RISKS-LIST: RISKS-FORUM Digest Tuesday 13 September 1988 Volume 7 : Issue 51 FORUM ON RISKS TO THE PUBLIC IN COMPUTERS AND RELATED SYSTEMS ACM Committee on Computers and Public Policy, Peter G. Neumann, moderator Contents: Single Character Errors (Geoff. Lane) Soviet Mars Probe and single character errors (PGN) Stanford Collider Shut Down (PGN) Destructive remote controls (Jim Williams) Re: computer follies (Michael Greim via Mark Brader) IFF and the Vincennes (Dennis Brantly) Re: Disinterest in disaster not based on probability estimates (Amos Shapir) ``MS-DOS "virus" programs do not exist.'' (David Dyer-Bennet) Hiding payoff slot (Peter da Silva) Citation for "car engines become target for hackers" (karl) The RISKS Forum is moderated. Contributions should be relevant, sound, in good taste, objective, coherent, concise, and nonrepetitious. Diversity is welcome. CONTRIBUTIONS to RISKS@CSL.SRI.COM, with relevant, substantive "Subject:" line (otherwise they may be ignored). REQUESTS to RISKS-Request@CSL.SRI.COM. FOR VOL i ISSUE j / ftp kl.sri.com / login anonymous (ANY NONNULL PASSWORD) / get stripe:risks-i.j ... (OR TRY cd stripe: / get risks-i.j ... Volume summaries in (i, max j) = (1,46),(2,57),(3,92),(4,97),(5,85),(6,95). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 13 Sep 88 11:07:15 BST From: "Geoff. Lane. Tel UK-061 275 6051" Subject: Single Character Errors It has been suggested in a previous RISKS that single keystroke errors may just be an Urban Myth. Unfortunately not - in the GEORGE 3 operating system (which used to run on ICL 1900 series computers) the command to edit a file was "ed" and the command to erase a file was "er". The letters "d" and "r" are conveniently next to each other on the keyboard. Apart from this one aberration the George 3 system was a great improvement on all its successors! Geoff. Lane., University of Manchester Regional Computer Centre ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Sep 88 15:20:18 PDT From: Peter G. Neumann Subject: Soviet Mars Probe For the "single-character" doubters: The Soviet Mars probe was mistakenly ordered to "commit suicide" when ground control beamed up a 20 to 30 page message in which a single character was inadvertently omitted. The change in progam was required because the Phobos 1 control had been transferred from a command center in the Crimea to a new facility near Moscow. "The [changes] would not have been required if the controller had been working the computer in Crimea." The commands caused the spacecraft's solar panels to point the wrong way, which would prevent the batteries from staying charged, ultimately causing the spacecraft to run out of power. [From the SF Chronicle, 10 Sept 88, item (page A11), thanks to Jack Goldberg.] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Sep 88 15:35:20 PDT From: Peter G. Neumann Subject: Stanford Collider Shut Down Stanford University's $115 million linear collider has been shut down after several months' efforts failed to get it running properly. Although there seems to be nothing basically wrong with the system, it is "simply so complicated that, despite the best efforts of more than 100 people, they have not been able to keep all its complex parts working together long enough to get results." Since spring they have "fought a succession of glitches and breakdowns in the machine's myriad magnets, computer controls, and focusing devices." [Source: San Francisco Chronicle, 13 September 1988, p. A2] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Sep 88 13:26:56 EDT From: williams@CSS.NRL.NAVY.MIL Subject: Destructive remote controls Recently, I was in a hotel room in the Washington, DC area. The TV in the room had a remote control that was not, as is often done, anchored to the bedside table, but did have this theft-deterant notice on it: "This remote control will only work on Beeblebrox Hotel TVs. REMOTE WILL DAMAGE your home TV sets." The first sentence I believe, the second I absolutely do not. I can not imagine what form the damage might take, unless the IR coming from the remote is so bright that it would burn out the sensor in an "ordinary" TV or VCR. So, is this notice a lie, to decrease the likelyhood of theft? That's all I could figure, but it sure reduced my opinion of Beeblebrox Hotel for putting such a silly notice on the thing. Why am I posting this to RISKS? Well, suppose it's true! What damage could I do with this "infrared laser"? Will it hurt my eyes? If I had an HP-28 calculator, or similar device, which uses an optical connection for the printer, could I accidentally damage that? Had I been an actual paying guest I would have harassed them about it, but I was just visiting and it was on a weekend, so I doubted I'd find out anything useful. Technical information: The remote (and TV) were made by General Electric, it was powered by two AAA cells, and seemed to be a typical IR controller, but with minimal functions. "Beeblebrox" is not the true name of the hotel ;-). Jim Williams ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Sep 88 14:55:19 EDT From: Mark Brader Subject: Re: computer follies Path: sq!utfyzx!utgpu!utzoo!attcan!uunet!mcvax!unido!sbsvax!greim From: greim@sbsvax.UUCP (Michael Greim) Date: 7 Sep 88 09:29:05 GMT Organization: Universitaet des Saarlandes, Saarbruecken, West Germany Here are some computer follies published some time ago. >From Jack Campin (jack@cs.glasgow.ac.uk) on Nov 27 1987 From Tim Olson (tim@amdcad.UUCP) on Dec 1 1987 From Clif Flynt (clif@.chinet.UUCP) 15 Dec 1987 : matt@ncr-sd.SanDiego.NCR.COM (Matt Costello) writes: <>The real problems in interface design generally occur because of <>unstated assumptions. We had a hilarious incident occur here <>recently... <> <> Imagine our suprise when a worried secretary called <>to say that she had been able to fit only 5 of the disks into the <>disk drive. <> < < A similar incident happened to a friend, diagnosing a floppy disk read Friend 2> Foe 3> Unknown IF a ship finds itself in a COMBAT situation and detects an aircraft which is approaching and which is not of catagory 1, then the ship will more than likely fire. The only way that an aircraft can be determined to be a FRIEND is either by having correct IFF or by visual comfirmation. An aircraft with NO IFF, will be of catagory 3 (Unknown), but if considered approaching in a threatening manner (ship's determination not the pilot) will quickly be changed by default to catagory 2 (Foe) and will be fired upon. You might ask what is to prevent an "enemy" aircraft from being classified as a FRIEND? Elaborate measures ARE in place to prevent this from happening, HOPEFULLY they are adequate. It is because it is easier to "turn the IFF off" (becoming catagory 3 rather than 2) than break the codes necessary to become catagory 1, that makes the Unknown aircraft so likely to be fired upon in a combat situation. So my argument is that if a friendly aircraft is operating in an area where there are also friendly forces, it had best keep its IFF "ON" or "risk" that it's own forces may shoot it down. In the "heat of battle" each individual ship must make fast decisions based on the information it has available to it at that time (IFF). Those decisions ultimately determine the fate of the ship/crew/mission. Case in point: Vietnam, 1972 I was the operator of MR3, Missile Radar #3 (AN/SPG 51-C) on the USS Towers (DDG-9) off the coast of Haiphong Harbor, North Vietnam, approx. 3AM. We were in the process of shelling various railway yards and also taking fire from 175mm shore batteries when a low-flying, high-speed aircraft was detected heading towards our ship at approx. 12 miles distance, with no IFF. The plane was immediately assumed hostile, both MR2 & MR3 were assigned the target. MR3 "locked on" first. 2 "birds" (standard - missiles) were loaded on the launcher, and the launcher was assigned to MR3. At that time the target was within only 1 - 2 seconds from being fired upon. It was a US F-4 phantom fighter. He detected our "intent to launch" and QUICKLY turned on his IFF. The launcher was unloaded (you don't want to leave live missiles on the rail when you're taking hostile fire from shore batteries!) and MR3 was then unassigned. IFF was the only thing that prevented us from firing at, and more than likely shooting down, one of our own aircraft. I guess my point is that having your IFF "turned off" doesn't really buy you anything, at least not in a "combat" situation. Perhaps in a "sneak attack" during peace time, when you would more than likely be given the benefit of the doubt, but not once a conflict has started. Anti-ship weapons (and their launch platforms) have become too sophisticated, their warheads too powerful, for a Captain to risk his ship & crew on being wrong. Dennis ------------------------------ Date: 12 Sep 88 22:44:06 GMT Return-Path: <@hercules.csl.sri.com,@sri-unix.UUCP,@hplabs,@nsc,@nsc,@taux01:amos@taux02.ether> From: amos@taux02.UUCP (Amos Shapir) Subject: Re: Disinterest in disaster not based on probability estimates Clifford Johnson (RISKS-7.51) complained about the public's disinterest in disasters vs. their interest in the lottery, even though the former's odds of occurring are much greater. I'm afraid the public's view is understandable even from the statistical point of view: the odds of winning the lottery are slim, but it does happen to somebody somewhere every week; a nuclear disaster is rare, and so far each of the few that did happen caused less casualties than a major airliner crash, and all the victims were concentrated in a small area. Anyone outside such an area is safe. It's this 'lumping' of consequences that distorts the calculation of statistical odds. Amos Shapir, National Semiconductor (Israel) P.O.B. 3007, Herzlia 46104, Israel Tel. +972 52 522261 TWX: 33691, fax: +972-52-558322 ------------------------------ Date: 12 Sep 88 22:35:54 GMT From: ddb%ns%bungia@umn-cs.cs.umn.edu (David Dyer-Bennet) Subject: ``MS-DOS "virus" programs do not exist.'' (Re: RISKS-7.49) In RISKS-7.49, Mark Moore writes about a public-domain software catalog containing an article claiming that MS-DOS "virus" programs do not exist. I view this with a certain glee, because for several years I've been attempting to follow up each story about viruses I hear; so far, the story has either faded into the distance, or I have been told that they have the virus isolated, but won't show it to me. While I accept that people running academic computer centers, in particular, have some justification for taking a paranoid attitude (though I wasn't approaching them from within as a student), I've been telling people for some time that by covering up viruses the way they do, they are going to lead people to believe it's all a myth, which in the long run is bad. So let me just say, "I told you so." to those who've been concealing the evidence. -- David Dyer-Bennet, Terrabit Software ...!{rutgers!dayton | amdahl!ems | uunet!rosevax}!umn-cs!ns!ddb ddb@Lynx.MN.Org, ...{amdahl,hpda}!bungia!viper!ddb Fidonet 1:282/341.0, (612) 721-8967 hst/2400/1200/300 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Sep 88 11:47:06 EDT From: ficc!peter@uunet.UU.NET Subject: Hiding payoff slot (Re: RISKS-7.42) > Modified games must have some sort of mechanism (either mechanical or human) > to pay off a win. ... jim frost The gambling mechanism already exists in most vending mchines these days, and could be easily justified as part of a videogame. This mechanism is a change slot. If the game gives change under computer control, it can easily be modified to handle the payoff as well. Also, many video-games these days have a 'challenge mode', where you can send in for a tee-shirt if you beat a particularly hard level. Perhaps this could be considered gambling? Peter da Silva, Ferranti International Controls Corporation ------------------------------ Date: Wed Sep 7 15:24:11 1988 From: karl%ficc@uunet.UU.NET Subject: Citation for "car engines become target for hackers" Readers seeking more information about car engine computer hacking are directed to the article "Electronics puts its foot on the gas" in the May 1988 issue of "IEEE Spectrum." The article profiles a couple of companies working in this area. While one company had reverse-engineered source code and was using in-circuit emulators to debug their changes, another was merely substituting values into an array they'd located. The tone of the article was not as negative as that quoted from "The Australian" by George Michaelson in RISKS DIGEST 7.39. A company specializing in BMWs had done a lot of business directly with dealers desperate to fix acceleration problems in some customers' cars. ------------------------------ End of RISKS-FORUM Digest 7.51 ************************