 1058-CST From: Jonathan Slocum Subject: Re: G. Harry Stine To: POURNE at MIT-MC cc: SPACE at MIT-MC In-Reply-To: Your message of 21-Jan-82 0320-CST No, being a "humanist" does not (to me) imply a tragic condition, nor disbelief in technological solutions. It simply denies the position that ALL problems admit solution through technology. Even "technical" problems can require solutions tempered by the demands of human nature. It just seemed to me (from reading his books) that Stine is insufficuently aware of this. At least, he does not CONVEY such awareness in his writings. ------- ------------------------------ Date: 21 Jan 1982 1356-PST From: Alan R. Katz Subject: Harry Stine and Science To: dietz at USC-ECL cc: katz Remailed-date: 21 Jan 1982 1359-PST Remailed-from: Alan R. Katz Remailed-to: space at MIT-MC Right on! If I had had a subscription to Analog I would have cancelled it. However, you may have missed the excellent refutation of Stine's article that appeared a few months later. The danger I see, is that when people hear someone talk about space colonies and space industry, and then hear the same person talk about things they know has a high probability of being nonsense, they will tend not to believe any of what is said. Alan ------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue Jan 19 20:14:29 1982 To: Space at MIT-MC From: decvax!duke!chico!harpo!mhtsa!alice!sjb at Berkeley Subject: Space Program Budget Source-Info: From (or Sender) name not authenticated. Well, here is the first summary from the newswire I am posting. Consider it a test of how you like it (ARPAland) as well as being informative... The chairman of the House Subcommittee on Science and Technology said that the Reagan budget plans could threaten our space program. The 1983 fiscal budget calls for $6.5 billion for NASA (about what it is now) Not only could this hurt our planetary program, but also threaten the shuttle program. Orbiter 104 (the fourth shuttle) could be put in question as well as a proposed fifth shuttle. While the Reagan administration has expressed interest in a fifth shuttle, they have not offered any financing for it. As per the planetary program, the deep space network, which receives signals from unmanned probes, such as Voyager and Pioneer, could be hurt, as well as jobs. Also threatened is the Centaur upper stage project, designed to launch payloads once deployed from the shuttle's cargo bay. ------------------------------ Date: 21 Jan 1982 1507-PST Sender: BILLW at SRI-KL Subject: Re: News wires and stuff From: BILLW at SRI-KL To: Space-Enthusiasts at MIT-MC Message-ID: <[SRI-KL]21-JAN-82 15:07:23.BILLW> In-Reply-To: Your message of 21 Jan 1982 0302-PST Are we debating whether its legal/desirable for newswire stories from usenet to appear on the ARPANet, or newswires stories from the ARPANet to appear on usenet ? Just who all has automatic newswire searching software anyway ? (aside from SAIL and SRI on ARPANet). I for one agreee that there are few legal problems, since it is essentially the same as retyping articles from the paper unless you start distributing everything in real time... And I also DO want to read the stories that are being submitted... ------------------------------ End of SPACE Digest ******************* ----------------------------------------------------------------- gopher://quux.org/ conversion by John Goerzen of http://communication.ucsd.edu/A-News/ This Usenet Oldnews Archive article may be copied and distributed freely, provided: 1. There is no money collected for the text(s) of the articles. 2. The following notice remains appended to each copy: The Usenet Oldnews Archive: Compilation Copyright (C) 1981, 1996 Bruce Jones, Henry Spencer, David Wiseman.