Subject: RISKS DIGEST 13.63 REPLY-TO: risks@csl.sri.com RISKS-LIST: RISKS-FORUM Digest Wednesday 8 July 1992 Volume 13 : Issue 63 FORUM ON RISKS TO THE PUBLIC IN COMPUTERS AND RELATED SYSTEMS ACM Committee on Computers and Public Policy, Peter G. Neumann, moderator Contents: Newsweek Vincennes article (Bob Frankston) Are bank machines private? (Andre Bacard) Virus consumes clerks at Sears (Kurt Guntheroth) GI Observations on IT Security Evaluation Manual (ITSEM) V0.2 (Kai Rannenberg) Voting by Phone in Nova Scotia (Evan Ravitz) When Cryptography is Outlawed... (Kurt Guntheroth) Re: computer-literate children find porn (Karl Lehenbauer) ESORICS 92: Preliminary Programme (Yves Deswarte) The RISKS Forum is moderated. Contributions should be relevant, sound, in good taste, objective, coherent, concise, and nonrepetitious. Diversity is welcome. CONTRIBUTIONS to RISKS@CSL.SRI.COM, with relevant, substantive "Subject:" line. Others may be ignored! Contributions will not be ACKed. 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Relevant contributions may appear in the RISKS section of regular issues of ACM SIGSOFT's SOFTWARE ENGINEERING NOTES, unless you state otherwise. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed 8 Jul 1992 14:02 -0400 From: Bob_Frankston@frankston.com Subject: Newsweek Vincennes article I'd be interested in comments on its accuracy. I won't comment on the larger issues of the "if it moves, shoot it" mentality. But as a systems designer I can understand the compromises made to meet the specs, but two small points stick in my mind. One is the image of a technician madly scanning through a dog-eared issue of the OAG (the article didn't mention a brand name) to find the Iranian flight. It's hard enough to not miss an entry when in a quiet airport in a single time zone. I realize that tracking civilian flights was not part of the normal battle plan, but I presume that the system has still not been updated to link to the civilian airline reservation systems or other such sources of information. One change in warfare, which I think the Gulf War illustrated, is how the commercial technology has, in many ways, surpassed the military. Of course, the online airline info might not be accurate which means a delayed flight could still have been missed. The other is that the tagging of the plane as an F-14 provided for no level of ambiguity. Even in the heat of battle, can the system cope with multiple interpretations of data or does it mindless lock in on a worst case and then present it to the befuddled user as fact? Of course, dealing with ambiguous information from many sources is a very difficult problem and, as this incident illustrates, neither the system nor the users are up to task. Conversely, what good is SDI if the incoming missiles all follow commercial airline schedules? [The article was based on a new report produced jointly by Newsweek and the ABC "Nightline" (and scheduled to be broadcast on ABC on 1 July). The report challenges the official U.S. account, claiming that U.S. forces had "provoked the episode". It also cites Admiral Crowe as confirming that the Vincennes was in Iranian waters at the time. The Pentagon replied that that was true, but only in self-defense. Source: NYTimes, 2 July 1992. For those of you who don't remember the technological aspects of the Aegis system, see my item recounting a discussion with Matt Jaffe in RISKS-8.74 (and a follow-on in 8.75). For anyone seriously interested in this bit of technohistory, I recommend your rereading the lead item in RISKS-8.74. PGN] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jul 92 15:01:04 -0700 From: Andre Bacard Subject: Are bank machines private? [I just returned from Paris, where I read the following article in the "European" newspaper. Hmm...] PIN Money for Thieves" Italian thieves have managed to pull off the world's most ingenious cash card fraud. A perfect replica of a bank cash dispenser was glued on top of the real thing and swallowed cards inserted by unsuspecting customers when they tried to withdraw money. Police say that the thieves collected 104 cards before staff at the bank, in Busto Arsizio, near Milan, were alerted. Normally a stolen bank card is useless without the owner's Personal Identification Number. But the thieves programmed their fake machine to request the customers' PIN numbers before telling them the card had been accidentally demagnetized and was being retained. After collecting the cards, the thieves then spent the night withdrawing money from genuine cash dispensers. A police spokesman said: "The thieves have been having a spree, withdrawing money with the credit cards and the right PIN numbers. They were obviously electronics experts." Andre Bacard, POBox 3009, Stanford, California 94309-3009 abacard@well.sf.ca.us (e-mail) (415) 897-6067 (voice) [Another variant on the old spoofing attack. PGN] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jul 92 14:49:57 PDT From: kurt@tc.fluke.com (Kurt Guntheroth) Subject: Virus consumes clerks at Sears My mother-in-law is a sales clerk at a Sears store in Everett Washington. I saw 25 new CompuAdd point-of-sale terminals in the back room. They're super techie, with a small CRT, ASCII keyboard, fancy strip printer, and mag card stripe reader. They were supposed to be installed months ago, but apparently they have a dose of the Michaelangelo virus. "Michaelangelo? On a terminal? Are you sure?" I asked. Needless to say, the answer was not too specific. She said it might also have been on a PC that configures the terminals, rather than the terminals themselves. Doesn't Michaelangelo only strike on one day of the year? All she knew was that they were "full of viruses" and could not be installed. Sears has its share of troubles these days, and apparently it is running so lean and mean that there is no one in the store with enough computer smarts to get things cleared up in the intervening months. So there they sit, depreciating. But they'll *sell* you a computer...If you dare...bwah ha ha! And you thought people who knew what viruses are were scared... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1992 21:30:44 +0200 From: Kai Rannenberg Subject: GI Observations on IT Security Evaluation Manual (ITSEM) V0.2 The Data Protection & Data Security Task Force of the German Gesellschaft fuer Informatik (GI) has again published a "Statement of Observations" concerning the IT Security Evaluation initiative driven by the Commission of the European Communities. This time the statement had to be made on the Information Technology Security Evaluation Manual (ITSEM) in its current Version 0.2. The ITSEM shall give help to evaluators and sponsors working with Information Technology Security Evaluation Criteria (ITSEC) and therefore are related quite closely to them. The current version 1.2 of ITSEC was subject of the last "Statement of Observations" the GI Task Force published in February 1992. Discussion of Criticism on ITSEM shall take place in Brussels (Belgium) from September 8th to September 10th 1992. Observations, criticism and proposals on ITSEM V0.2 concentrate on the following issues: (1) Lack of Correction of ITSEC problems (2) ITSEC needs much deeper and therefore more improvements than admitted in chapter 1.5. (3) Who oversees the Certification Bodies? (4) Several Classes of potential attackers are not covered. (5) Threats can not be enumerated and must be specified the other way round. (6) The discrimination between strength of mechanisms in only 3 classes (basic, medium or high) is very poor and not adequate. (7) Requirements for Tools and Techniques are missing. The full statement is posted to alt.security, comp.security.misc and probably comp.society.privacy. Kai Rannenberg, Technische Universitaet Berlin, Informatics, FR 5-10, Franklinstr. 28/29, D-W-1000 Berlin 10, Germany (+49 30) 314-73499 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jul 92 23:27:36 -0600 From: evanr@alumni.cs.colorado.edu (Evan Ravitz) Subject: Voting by Phone in Nova Scotia WORLD'S FIRST VOTING BY PHONE: JUNE 20 IN NOVA SCOTIA After an initial failure on June 6, the Liberal Party of Nova Scotia held a primary June 20 to elect its next leader: 94% of the 7416 delegates voted, all with touch-tone phones. Typical turnout for Canadian elections is 60-70%. The Liberals were issued Personal Identification Numbers by mail. For each of 2 ballots, voters called one of five 900 numbers corresponding to their choice of leader, and then keyed in their "PIN number". The computer then checked their number off so they couldn't vote again. John Savage won on the second ballot with almost 53% of the vote. The service was provided by Maritime Telephone & Telegraph and cost each voter 50 cents. The eight-digit PIN numbers enabled one to vote from any billable touch-tone phone: if you did't have touch- tone, you'd borrow your neighbor's. Absentee voting was as simple as picking up the phone, wherever you were. With this success, the Canadian government is considering a national referendum by phone on the results of their Constitutional Convention, within 6 months. The Federal Voter Assistance Program of the Pentagon is now considering voting by phone for servicemen, who had voting by fax from the Persian Gulf. But a $300 fax machine is overkill when a $10 touch-tone phone will do. The Program called the Voting by Phone Foundation of Boulder for their initial information. The Voting by Phone Foundation is now in a petition drive to put a charter amendment on November's Boulder City ballot. If passed Boulder would become the first city in the U.S. to offer the option of phone voting. Please call [Evan at] (303)444-3596 to help. The Foundation is holding a demonstration of voting by phone from now until the November 3rd election. Anyone may call (303)444-3596, 24 hours a day. If you are registered to vote in Boulder, you will be asked to enter your last name and birth date for identification. This limits you to one vote, although not as effectively as the random PIN number to be used for real elections. A different question will be asked every 2 weeks, and presidential [... rest truncated by Evan's mailer?] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jul 92 09:03:29 PDT From: kurt@tc.fluke.com (Kurt Guntheroth) Subject: When Cryptography is Outlawed... When Cryptography is Outlawed, Only Outlaws Will Have Cryptography The really difficult-to-understand part about the Federal Government's recent assault on cryptographic privacy is how the Feds think they'll keep cryptography out of the hands of criminals and Evil Foreign Governments. Now that the Feds have admitted that they have trouble decoding encrypted messages, any criminal or Evil Spy with a brain will be rushing to purchase the equipment. Criminals are hardly worried about breaking any law that says they can't keep their deeds a secret, and smuggling the technology into the country will hardly pose a problem to a reasonably proficient Drug Lord. Perhaps what the Feds are looking for is a new weapon of prosecution; use of cryptography is by definition a felony, and widespread use of cryptography is then by definition racketeering as defined by RICO. It's like bagging Capone for tax evasion, when he was too slippery to be caught breaking the law. I find this sloppiness unacceptable as a taxpayer. It's just like illegal weapons. The crooks have the Uzis and MAC-10s, and the cops have .38s. And the streets are nevertheless protected. I see a future where the world class criminals profit from breaking our insecure-by- legal-decree comm systems, preying on us law abiding citizens, while carrying out their business in unlawful security. Why can't the spies get wise? Technology is not static. If the phone becomes secure, there must be improvements in bugging or some other spook-versus-crook technology that could replace this information gathering avenue. How typical of our freedom-loving government to make keeping a secret felonious. [By the way, see the July issue of the CACM, which contains material some of which has appeared earlier in RISKS, plus a piece by John Perry Barlow and a a response to letters from Rivest, Hellman, and Anderson from John Lyons of NIST. PGN] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Jul 92 11:10:05 CDT From: karl@sugar.neosoft.com (Karl Lehenbauer) Subject: Re: computer-literate children find porn (RISKS-13.62) That same 15-year-old can see some pretty steamy R-rated movies on his family's cable TV movie channels, or over at his friends. He can trade videotapes. Many mainstream magazines, such as Vogue, purchasable over the counter by anyone, contain photographs of partially nude women. It would be tragic if heavy legal restrictions placed on "computer porn", when it is so difficult to police users' actions and impossible to monitor all activity on any moderately large BBS in any case, and when "pornography" is so readily available to everyone through so many other channels, for many of which no attempt is made to validate the recipient's age at all. With the ongoing fusion of communications technologies such as computers, telephones and television, the restrictions' boundaries would broaden to encompass more and more of the technologies available to us to communicate with. Further, since the technology for copying and forwarding images (video, PC, etc) is so pervasive, enforcement would be spotty and selective, with many innocent people, for example those whose systems were unknowingly used to further these peoples' purposes, caught in the net. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jul 92 10:08:07 +0200 From: deswarte@laas.laas.fr (Yves Deswarte) Subject: ESORICS 92: Preliminary Programme Please find enclosed the preliminary ESORICS 92 programme in its ASCII English version. PostScript versions of the full programme can be accessed by ftp at "laas.laas.fr" (140.93.0.15), in files : ~ftp/pub/esorics/PGM.PS : PostScript file without laserprep ~ftp/pub/esorics/PGM.PS.Z : idem in compressed form (binary) ~ftp/pub/esorics/PGM.PS.long : PostScript file with laserprep ~ftp/pub/esorics/PGM.PS.long.Z : idem in compressed form (binary) If you wish to receive a paper copy, drop me mail. Yves ===== Yves Deswarte - LAAS-CNRS & INRIA - 31077 Toulouse (France) ===== ==== E-mail:deswarte@laas.fr - Tel:+33/61336288 - Fax:+33/61336411 ==== ESORICS 92 Preliminary Programme European Symposium on Research in Computer Security November 23-25, 1992, Toulouse, France Computer security is concerned with the protection of information in environments where there is a possibility of intrusion or malicious action. The aim of ESORICS is to further the progress of research in computer security by establishing a European forum for bringing together researchers in this area, by promoting the exchange of ideas with system developers and by encouraging links with researchers in related areas. To achieve this aim under the best conditions, ESORICS 92 will be a single track symposium and the selected papers will be presented in a conference hall whose capacity is 290 attendees. ESORICS 92 is the second symposium of a series started with ESORICS 90 held in Toulouse in October, 1990. Symposium Chair: Gerard Eizenberg (ONERA/CERT, France) Organized by AFCET In Cooperation with BCS The British Computer Society CNRS Centre National de la Recherche Scientifique DISSI Delegation Interministerielle pour la Securite des Systemes d'Information DRET Direction des Recherches Etudes et Techniques ERCIM European Research Consortium for Informatics and Mathematics GI Gesellschaft fur Informatik IEE Institute of Electrical Engineers INRIA Institut National de Recherche en Informatique et Automatique NGI Nederlands Genootschap voor Informatica PROGRAMME Monday, November 23, 1992 9:00-10:30 Registration and welcome coffee 10:30-11:00 Introduction to ESORICS 92 11:00-12:30 Session: Access Control Towards security in an open systems federation (John A. Bull, Li Gong, Karen R. Sollins) Type-level access controls for distributed structurally object-oriented database systems (Udo Kelter) On the Chinese wall model (Volker Kessler) 12:30-14:15 Lunch 14:15-15:45 Session: Formal Methods Formal methods and automated tool for timing-channel identification in TCB source code (Jingsha He, Virgil D. Gligor) Separating the specification and implementation phases in cryptography (Marie-Jeanne Toussaint) Formal specification of security requirements using the theory of normative positions (Andrew J. I. Jones, Marek Sergot) 15:45-16:15 Break 16:15-17:45 Invited Talks Roger Needham: Key management (to be confirmed) Yvo Desmedt: Different views on security 18:00-... Buffet 18:30-... Poster Session [ESORICS 92 will include Poster Sessions devoted to presentations on work in progress, recent research results and innovative proposals. These poster sessions will be held in rooms with paperboards and poster supports, these rooms being available at any time from the beginning to the end of the symposium. If you are interested in posting a presentation, please submit a short description of your presentation with your registration before September 30, 1992. Notification of acceptance or rejection will be sent by October 25, 1992]. PROGRAMME Tuesday, November 24, 1992 8:30- 9:00 Welcome coffee 9:00-10:30 Session: Authentication I Verification and modelling of authentication protocols (Ralf C. Hauser, E. Stewart Lee) KryptoKnight authentication and key distribution system (Refik Molva, Gene Tsudik, Els Van Herreweghen, Stefano Zatti) Associating metrics to certification paths (Anas Tarah, Christian Huitema) 11:00-12:30 Session: Distributed Systems An object-oriented view of fragmented data processing for fault and intrusion tolerance in distributed systems (Jean-Charles Fabre, Brian Randell) The development and testing of the identity-based conference key distribution system for the RHODOS distributed system (M. Wang, A. Goscinski) Policy enforcement in stub autonomous domains (Gene Tsudik) 14:15-15:45 Session: Authentication II Freshness assurance of authentication protocols (Kwok-Yan Lam, Dieter Gollmann) A formal framework for authentication (Colin Boyd) Timely authentication in distributed systems (Kwok-Yan Lam, Thomas Beth) 16:15-17:00 Invited Talk Yvon Klein: What research for security evaluation ? 17:00-18:15 Panel: Availability and Integrity 18:30-... Poster Session 20:00-... Banquet PROGRAMME Wednesday, November 25, 1992 8:30- 9:00 Welcome coffee 9:00-10:30 Session: Database Security Polyinstantiation for cover stories (Ravi S. Sandhu, Sushil Jajodia) On transaction processing for multilevel secure replicated databases (I. E. Kang, T. F. Keefe) Security constraint processing in multilevel secure AMAC schemata (G. Pernul) 11:00-12:00 Session: System Architectures M2S: A machine for multilevel security (Bruno d'Ausbourg, Jean-Henri Llareus) GDoM, a multilevel document manager (Christel Calas) 13:45-15:15 Session: Applications UEPS - A second generation electronic wallet (Ross J. Anderson) A hardware design model for cryptographic algorithms (Joan Daemen, Rene Govaerts, Joos Vandewalle) ASAX: Software architecture and rule-based language for universal audit trail analysis (Naji Habra, B. Le Charlier, A. Mounji, I. Mathieu) 15:15-15:30 Closing Remarks Programme Committee: Jean-Jacques Quisquater (UCL, Belgium), Chair Bruno d'Ausbourg (ONERA-CERT, France) Joachim Biskup (Universitat Hildesheim, Germany) Peter Bottomley (RSRE, United Kingdom) Yvo Desmedt (University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee, USA) Yves Deswarte (LAAS-CNRS & INRIA, France) Gerard Eizenberg (ONERA-CERT, France) Amos Fiat (University of Tel-Aviv, Israel) Dieter Gollmann (University of London, United Kingdom) Franz-Peter Heider (GEI, Germany) Jeremy Jacob (Oxford University, United Kingdom) Helmut Kurth (IABG, Germany) Jean-Claude Laprie (LAAS-CNRS, France) Peter Landrock (Aarhus University, Denmark) Teresa Lunt (SRI, USA) John McDermid (University of York, United Kingdom) John McLean (NRL, USA) Catherine Meadows (NRL, USA) Jonathan Millen (MITRE, USA) Emilio Montolivo (Fondazione Ugo Bordoni, Italy) Roger Needham (University of Cambridge, United Kingdom) Alfredo de Santis (Universita di Salerno, Italy) Einar Snekkenes (NDRE, Norway) Marie-Jeanne Toussaint (Universite de Liege, Belgium) Kioumars Yazdanian (ONERA-CERT, France) Organization Committee: Yves Deswarte (LAAS-CNRS & INRIA, France), Chair Laurent Cabirol (SCSSI, France) Jean-Francois Cornet (Consultant, France) Michel Dupuy (ENST, France) Marie-Therese Ippolito (LAAS-CNRS, France) Marie-France Kalogera (AFCET, France) Paul Richy (CNET, France) Pierre Rolin (ENSTA, France) Kioumars Yazdanian (ONERA-CERT, France) GENERAL INFORMATION Symposium Location: Hotel Palladia 271 avenue de Grande Bretagne, 31300 Toulouse, France telephone: +33 62 120 120, fax: +33 62 120 121 Hotel Palladia is located in the west district of Toulouse, 5 km from city centre. 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