Newsgroups: alt.etext From: dell@wiretap.spies.com (Thomas Dell) Subject: [talk.politics.guns] Information about the RKBA archive Message-ID: Organization: The Internet Wiretap Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1993 20:33:04 GMT Newsgroups: talk.politics.guns From: lvc@cbnews.cb.att.com (Larry Cipriani) Subject: Information about the rkba archive (Re: Sarah Brady) Organization: Ideology Busters, Inc. Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1993 14:59:12 GMT Message-ID: <1993Mar12.145912.1672@cbnews.cb.att.com> Lines: 1587 crphilli@hound.dazixca.ingr.com writes: >In the not too distant past, someone posted a 4 or 5 part >document that they were mailing to Sarah Brady. That was an "open letter" style of writing, just a joke. She wouldn't spend any time reading that. Anyway, below is the INDEX file for the anonymous ftp RKBA archive. What you are looking for is in the archive. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the INDEX file for the RKBA archive stored on the machine archive.cis.ohio-state.edu in the directory /pub/firearms/politics/rkba. This archive is accessible only via anonymous ftp. Instructions in how to use anonymous ftp are at the end of this file. An email server which contains muct of this archive is located at: listserv@mainstream.com To get the index send: get rkba index as the body of a message to the above address. For help send: help to that address. I have never used this email server so don't ask me for help, instead contact Craig Peterson at craig@mainstream.com. If you have any additions or suggestions for improvement to the RKBA archive please let me know. -- Larry Cipriani, att!cbvox1!lvc or l.v.cipriani@att.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: rkba82 Report of the Subcommittee on the Constitution of the Committee on the Judiciary, United States Senate, Ninety-seventh Congress, Second Session, February, 1982 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: congress/102nd/HCR11 House Concurrent Resolution 11 by Mr. Crane, January 3, 1991 Expressing the sense of the Congress with respect to the right of all Americans to keep and bear arms in defense of life or liberty and in pursuit of all other legitimate endeavors. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: congress/102nd/HJR438 House Joint Resolution 438 by Mr. Major Owens, March 11, 1992 Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States repealing the Second Amendment to the Constitution; includes comments by Owens entered into the Congressional Record. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: congress/102nd/HR1133 House Bill 1133 by Mr. Goodling, February 27, 1991 To amend title 18, United States Code, to prohibit transfer of firearm to, or possession of a firearm by, a person convicted of a drug crime, and to provide enhanced penalties for possession of a firearm during a drug crime. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: congress/102nd/HR1354 House Bill 1354 by Mr. Scheuer, March 7, 1991 To end the use of steel jaw leghold traps on animals in the United States. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: congress/102nd/HR1412 House Bill 1412 by Mr. Staggers, March 13, 1991 To amend title 18, United States Code, to provide for the establishment of a national hotline which a Federal Firearms licensee may contact to learn if receipt of a handgun by a prospective transferee is prohibited, and to require such a licensee to contact the hotline before the transfer of a handgun to a nonlicensee. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: congress/102nd/HR1559 House Bill 1559 by Mr. Gibbons, March 21, 1991 To prohibit the importation of semiautomatic assault weapons, large capacity ammunition feeding devices, and certain accessories. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: congress/102nd/HR1770 House Bill 1770 by Mr. Smith of Florida, April 15, 1991 To amend title 18, United States Code, to prohibit certain handguns which are unsuitable for lawful sporting purposes. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: congress/102nd/HR19 House Bill 19 by Mr. Hughes January 3, 1991 To prohibit the possession, transfer, and certain exports of restricted weapons, the manufacture of firearms capable of accepting a silencer or bayonet without alteration, and the possession and transfer of large capacity ammunition feeding devices, and for other purposes. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: congress/102nd/HR282 House Bill 282 by Mrs. Collins, January 3, 1991 To provide for the mandatory registration of handguns. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: congress/102nd/HR2922 House Bill 2922 by Mr. Cardin, July 17, 1991 To amend the Public Health Service Act to establish an entitlement of States and certain political subdivisions of States to receive grants for the abatement of health hazards associated with lead-based paint, and to amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to impose an excise tax and establish a trust fund to satisfy the Federal obligations arising from such entitlement. [This bill would impose upto a $0.75/pound tax on all new lead, and $0.37/pound tax on recycled lead.] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: congress/102nd/HR318 House Bill 318 by Mr. Dornan, January 3, 1991 To amend the Animal Welfare Act to prohibit dog racing and dog training involving the use of live animals as visual lure and to make such Act applicable to facilities that are used for dog racing or dog race training. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: congress/102nd/HR3371 House Bill 3371 "The Violent Crime Prevention Act of 1991" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: congress/102nd/HR371 House Bill 371 by Mr. Marlenee, January 3, 1991 To protect persons engaged in a lawful hunt within a national forest; establishing an administrative civil remedy against individuals or groups intentionally obstructing, impeding, or interfering with the conduct of a lawful hunt; and for other purposes. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: congress/101st/HR4079 House Bill 4079 by Mr. Gingrich, February 22, 1990 To provide swift and certain punishment for criminals in order to deter violent crime and rid America of illegal drug use. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: congress/102nd/HR436 House Bill 436 by Mr. Weiss, January 3, 1991 To prohibit the manufacture, transfer, or importation of .25 caliber and .32 caliber ammunition. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: congress/102nd/HR465 House Bill 465 by Mr. Rangel, January 7, 1991 To prohibit certain exports of fully automatic or semiautomatic assault weapons. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: congress/102nd/HR4897 House Bill 4897 by Mr. Cunningham, April 9, 1992 To amend title I of the Omnibus Crime Control and Safe Streets Act of 1968 to deny grant funds to States unless law enforcement officers are permitted to carry concealed firearms. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: congress/102nd/HR5633 House Bill 5633 by Mr. Schumer, July 21, 1992 To amend title 18, United States Code, to expand the scope of the multiple firearms sales reporting requirement, and to require that persons comply with State and local firearms licensing laws before receiving a Federal license to deal in firearms. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: congress/102nd/HR5807 House Bill 5807 by Mr. Schumer, August 10, 1992 To impose criminal penalties upon the failure of a Federal firearms licensee to report to appropriate authorities the loss or theft of a firearm from the inventory or collection of the licensee. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: congress/102nd/HR7 House Bill 7 by Mr. Feighan To require a waiting period before the purchase of a handgun; also known as "The Brady Bill" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: congress/102nd/HR750 House Bill 750 by Mr. Russo, January 30, 1991 To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1954 to provide that the excise tax on handguns will be transferred to a trust fund to be used for purposes of providing compensation to victims of crime, and for other purposes. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: congress/102nd/S214 Senate Bill 214 by Mr. Hatch, January 15, 1991 To provide procedures for calling Federal constitutional conventions under article V for the purpose of proposing amendments to the United States Constitution. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: congress/102nd/S2304 Senate Bill 2304 by Mr. Lautenberg, March 3, 1992 To amend title 18, United States Code, to permanently prohibit the possession of firearms by persons who have been convicted of a violent felony, and for other purposes. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: congress/102nd/S257 Senate Bill 257 To require a waiting period before the purchase of a handgun. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: congress/102nd/S2813 Senate Bill 2813 by Mr. Gore, June 4, 1992 To establish in the Government Printing Office an electronic gateway to provide public access to a wide range of Federal databases containing public information stored electronically. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: congress/102nd/S2913 Senate Bill 2913 by Mr. Chafee, June 30 1992 To prohibit the manufacture, importation, exportation, sale, purchase, transfer, receipt, possession, or transportation of handguns and ammunition, with certain exceptions. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: congress/102nd/S3282 Senate Bill 3282 by Mr. Mitchell, September 28 1992 To amend title 18, United States Code, to require a waiting period before the purchase of a handgun. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: congress/101st/S386 Senate Bill 386 by Mr. Metzenbaum, February 8, 1989 To control the sale and use of assault weapons. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: congress/102nd/S51 Senate Bill 51 by Mr. Moynihan, January 14, 1991 To prohibit the manufacture, transfer, or importation of .25 caliber and .32 caliber and 9 millimeter ammunition. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: congress/102nd/S634 Senate Bill 634 by Mr. Symms, March 13, 1991 To amend chapter 44, title 18, United States Code, to provide clarification of limitations on controls of firearms, and to prohibit the use of Federal funds to political subdivisions which implement certain gun control ordi- nances. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: congress/101st/S747 Senate Bill 747 by Mr. DeConcini, To amend chapter 44 of title 18, United States Code, regarding assault weapons. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: congress/102nd/S789 Senate Bill 789, by Mr. Moynihan, April 9, 1991 To prohibit the importation of semiautomatic assault weapons, large capacity ammunition feeding devices, and certain accessories. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: congress/102nd/S892 Senate Bill 892, By Mr. Metzenbaum, April 23, 1991 To amend title 15, United States Code, to authorize the Consumer Product Safety Commission to regulate the risk of injury associated with firearms. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: congress/102nd/S918 Senate Bill 918, by Mr. Packwood, April 24, 1991 The amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to exempt small manufacturers, producers, and importers from the firearms excise tax. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: congress/103rd/HR277 House Bill 277, by Mr. Mazolli, January 5, 1993 To amend title 18, United States Code, to require a waiting period before the purchase of a handgun. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: congress/103rd/HR544 House Bill 544, by Mr. Torricelli, January 21, 1993 To amend title 18, United States Code, to prohibit the transfer of 2 or more handguns to an individual in any 30-day period. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: congress/103rd/S178 Senate Bill 178, by Mr. Moynihan, January 21, 1993 To amend chapter 44 of title 18, United States Code, to prohibit the manufacture, transfer, or importation of .25 caliber and .32 caliber and 9 millimeter ammunition. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: congress/103rd/S179 Senate Bill 179, by Mr. Moynihan, January 21, 1993 To tax 9 millimeter, .25 caliber, and .32 caliber bullets. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: gun-free-zones Text of the GUN FREE SCHOOL ZONES ACT OF 1990 from PUBLIC LAW 101-647 NOV. 29, 1990 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: aclu A collection of articles on the ACLU's position on gun control. Included is ACLU Policy Statement #47 which gives the ACLU interpretation of the Second Amendment. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: dcm-info A collection of articles explaining the Civilian Marksmanship Program. In other words, "Why does the United States Department of Defense sell battle rifles to civilians ? " ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: dial911 "Dial 911 and Die!" By Aaron Zelman and Jay Simkin of Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership (JPFO) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: fija-info The Fully Informed Jury Amendment, and what it means to gun owners and the right to keep and bear arms. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: whitemanslaw White Man's Law by William R. Tonso, from the December 1985 Reason magazine ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: jefferson The First Inaugural Address of Thomas Jefferson, 2nd president of the United States. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: jewishistory Jewish History Rufutes Gun Control Activists, by Elliot Rothenberg from the February 1988 *American Rifleman*. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: law-abiding The Law-Abiding Gun Owner as Domestic and Acquaintance Murderer from "Guns, Murders, and the Constitution: A Realistic Assessment of Gun Control," by Don B. Kates, February, 1990, pp.45-49. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: second-ideology "The Second Amendment and the Ideology of Self-Protection" by Don B. Kates, Jr. Reprinted from CONSTITUTIONAL COMMENTARY, Vol. 9. No. 1. Winter 1992, (c) 1992 by Constitutional Commentary, Kates puts the Second Amendment and philosophies of self-protection into a historical perspective ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: new-understa Toward a New Understanding of the Second Amendment, by David T. Hardy ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: to-bear-arms "To Bear Arms for Self Defense: Our Second Amendment Heritage" by Stephen P. Halbrook. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: no-treason No Treason, The Constitution of No Authority by Lysander Spooner ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: resistance Excerpts from the study "Crime Control Through the Use of Armed Force", by Associate Professor Dr. Gary Kleck, Florida State University School of Criminology, published in the February 1988 issue of SOCIAL PROBLEMS. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: waitper-qna Waiting Period -- Questions and Answers by Handgun Control, Inc. (HCI) and Citizens for Safe Government (CSG) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: warsaw "The Warsaw Ghetto; 10 Handguns Against Tyranny", by Dr. David I Caplan from February, 1988 American Rifleman. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: wethepeople Supreme Court interpretations of the Second Amendment. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: sc-ftp How to retreive Supreme Court decisions via anonymous ftp. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: alternative-policy ALTERNATIVE POLICY FUTURES by Franklin E. Zimring from THE ANNALS OF THE AMERICAN ACADEMY OF POLITICAL AND SOCIAL SCIENCE. Volume 455, May 1981; published by The American Academy of Political and Social Science; 1981. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: embarassing.2nd.amendment The Embarassing Second Amendment by Sanford Levinson, Yale Law Journal Volume 99, pp 637-659 (1989) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: nra800 Phone numbers for the NRA, many are toll-free 800 numbers ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: nradrugs A collection of articles on the NRA's position on the War on Drugs. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: fl-aw-part1 Florida A.W. Commission - Exec Summary Part 1, ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: fl-aw-part2 Florida A.W. Commission - Exec Summary Part 2, STOCKTON -- THE FACTS by Martin L. Fackler, MD ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: iwba Information about the International Wound Ballistics Association, Martin Fackler, president ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: gunshyjudges Gun-Shy Judges by Jacob Sullum, from the May 1991 issue of Reason Magazine ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: heatofmoment In the Heat of the Moment, By James D. Wright ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: racist-soil Article "Gun Control Sprouts from Racist Soil." by Roy Innis, from the Wall Street Journal 11/21/91 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: core-policy "Bearing Arms for Self-Defense -- A Human and Civil Right" by Roy Innis, National Chairman, Congress of Racial Equality (CORE) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: righttobear The Right to Bear Arms By Sanford Levinson from the Daily News, Ft Walton Beach, FL. (1991) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: rock-island United States of America v. Rock Island Armory, US District Court for the Central District of IL; the court ruled that making a post '86 machine gun is not illegal -- believe it or not. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: dalton United States of America v. John William Dalton, US Court of Appeals, Tenth Circuit, 91-1149; the court ruled that owning or transferring a post '86 machine gun is not punishable under the NFA -- believe it or not. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: waitdanger Why Gun Waiting Periods Threaten Public Safety By David B. Kopel, March 25, 1991 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: aw-qna Assault Weapon Questions & Answers by Handgun Control, Inc. and Citizens for Safe Government (CSG) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: ccw-survey A state by state survey of Carrying Concealed Weapons laws. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: us-vs-miller United States vs. Miller et al., Appeal from the District Court of the United States for the Western District of Arkansas. Argued March 30, 1939 -- Decided May 15, 1939 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: presser The history of Presser v Illinois is a fascinating exercise of how politically based decisions on our Constitutional rights have come back to haunt us. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: cia-ncbh A column by Neal Knox presenting evidence that former CIA agent Edwin O. Welles played a major role in founding HCI and NCBH. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: conphone A list of voice and fax phone number for representatives and senators. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: billofrights The first 10 articles of amendment to the United States Constitution. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: constitution The Constitution of the United States of America ---------------------------------------------------------------------- decl-of-indp The Declaration of Independence ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: dont-wait "Criminals Don't Wait -- Why Should You ?" from the NRA. Exposes the fraudulent arguments made for waiting periods. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: external The Positive Externalities of Gun Ownership ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: english-hist Firearms Legislation in Great Britain, by Jan A. Stevenson ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: simkin "Control Criminals, Not Guns" by Jay Edward Simkin found in the March, 25 1991 [or '92?] Wall Street Journal: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: unabridged The Unabridged Second Amendment, by J. Neil Schulman An interview with Roy Copperud, retired professor of journalism at USC and author of "American Usage and Style: The Consensus". Copperud offers his professional opinion on the meaning of the Second Amendment. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: uzitruth A letter from J. Harper Wilson, Director FBI Uniform Crime Reporting Program to Paul H. Blackman, Research Coordinator of the NRA stating that only one police officer, of Puerto Rico, was shot and killed with a semi-automatic 9mm Model A Uzi. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: maketheirday "How to Make Their Day" by Don B. Kates Jr. and Patricia Terrell Harris in the National Review, October 21, 1991 Kates and Harris debunk several myths about firearms, criminals, and violence. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: two-myths Two myths of gun control from "Point Blank: Guns and Violence in America" by Gary Kleck. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: aw-not-problem "Assault Weapons Aren't the Problem", by Gary Kleck, published in The New York Times Tuesday, September 1, 1992 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: oregon-study 1990 Oregon Study of Retail Firearm Sales and CHL Licensing ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: children Fighting for Children's Hearts and Minds by Robert Pew, American Rifleman - April 1992 Discusses how HCI and it's Center to Prevent Handgun Violence have set out to use public schools as forums for their anti-gun propaganda. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: external Positive Externalities of Gun Ownership, by John Kell, from "The Freeman: Ideas on Liberty, October 1991 " ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: gunssputter "Guns and Sputter" by James D. Wright, from July 1989 issue of REASON. Wright exposes the flaws in the New England Journal of Medicine study comparing the homicide rates of Seattle and Vancouver. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: nejm-info A collection of articles and information on the New England Journal of Medicine Vancouver/Seattle handgun crime comparison study. See also the file gunssputter, authored by James Wright. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: dcstudy.1 The New England Journal of Medicine. 1991 Dec 5. 325 (23). pp 1647-1650. Editorials: Firearms And The Killing Threshold. Kassirer-Jerome-P. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: dcstudy.2 The New England Journal of Medicine. 1991 Dec 5. 325 (23). pp 1615-1620. Special Article: Effects Of Restrictive Licensing Of Handguns On Homicide And Suicide In The District Of Columbia. Loftin-Colin. McDowall-David. Wiersema-Brian. Cottey-Talbert-J. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: nejm-editorial The New England Journal of Medicine. 1988 Nov 10. 319 (19). pp 1283-1285. Editorial: Firearm Injuries: A Call For Science. Mercy-James-A. Houk-Vernon-N. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: nejm-letters The New England Journal of Medicine. 1989 May 4. 320 (18). pp 1214-1217. Correspondence: Handgun Regulations, Crime, Assaults, And Homicide: A Tale Of Two Cities. Blackman-Paul-H. Hagen-Tim. Morris-David-C. Stolinsky-David-C. Tirer-Samuel. Gryder-John-W. Kuziak-John-D. Sloan-John-H. Kellerman-Arthur-L-Kellermann. Rivara-Fred-P. Koepsell-Thomas. Reay-Donald-T. LoGerfo-James-P. Rice-Charles. Ferris-James-A. Gray-Laurel- A. Mercy-James-A. Houk-Vernon-N. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: suicide.1 The New England Journal of Medicine. 1990 Feb 8. 322 (6). pp 369-373. Special Article: Firearm Regulations And Rates Of Suicide: A Comparison of Two Metropolitan Areas. Sloan-John-Henry. Rivara-Frederick-P. Reay-Donald-T. Ferris-James-A-J. Kellermann-Arthur-L. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: suicide.2 The New England Journal of Medicine. 1990 Jul 12. 323 (2). p 137. Correspondence: Firearm Regulations and Rates of Suicide. Blackman-Paul-H. Sloan-John-Henry. Rivara-Frederick-P. Kellermann-Arthur. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: totc The New England Journal of Medicine. 1988 Nov 10. 319 (19). pp 1256-1262. Special Article: Handgun Regulations, Crime, Assaults, And Homicide: A Tale of Two Cities. Sloan-John-Henry. Kellermann-Arthur-L. Reay-Donald-T. Ferris-James-A. Koepsell-Thomas. Rivara-Frederick-P. Rice-Charles. Gray-Laurel. LoGerfo-James. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: nra.cdc An open letter from Paul H. Blackman, of NRA to the Director, Office of Scientific Integrity Review, U.S. Public Health Service, detailing why they should evaluate the integrity and competency of firearms research conducted by and for the Centers for Disease Control (CDC). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: RKBA.000 What the RKBA.nnn files are all about. The RKBA.nnn series are set of small (60-100 lines typically) postings that address common questions and myths about all aspects of firearms. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: RKBA.001 Accidental deaths by firearms and by other means. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- FILE: RKBA.002 Declining trend of accidental deaths by firearms ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: RKBA.003 Homicide per capita in the US ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: RKBA.004 Children and firearms ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: RKBA.008 Annual firearm manufacture in the United States ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: RKBA.010 Declaration of Independence ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: RKBA.013 Trend in weapons use for robberies (1974-86) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: RKBA.014 Reasons for homicide and non-negligent manslaughter ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: RKBA.015 Are firearms a leading cause of death of children? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: RKBA.016 Is the United States the most violent nation? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: RKBA.999 Complete list of all sources used for the RKBA.nnn series. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: cox-study Analysis of the Cox Atlanta Journal Constitution, 21 May 1989 article on Assault Weapons, by James J. Baker of NRA-ILA, before the Select Committee on Narcotics Abuse and Control, U.S. House of Representatives. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: feder11.txt The Federalist Papers, as transcribed by Project Gutenberg 1.1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: great-quotes Thomas Jefferson quotes and more ... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: civilian Civilian Possession of Military Firearms, by Richard A. I. Munday, from the January/February 1988 issue of the UK Handgunner. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: good-go-bad "When Good, Law-Abiding Citizens Go Bad", from UK Handgunner No. 46 Jan-Feb 1989. Discusses how the rate of compliance of gun control laws is always very low, even among otherwise law abiding citizens. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: tory-national-socialism "Tory National Socialism", by Richard A.I. Munday, UK Handgunner, Jul-Aug 86. Discusses the gun control leanings of socialists of the right. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: the-big-lie " Gun Grabbers vs. Assault Rifles: The Big Lie" by Neal Knox, Semi-auto military-styled "assault" rifles are not now nor have they ever been a threat to society. These facts have been determined by the government - but never released to the public! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: ff-47 "The Founding Fathers and the AK-47", by Sue Wimmershoff-Caplan Discuss the question if the Founding Fathers would have approved of the AK-47 for civilian ownership. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: hcikkk "Handgun Control, Inc., & the KKK" by David Kopel, from the Oct 91 issue of Gun World magazine. Discusses the parallels in the hate campaigns of the Ku Klux Klan and Handgun Control, Inc. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: rkba-orgs A list of organizations devoted to the preservation of the Second Amendment. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: victoria "The Gun Law Handbook" for the state of Victoria, Australia (Oct 1988). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: nra-purposes A summary of the NRA's purposes and objectives, and positions on some gun control issues. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: ktw A collection of articles relating to teflon coated, armor piercing bullets. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: thompsoncenter The Supreme Court decision in the case: United States of America v. Thompson/Center Arms Co. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: DMN_Gratia_CCP "Concealed weapons can prevent tragedies like Killeen's" by Dr. Suzanna Gratia in the Dallas Morning News, Sunday April 29th, 1992 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: Knox_AW_lies Neal Knox on how military style semi-auto's are not a threat to public safety, how they are not fundamentally different than ordinary hunting weapons, and how the gun grabbers are exploiting the bad image this class of weapons has to enact further gun control. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: WSJ_Crimestrik "The NRA Mounts a Militant Campaign Taking Aim at Criminal-Justice System" by Alix M. Freedman staff reporter of The Wall Street Journal. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: med-media "Gun Prohibition in the Medical Literature - Telling the Truth?" by Edgar A. Suter, MD ; discusses anti-gun bias in medical journals. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: toy-guns "Court Psychologist Says Toy Guns Are Good For Children" from Gun Week, 1989. Glen David Skoler, court psychologist for the Arlington County, VA, claims "toys of violence" -- including toy guns are, in fact, good for children. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: awca89-appeal Text of the 9th Circuit court of Appeals in the Fresno Rifle and Pistol Club challenge to California's Roberti-Roos Assault Weapon Control Act of 1989. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: lp92-rkba The right to keep and bear arms plank of the 1992 National Platform of the Libertarian Party. And a reproduction of the Libertarian Party brochure "Responsible Gun Ownership: Equal Rights for America's Gun Owners" The entire 1992 National Platform of the LP is available via anonymous ftp on think.com in the file /pub/libernet/LP/libertarian-platform-1992 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: let-july91 An article from the July/August 1991 issue of Law Enforcement Technology with a survey of police officers on their views of gun control. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: nacp-poll A study conducted by the National Association of the Chiefs of Police (NACP) through its American Law Enforcement Survey for 1989, in which 16,259 chiefs of police, sheriffs and law-enforcement command personnel were polled with a list of 30 questions, it was determined the overwhelming majority of officers support the right of private arms ownership, and agreed that gun bans had little effect on crime. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: hci-advert A example of the propaganda used by HCI in soliciting contributions. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: hci-transcript A transcription of the HCI video tape "America Needs a National Handgun Control Policy" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: gartner Michael Gartner, president of NBC News, calls for a ban on handguns in this USA TODAY Thursday January 16th 1992 editorial. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: nra-lp A resolution passed by the voting membership of the NRA at its national convention in Anaheim, CA stating the NRA will support third party candidates. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: cooley Thomas M. Cooley, LL.D., General Principles of Constitutional Law in the United States of America, 298-299 (3rd ed. 1898), a leading constitutional commentator discussed the rights protected by the Second Amendment: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: kilpatrick "Gun Law Might Curb Rising Murder Rate" by James Kilpatrick, St. Louis Post-Dispatch Tuesday June 23, 1992. Kilpatrick expresses support for a national firearms law as proposed by C. Everett Koop, that is, a requirement that gun owners pass a competency test, among other things. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: vanity-fair A summary of the 10 page article on Jim and Sarah Brady which appeared in the January '91 issue of Vanity Fair Magazine. Question: "Was it true you wanted to get a gun to protect yourself against Hinckley?" Answer Jim brady: "I had a gun" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: goldwin "Gun Control Is Constitutional," by Robert A. Goldwin from the Wall Street Journal edtorial page, Thrusday, December 12, 1991 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: anniston Two articles on a murder averted in Anniston, Alabama by a man with a CCW permit. The importance of this event is that it closely followed the murders by Hennard in Texas, but the media did not cover Anniston. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: staggers-brady A survey of public support for the Staggers Instant Background Check and the Brady Waiting Period. The basic finding is that once the public understands the advantages of the instant background check vs. the problems with the Brady waiting period support for the Brady waiting period diminishes greatly. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: brady-vote How Congress voted on the Staggers Instant Background Check and the Brady Waiting period. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: vs-vote How Congress voted on the Volkmer-Sensenbrenner Amendment to strike the new gun control sections from the administration crime bill. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: dc-vote How the U.S. Senate voted on S. 2113, the repeal of the District of Columbia's anti-gun strict liability law. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: covey "Gun Control: Trying the Facts, Weighing the Values" A monograph based on "Crime, Inequality, Guns, & Equity" by Preston K. Covey, Ph.D., Director Center for the Advancement of Applied Ethics, Carnegie Mellon University. Addresses the desirability of gun bans: ethical aspects, equity issues, and other values at stake in the management of mortal risks, deadly force and its instruments. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: assays-of-bias "Assays of Bias on the Second Amendment: The Media Elite" by Preston K. Covey, Director Center for the Advancement of Applied Ethics [excerpts from a longer monograph] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: cleveland A critique of: ACCIDENTAL FIREARM FATALITIES IN A METROPOLITAN COUNTY (1958-1973) Rushforth, Hirsch, Ford, and Adelson American Journal of Epidemiology #100, 1974, pp. 499-505. This is THE study that lies at the heart of the gun control claim that owning a firearm for self-defense is too dangerous. The claims that a defensive gun is X (=6 in this study) times more likely to be used against an innocent person than in lawful self-defense originated with this report in 1974. by Robert I. Kesten ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: tiananmen-lessons "LESSONS FROM TIANANMEN SQUARE" by Neal Knox reprinted from Guns & Ammo, September 1989 Why the Second Amendment is so important, even in todays more "progressive" era. Included is a description of the 1932 Bonus March in Washington, DC in which Gen. Douglas MacArthur opposed unemployed WWI veterans lobbying for the government to immediately pay their promised Veteran's Bonus. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: forward-trace "California FFL Dealer Defies "Forward Trace"" by Neal Talbot in The New Gun Week, March 1, 1991. Details how the BATF bullies FFL holders into giving BATF copies of 4473's in violation of federal law. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: justice-stats "Handgun Crime Victims", by Michael R. Rand, Bureau of Justice Statistics Statistician, U.S. Department of Justice. This Bureau of Justice Statistics Special Report describes the key findings from an analysis of handgun crimes reported in the National Crime Survey for 1979-87. It describes the victims of hand-gun [sic] crime, how the handgun was used during the crime, and the nature and extent of handgun crime injury. It also provides information on handgun offenders, the location of handgun crimes, and whether the crime was reported to the police. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: chafee Included are: 1) Transcript of press conference with Senator John Chafee, and former Supreme Court justice Warren Burger on S. 2913, Chafee's, handgun ban. Also speaking was Vernon Jordan, former member of the Jimmy Carter White House; Mayor Sharon Pratt Kelly; Michael Beard of National Coalition to Stop Gun Violence; Michael Casserly (executive director, Council of the Great City Schools); Dr. Carden Johnston representing the American Academy of Pediatrics; 2) An article by Neal Knox in which he describes how Sarah Brady kicked out HCI president Charles Orasin because of a disagreement on Chafee's handgun ban. 3) An article on Burger's support for S. 2913. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: alarmist-view "Gun Registration: An 'Alarmist' View" by Jon vanWormer; reprinted from the December 1985 Guns & Ammo. How an rkba moderate became a radical. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: fackler-papers A list of articles by "Col. Martin L. Fackler, M.D., F.A.C.S." Wound Ballistics Lab, and where to write for copies of them. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: gun-war "THE GREAT AMERICAN GUN WAR" by Barry Bruce-Briggs, _The_Public_Interest_ No. 45, Fall 1976, pp 37-62 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: george-will "Repeal Second Amendment and Save Lives", by George Will ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: reeves "Drastic Steps to End the War at Home" by Richard Reeves, no date nor publication available; placed in rkba archive 9/2/92 "Studies _Prove_ Gun Control Works" by Richard Reeves, from the Kansas City Star, 9/28/92. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: canada-ban-list A reproduction of a brochure from the Canadian Department of Justice listing newly prohibited and restricted firearms (as of June 1992). Also included is the "point system" used to determine if a firearm should be reviewed for possible banning. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: copkiller Lyrics to the rock song "Cop Killer" by Ice-T on the album Body Count. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: cva.1 A letter from the California Voters Alliance, asking for support in their effort to defeat anti-gun California Assemblyman Terry Friedman, co-author of California's waiting period law for rifles and shotguns. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: astrology "CRIMINOLOGY'S ASTROLOGY: The CDC Approach to Public Health Research on Firearms and Violence" by PAUL H. BLACKMAN, Ph.D., Institute for Legislative Action, National Rifle Association, 1990 A paper presented at the annual meetings of the American Society of Criminology, Baltimore, Maryland, November 7-10 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: aw-panic The Assault Weapon Panic: "Political Correctness" Takes Aim, at the Constitution, by Eric Morgan and David Kopel Published by The Independence Institute, October 10, 1991 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: state-rkba A collection of RKBA provisions from State constitutions. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: too-late Chapter 13 "But then it was too Late" of "THEY THOUGHT THEY WERE FREE: The Germans, 1933 - 1945", by: Milton Mayer, University of Chicago Press ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: militia-code The legal definition of the militia of the United States of America taken from: United Stated Code (USC), TITLE 10, Section 311 and Section 312. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: legal-mg-crime Report No. 32 of the Firearms Coalition of Silver Spring, MD. 11/29/89 by Neal Knox. Knox reports that a legally registered machine gun was used in a drug hit. Subsequent reports said charges were dropped for lack of evidence. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: hci-cash HCI donation records to US Senators and Congressmen. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: paulreverenet Information about the "Paul Revere Net", a network of 2nd Amendment Bulletin Boards The Paul Revere Network (PRN) is a coast-to-coast network of committed grass-roots gun rights activists who rely upon computer bulletin board systems for their primary mode of communication. Leroy Pyle (NRA Director and 27-year San Jose police veteran) is Founder and Director of the PRN. Based in San Jose, CA, Pyle's BBS (1:143/223) currently hubs all network message traffic. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: gun-talk Information about the NRA-ILA Bulletin Board "Gun Talk" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: congressgrades A grading of congressmen based their votes on 1) the Brady Bill (HR7), 2) Staggers (HR1412) and 3) the Volkmer-Sensenbrenner amendment to strike the anti-gun provisions from the house crime bill (HR3371). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: lawmaster "FEDS TRASH LAW-ABIDING GUN OWNER'S HOME", NRA official journal March 1992, by Richard E. Gardiner. Details how the BATF raided the home of Johnny Lawmaster in search of a non-existent unregistered M-16 auto-sear. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: point-blank The concluding chapter to "Point Blank" by Gary Kleck. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: purdy-rapsheet Patrick Purdy's criminal record. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: progundocs Statement of purpose and contact information for "Doctors for Integrity in Research & Public Policy" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: orlando A summary of the effects of the highly publicized Orlando training program in which over 6000 women were trained in basic pistol marksmanship and the law of self-defense. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: form4signoff A letter from Wayne Miller, Chief National Firearms Act Branch of BATF stating that local law enforcement signoff on the ATF Form 4, application for Taxpaid Transfer and Registration of Firearm [i.e., machine gun], is completely discretionary. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: badlands.txt New Zealand Firearms Control by Robert Badlands. A paper presented at a conference on Gun Control held at Melbourne University-Union Theatre 27-28 August 1988. The conference was sponsored by the Sporting Shooters' Association of Australia. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: danto.txt Issues Regarding Gun Control in America by Bruce L. Danto A paper was presented at a conference on Gun Control held at Melbourne University-Union Theatre 27-28 August 1988. The conference was sponsored by the Sporting Shooters' Association of Australia. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: fine.txt Impediments to the Purposeful Reform of (Australian) Firearms Laws by J. D. Fine A paper presented at a conference on Gun Control held at Melbourne University-Union Theatre 27-28 August 1988. The conference was sponsored by the Sporting Shooters' Association of Australia. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: greenwd.txt Untitled paper by Colin Greenwood A paper presented at a conference on Gun Control held at Melbourne University-Union Theatre 27-28 August 1988. The conference was sponsored by the Sporting Shooters' Association of Australia. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: kates.txt Gun Control: Recent Research on the American Experience by Don B. Kates, Jr. A paper presented at a conference on Gun Control held at Melbourne University-Union Theatre 27-28 August 1988. The conference was sponsored by the Sporting Shooters' Association of Australia. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: marsden.txt Gun Control: A Banker's Perspective, by ??? Marsden A paper presented at a conference on Gun Control held at Melbourne University-Union Theatre 27-28 August 1988. The conference was sponsored by the Sporting Shooters' Association of Australia. Note, this paper is almost impossible to read currently as the original would not scan well. A more readable copy will be supplied later. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: backdoor Back Door Gun Control by Peter Alan Kasler from the January 1993 issue of American Survival Guide magazine. Kasler discusses four examples of innocent people whose firearms are confiscated, and/or charged with a crime when none was committed, as examples of how gun control is implemented in the real world. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: armed-citizen "The Armed Citizen" feature from "The American Rifleman" and "The American Hunter"; these stories show how firearms are indeed useful for self-defense. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: botsford The Case Against Gun Control by David Botsford ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: academia-bias "Fighting Anti-Gun Bias in Academia -- an article downloaded from the NRA-ILA BBS "Gun Talk" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: story-of-gun "The Story of a Gun" by Erik Larson, from "The Atlantic", January 1993. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: hcr** Reports to the Firearms Coalition, by Neal Knox. All these files are named hcr then two numbers, e.g., hcr51 for "Report No. 51 to the Firearms Coalition" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: whose.txt "Whose Side Are They On ?" "Freedom From War: The United States Program For General and Complete Disarmament in a Peaceful World." an official publication of the United States of America government. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: nccfa Contact information for the "National Collegiate Coalition for Firearms Awareness" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: canada Some facts about Canadian gun control laws, gun ownership and violent crime. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: time-letter Time magazine's form letter response to criticism of their "Death By Gun" issue. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: gun-in-school "Health Objectives for the Nation: Weapon-Carrying Among High School Students -- United States, 1990" edited by David Dodell, D.M.D. Proposes ways to reduce carrying of firearms by high school students. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: congress-cover "Congress Covers Itself But Not Public" by Paul Craig Roberts, printed in the Cleveland Plain Dealer October 2nd, 1992. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: hamper "Restrictions hamper law abiding folks, not criminals." by David B. Kopel, printed in the Columbus OH Dispatch, January 16th. Points out how waiting periods can cause a great deal of harm. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: schumer-gripe A "Washington Post" letter to the editor by Congessman Charles E. Schumer discussing his bill, H.R. 5633, which requires law enforcement sign-off on FFL applications. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: sof A UPI article on a lawsuit against "Soldier of Fortune" which forced them out of business. This article is copyright by UPI, and archived with permission; please respect the re-distribution prohibition. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: fl-stats A summary of CCW permit statistics for the state of Florida, e.g., the number of permits issued, number revoked, number denied, etc. This proves that people obtaining CCW permits are law abiding citizens and are not wreckless with their firearms. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: knox-on-ruger "Knox Replies To Comment From Ruger Counsel's" from The New Gun Week, December 1, 1989. Neal Knox discusses how Sturm, Ruger Inc. are willing to sacrifice the RKBA for the benefit of their business. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: american-blacks "Gun Control and American Blacks" by Raymond G. Kessler (pp. 476-478) In the United States, the experience of blacks from slavery through the 1960's was one of the clearest and best-documented examples of the political functions of gun control. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: nraction* The NRA-ILAs little known newsletter "NRAction"; names will have the month and year at the end, e.g., nraction0291. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: americamilitia "America's Militia" by David B. Kopel, appeared in "Gun World" magazine December 1992. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: hci93agenda The "Action Agenda for a National Gun Policy" by HCI. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: hci-newsletter The Handgun Control Semi-Annual Progress Report for December 1992. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: hattoripetition A petition written by the host family of Japanese exchange student Yoshihiro Hattori, who was killed when he went to the wrong home for a Halloween party: "To protest the easy availability of firearms in the United States" which will be presented to President Clinton. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: hci-election "What the Election Means for Our Gun Control Movement" by Sarah Brady. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: centerwall University of Washington Pyschiatrist Dr. Brandon Centerwall writing in the April 1989 American Journal of Epidemiology says that television exposure is related to half of the homicides in the United States. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: va-outrage "An Outrage in Virginia" by Neal Knox. Describes how BATF used a Virginia gun dealer to general strawman sales and then later "traced" those guns back to VA so they could claim 40% of guns they traced came from VA. When the dealer stopped cooperating they were convicted of conducting strawman sales, one of the owners committed suicide. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: factcard93 The 1993 Firearms Fact Card published by the NRA-ILA ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: nejm43 A letter to the editor of the Wall Street Journal by Preston Covey on the factoid "You are 43 times more likely to kill someone you know with a gun than a criminal." ---------------------------------------------------------------------- RKBA archive: general information and anonymous ftp instructions. The moderator of the firearms-politics mailing list, Karl Kleinpaste, has agreed to set up an anonymous ftp archive directory for RKBA related information. This directory can be used for things like articles by Kates, Wright, Tonso, Levinson, Supreme Court Decisions, the RIA vs US decision, copies of legislation, and so on. It's not meant to be for the discussions that normally appear here. So, in the future if you're looking for something check there first and then ask here. Instructions: Short version for techies: The site is archive.cis.ohio-state.edu (Internet number 128.146.8.52) Place contributions into the directory /pub/firearms/politics/incoming. The ftp commands put, mput or send should work. Give the command "type binary" to be certain compressed files are transferred correctly. Karl will move files from this directory to /pub/firearms/politics/rkba if they fit within the intent of this archive, otherwise they will be removed. To get a file use the commands get or mget. I will maintain an index which you should get first to check if the file you want to read or write already is archived. Long version for non-techies: In order for you to use this archive your computer must be on the Internet. To connect to the archive site run the command: ftp archive.cis.ohio-state.edu If that doesn't work try the command: ftp 128.146.8.52 If that doesn't work you cannot use this archive. If the ftp command is successful you'll get this prompt asking you for a login: Name (archive.cis.ohio-state.edu:lvc): Instead of lvc your initials will appear. Answer this prompt with: ftp Next you'll get this prompt asking your for your e-mail address: Guest login ok, send e-mail address as password: I would enter: lvc@cbvox1.att.com You'll enter your own e-mail address. You'll get these lines or similar as output: Remote system is UNIX. Using binary mode to transfer files. Next, the command prompt is printed: ftp> If you do not get the line "Using binary mode to transfer files." Run the command: type binary Now you're logged in to the archive machine. There are many directories on this machine but the two you are concerned with are /pub/firearms/politics/rkba and /pub/firearms/politics/incoming. When you login to the system your directory is /. To change your directory to the rkba directory run the command: cd /pub/firearms/politics/rkba Or to change your directory to the incoming directory run the command: cd /pub/firearms/politics/incoming Once you do this you'll get another ftp> prompt asking you to enter another command. To find the names of the existing files in the directory you are in run the command: ls -l You'll get an output looking something like this: total 1775 -r--r--r-- 1 482 91513 Apr 30 17:11 82rkba -r--r--r-- 1 482 18550 May 18 20:38 INDEX -r--r--r-- 1 482 1653 May 8 16:01 HCR11 ... and so on ... This shows there are three files, one called INDEX and one called HCR11. To get a file run the command "get" followed by the name of the file you want, for example: get INDEX or get HCR11 After the file is transfered to your machine a message like this: Transfer complete. 1653 bytes received in 1 seconds (1 Kbytes/s) You can repeat the get command for every file you want to retreive. Once you're finished you can log off with the command: quit If you have a file you want to contribute the procedure is a little different. First of all you should find out if the file already exists, so get a copy of the index file with the procedure above and look it over to make sure you wouldn't repeat an entry. The index will have a description of each of the files in the rkba directory. For example: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- File: whitemanslaw White Man's Law by William R. Tonso, from the December 1985 Reason magazine ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Once you've determined you won't be duplicating an entry, login and change to the incoming directory command (see way above). Once you are in the incoming directory use the command: put file_name_goes_here If you have a file called, sb-fan-club, then the command is: put sb-fan-club Again there'll be a "Transfer complete, so many bytes transfered in so many seconds" message. Now your file is on the archive machine. Another thing to watch out for is duplicate file *names*. So, be sure there isn't a file in the incoming directory that is called the same as the file you want to write. If you use the same name you'll overwrite the previous file [or you'll get an error message]. Your file may have to be renamed if there is a conflict with a file by the same name in the rkba directory. Once your file is in the incoming directory send me an entry for the INDEX file and I will add it to the file. If you cannot use anonymous ftp and would still like to contribute a file email the file to me and I'll take care of the rest. If you have any questions feel free to ask me. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Note: All words and phrases _marked _with _underscores_ were italicized in the original. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Larry Cipriani, att!cbvox1!lvc or l.v.cipriani@att.com