The F I D O N E W S Volume 18, Number 53 31 Dec 2001 +--------------------------+-----------------------------------------+ | |The newsletter of the | | Fido, Fidonet and dog-with-diskette are | | | FidoNet community. | | US Registered Trademarks of Tom Jennings| | | | | San Francisco, California, USA | | | ____________| | | | | / __ | Crash Netmail Articles To: | | | / / \ | Editor@1:1/23 (1-972-562-8064) | | | WOOF! ( /|oo \ | Frank Vest@1:124/6308 | | \_______\(_| /_) | or E-Mail (attach) To: | | _ @/_ \ _ | fidonews@sbcglobal.net | | | | \ \\ | | | | (*) | \ ))| Editor: Frank Vest | | |__U__| / \// | Deputy-Editor: Lawrence Garvin | | ______ _//|| _\ / | | | / Fido \ (_/(_|(____/ | Newspapers should have no friends. | | (________) (jm) | -- JOSEPH PULITZER | +--------------------------+-----------------------------------------+ Copyright 2001 by Fidonews Editor for Fidonews Globally. Table of Contents 1. [ FOOD FOR THOUGHT ] ..................................... 1 2. [ INSIDE ] ............................................... 2 The Fidonews at a Glance ................................. 2 3. [ GENERAL ARTICLES ] ..................................... 3 Catcalls from the Cheap Seats ............................ 3 Most Important Body Part....Not just the Heart ........... 5 Flickering Light ......................................... 6 4. [ OL'WDB'S COLUMN - WARREN BONNER ] ...................... 8 Tater People ............................................ 8 5. [ HUMOR IN A FIDO VEIN ] ................................. 9 The Meaning of FidoNet – The Miracle of Hatching: Seenb .. 9 6. [ COMIX IN ASCII ] ....................................... 12 P4.07 .................................................... 12 7. [ SPECIAL INTEREST ] ..................................... 13 L.O.R.D Tournament ....................................... 13 Nodelist Stats ........................................... 13 8. [ TODD COCHRANE'S FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING ] ............. 15 Fidonet Software List .................................... 15 9. [ JOE JARED'S FIDONET BY INTERNET ] ...................... 19 Fidonet-related sites .................................... 19 10. [ FIDONEWS INFORMATION ] ................................ 25 How to Submit an Article ................................. 25 Credits, Legal Infomation, Availability .................. 26 FIDONEWS 18-53 Page 1 31 Dec 2001 ================================================================= [ FOOD FOR THOUGHT ] ================================================================= "A journey of a thousand miles begins with a cash advance." ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 18-53 Page 2 31 Dec 2001 ================================================================= [ INSIDE ] ================================================================= The Fidonews at a Glance In the "General Articles section, we are once again joined by Luke Kolin with a "compliment?" on the Fidonews and it's Editor as well as his look at last week's article(s). See "Catcalls from the Cheap Seats". Warren Bonner submits "Most Important Body Part....Not just the Heart". A look at friendship. Andrea Santos visits us with "Flickering Light". A look at the User's role in Fidonet and how that is affected by the Nodes in Fidonet. Warren Bonner's Column this week is "Tater People". It qualifies more as a "Humor" article, but some of it rings true in Fidonet as well. The "Humor in a Fido Vein" this week is another installment by Dale Ross entitled "The Meaning of FidoNet – The Miracle of Hatching: Seenbys: The Z1EC" The Comix this week seems intended to make a point. In the "Special Interest" area, Shannon Talley announces a new L.O.R.D. Tournament" ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 18-53 Page 3 31 Dec 2001 ================================================================= [ GENERAL ARTICLES ] ================================================================= Catcalls from the Cheap Seats By Luke Kolin Sir: Let me take a moment to commend you on your fine publication. Despite its advanced age, you've managed to in your Christmas issue rekindle the fading embers of vicious Fido warfare that have slowly been fading away through inactivity and entropy. A finer gift for Christmas I could not imagine. I must now confess that your article on the potential problems of eliminating geogrpahic restrictions leaves me somewhat confused. Usually, I can determine the "serious" articles in FidoNews if they make me laugh - and the comedies by the glazing over of my eyes six lines in as I frantically search for my Page Down key. Your article I cannot easily place. Perhaps you are following my earlier suggestion for "retro night" in the Snooze, by reprinting one of the countless "Is the Nodelist getting too big?" articles. I recall that this spurious concern was used by numerous elf-lord co-ordinators in their ruthless zeal to trim out all duplicate and unncessary nodes from the nodelist in times past. Considering their unimaginable success, based on the relentless decline in the nodelist, I am puzzled as to why this is still a concern. Of course, you may be serious. Getting nodes listed in every single net, region and zone would be an excellent way for FidoNet to confront and reverse its numbers problem. It's not a solution that I had previously thought of, but it is remarkable in its simplicity and ease of accomplishment. I am unfamiliar with the technology (having left FidoNet when there was a limit of 16 or so AKA addresses in an EMSI header) but I am sure the fine folks who wrote the Y2K patches for Fido 12w could be called upon again to raise this arbitrary limit. Then again, sir, I feel your article may be satire or farce. The part where you attempt to inject some "reality" into the argument by suggesting that there was a vast unsated demand for additional FidoNet addresses only kept in check by the continual vigilance of the co-odinator structure brightened up an otherwise frigid December day. Coupled with your horrified surprise that groups of like-minded individuals may choose to associate together in their own organisational group, a strong case may be made for recategorising your aticle in the 'Jokes in ASCII' section. Let me draw your attention to the circa 1991 saga of Nets 163 and 243 in the Ottawa area, two geographically overlapping networks whose fluid membership was entirely composed on sysops annoyed at the other network's NC. Toronto was but a political backwater at the time, but within four years I am proud to say that our political consciousness had reached Ottawa's level and we had our own overlapping network (2424), which was able to encroach on the geographic area of no fewer than four nets in Region 12. FIDONEWS 18-53 Page 4 31 Dec 2001 I would be remiss if I did not seek to horrify Philip Lozier by recounting a vignette from my vacation in Hawaii several months ago. At the time, a colleague of mine called me using a cellular phone (in the 703 area code) from Manhattan (in the 212 area code). He called my cell phone (in the 404 area code, but I really live in the 770 and 678 area codes) when I was on the beach in Maui (God only knows what area code). Let me allow Phil to take some consolation by telling him that this geographic exemption was only temporary, and by no means was I able to make it permanent. You may not want to publish the fact that this call did not cost either one of us a penny, as I am sure it would push Philip over the edge and cause him to picket the FCC in Washington, protesting the continual introduction of overlapping area codes in major metropolitan areas and demanding a federal law prohibiting the transportation of cellular phones across state lines or area code boundaries. Of course, this behavior is entirely within character for FidoNet. The deep freeze I remarked about a few weeks ago appears not to be limited to Region 12, as Philip seems blissfully unaware of developments in the telecoms industry that make it cheaper to call across the country (or internationally, in some cases) than into the next county. Nevertheless, it seems important for FidoNet to maintan an organisational structure designed in the early 1980s for the simple reason that Ditto-heads like Philip would be unable to decide what to do each morning without the comforting blanket of the old world, the old rules and the old FidoNet to snuggle up with. It reminds me of the time Jim Rysyk told me in late 1995 that this Web thing was just a passing fad, and once it collapsed there'd be a new renaissance for his 1-line 9600 baud TBBS system. Despite the dot-com implosion, I have yet to see masses of unemployed Photoshop designers paying to relearn the lost art of ANSI graphics. Of course, if it turns out that I am incorrect, a network that hasn't willingly accepted a single technical advancement since 1991 will be in perfect shape when the $2 trillion worth of Internet investment gets thrown out the window. Perhaps I am being unfair to him. I'm sure someone can do a search for my name in the "political database" and come up with some of my rulings as RC that had every bit of the 19-year-old armchair lawyer in them as Philip's article. I am looking forward to his latest legal treatsie, arguing that since US indepndence was granted by an Act of the British Parliament in 1783 after the Treaty of Paris, an aye vote by Tony Blair and 300 of his Labour lapdogs might bring back the colonies and give the United States a true hereditary monarchy, instead of the pale imitation it has today. Rules are, after all, rules. Sincerely, Luke Kolin Roswell, Georgia PS: Frank, it just occurred to me as I was re-reading the bottom of Philip's article, with his references to "rogues" and "chaos". His article is the retro reprint, from early 1987 when AlterNet was just getting started, and we couldn't have "rogue" FTNs because it would lead to "chaos"? Am I right? FIDONEWS 18-53 Page 5 31 Dec 2001 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Most Important Body Part....Not just the Heart Email from: Alan Malmberg Submitted by: wdbonner@pacbell.net My mother used to ask me what is the most important part of the body. Through the years I would take a guess at what I thought was the correct answer. When I was younger, I thought sound was very important to us as humans, so I said, 'My ears, Mommy.' She said, 'No. Many people are deaf. But you keep thinking about it and I will ask you again soon.' Several years passed before she asked me again. Since making my first attempt, I had contemplated the correct answer. So this time I told her, 'Mommy, sight is very important to everybody, so it must be our eyes'. She looked at me and told me, 'You are learning fast, but the answer is not correct because there are many people who are blind.' Stumped again, I continued my quest for knowledge and over the years, Mother asked me a couple more times and always her answer was, 'No. But you are getting smarter every year, my child.' Then last year, my grandpa died. Everybody was hurt. Everybody was crying. Even my father cried. I remember that especially because it was only the second time I saw him cry. My Mom looked at me when it was our turn to say our final good-bye to Grandpa. She asked me, 'Do you know the most important body part yet, my dear?' I was shocked when she asked me this now. I always thought this was a game between her and me. She saw the confusion on my face and told me, 'This question is very important. It shows that you have really lived in your life. For every body part you gave me in the past, I have told you was wrong and I have given you an example why. But today is the day you need to learn this important lesson.' She looked down at me as only a mother can. I saw her eyes well up with tears. She said, 'My darling, the most important body part is your shoulder.' I asked, 'Is it because it holds up your head?' She replied, 'No, it is because it can hold the head of a friend or a loved one when they cry. Everybody needs a shoulder to cry on sometime in life, my girl. I only hope that you have enough love and friends that you will always have a FIDONEWS 18-53 Page 6 31 Dec 2001 shoulder to cry on when you need it.' Then and there I knew the most important body part is not a selfish one. It is sympathetic to the pain of others. People will forget what you said....... People will forget what you did........ But people will NEVER forget how you made them feel. ~~~~~~~~~~~0~~~~~~~~~~ ----------------------------------------------------------------- Flickering Light By Andrea Santos asantos@santronics.com The uprisings seen of late in the Zone admin echos are nothing new. They've been going on since the beginning of Fidonet and will continue on until the final light flickers dim. Proportionately, even today, it's an infintesmal group of nodes who make an incredible amount of noise, sufficient to drown out the majority who never have, and never will, have an interest in anything other than receiving their mail and enjoying their hobby. Over time, the players change, but the motives remain the same. For the squabbling players, the admin echos, quite simply, provide a reason to hang on to a node number and hence membership in Fidonet. What other explanation can there be for nodes who operate a Mail Only machine and spend 95% of their time in echos where no users are found, arguing over matters of which they have no legitimate technical or administrative concern? These same nodes will complain endlessly that Fidonet is running itself into the ground, but do absolutely nothing, per their actions, to effect change. There can be no misinterpretation of Policy 4, whether viewed as a guideline, or biblical verse, with regard to multiple listings in more than 1 Region. It does't happen and the reason it doesn't happen is because there isn't a single node in the network who can put forth a "TECHNICAL" reason why it should! Obviously, geography cannot be the rationale because no node can reside in two places simultaneously, so the argument must be based on technical concerns which don't apply. Any other argument would fall outside the bounds of Policy 4, period. Now, if it is ever determined to toss out technical merit, where multiple listings are granted at will, the end result will mirror the problems seen with the Internet, where address after address "bounces back" as undeliverable. Such events would render the Nodelist address book fairly useless and clearly defeat the smooth operation of any Net, Region, Zone and, hence, Fidonet. I won't even bother to address the secondary issue of RVIA flags because there are few, if any, nodes who can justify their necessity. What I will address instead is why Fidonet continues to flounder and it has little to do with who is or isn't the Net, Regional or Zone Coordinator, how many listings a node has, or where, or what flags FIDONEWS 18-53 Page 7 31 Dec 2001 they fly, but the inordinate amount of time wasted in Admin echos on the above subjects, as well as rehashing previously hashed-to-death incidents, rather than contributing to echos where USERS are on hand and getting more users to participate in the network. When that last user turns out the lights, there will be no more Fidonet! If you are an active Node in Network, why not ask yourself what you are doing to keep the light on? ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 18-53 Page 8 31 Dec 2001 ================================================================= [ OL'WDB'S COLUMN - WARREN BONNER ] ================================================================= Ol'WDB's Column wdbonner@pacbell.net Tater People Some people never seem motivated to participate, but are just content to watch while others do the work. They are called "Speck Taters". Some people never do anything to help, but are gifted at finding fault with the way others do the work. They are called "Comment Taters". Some people are very bossy and like to tell others what to do, but don't want to soil their own hands. They are called "Dick Taters". Some people are always looking to cause problems by asking others to agree with them. "It is too hot or too cold, too sour or too sweet". They are called "AggieTaters". There are those who say they will help, but somehow just never get around to actually doing what they promised. They are called "Hezzie Taters". Some people can put up a front and pretend to be someone they are not. They are called "Emma Taters". Then there are those who love others and do what they say they will. They are always prepared to stop whatever they are doing and lend a helping hand. They bring real sunshine into the lives of others. They are called "Sweet Taters". And some folks in "Fight-O-Net" are known for bashing *C's, Ripping policy to shreds and demeaning others not in their "Click". They are known as "Mashed Taters". Lastly, there are those that rave at everyone who dares to ask a question, or make a statement about anything, and are negative about everything... They are known as "Bombastically Scalloped Taters". hee-heh With Warm Regards, Ol'wdb ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 18-53 Page 9 31 Dec 2001 ================================================================= [ HUMOR IN A FIDO VEIN ] ================================================================= The Meaning of FidoNet – The Miracle of Hatching: Seenbys: The Z1EC I cannot take credit for the following jewel. Credit belongs to Carl Austin Bennett. I think he did a fantastic job applying this to Seenby-gate. What do you need to know to understand this scene? The idea comes from Monty Python's movie: The Meaning of Life - The Miracle of Birth: Part 2: The Third World. If you have not seen the movie then rent it! From what I understand this scene cost more to produce than the movie Monty Python and the Holy Grail. And now, The Miracle of Hatching: Seenbys: The Z1EC The latest dance tune... foxtrot, evidently: There are Geeks in the world, There are Eggheads, There are Crackers and Warezd00dz and then, There are those that follow Microsoft, But I've never been one of them... I'm a Zone Echo Co-ordinator, And stuff SEEN-BY's whenever I'm bored, And the one thing they say about Krackheads, Is they'll take you as soon as you're warm... You don't have to be a six-footer, You don't have to have any cache, You don't have to have any credibility - You're a ZEC the moment you hatch... Because... Every SEEN-BY's sacred, Every SEEN-BY's great, If a SEEN-BY's wasted, Jan gets quite irate. Children: Every SEEN-BY's sacred, Every SEEN-BY's great, If a SEEN-BY's wasted, Jan gets quite irate. Child: [solo] Let the heathen spill theirs, Among the backbone dust, Jan shall make them pay for Each node that won't be stuffed. Children: Every SEEN-BY's wanted, Every SEEN-BY's good, FIDONEWS 18-53 Page 10 31 Dec 2001 Every SEEN-BY's needed, In your neighbourhood. Mum: [solo] Hackers, Telnet Morons, Save theirs just anywhere, But Jan loves those who stuff their SEEN-BY's with more care. Men neighbours: [peering out of toilets] Every SEEN-BY's sacred, Every SEEN-BY's great, Women neighbours: [on wall] If a SEEN-BY's wasted, Children: Jan get quite irate. Priest: [in church] Every SEEN-BY's sacred, Bride and Groom: Every SEEN-BY's good. Nannies: Every SEEN-BY's needed. Cardinals: [in prams] In your neighbourhood! Children: Every SEEN-BY's useful, Every SEEN-BY's fine, Funeral Cortege: Jan needs everybody's, First Mourner: Mine! Lady Mourner: And mine! Corpse: And mine! Nun: [solo] Though the backbones spill theirs, O'er mountain, hill and plain, Various artefacts in a Regional *Cass-whole's Souvenir Shop: Jan shall strike them down for Each SEEN-BY spilt in vain. Everybody: Every SEEN-BY's sacred, Every SEEN-BY's good, Every SEEN-BY's needed, In your neighbourhood. Even more than everybody, including two fire-eaters, a juggler, a clown at a piano and a stilt-walker riding a bicycle: Every SEEN-BY's sacred, Every SEEN-BY's great, If a SEEN-BY's wasted, Jan gets quite irate. [Everybody cheers (including the fire-eaters, the FIDONEWS 18-53 Page 11 31 Dec 2001 juggler, the clown at the piano and the stilt-walker riding the bicycle). Fireworks go off, a Chinese dragon is brought on and flags of all nations are unfurled overhead.] ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 18-53 Page 12 31 Dec 2001 ================================================================= [ COMIX IN ASCII ] ================================================================= /+^^^+ / '\ /' / /' P4.07 \ /' / _-. _.._ _.-'` / .-; \ \-'` ` _..-' / - _.-\_\-'`__...__..' -' __.--'` / _.'` \_ _/ | \ ; \ .-'```'-. \" \ / " " \ \" \| ".--.--. | \_ ; / _ _ \ ; | ( ( e _ e ) ) \ '-| T |-'_ \" \ = /" `\ \ '-...-' , " \ Y " " \ \ |" . " \ " \ | " _.-' " ) \ "/\._;' "_.;` \_\_\.> ".''` | /_/|_) .' " /---.. \ '--' " " `\ .-""-.> " , " | / " " " | / \ " \ " _.`--...-'| "/ '." \.-' / " .' '-. " \ __.' .' jgs ) `\ (_ "( / /\_) `\ \ (((_/ \_))) +---------------+ | FidoNet | +---------------+ ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 18-53 Page 13 31 Dec 2001 ================================================================= [ SPECIAL INTEREST ] ================================================================= L.O.R.D Tournament By SHANNON TALLEY 1:275/311 December 27, 2001 -=-=- Come one -=-=- Come All -=-= To the Thieves -=-=- To the warriors -=-=- To the wizards who dabble in magic! -=-= A call to arms has begun!! -=-= FidoTel proudly sponsors a "New Year's 2002" Legend of the Red Dragon Tournament! The tournament will last "6 deeds or 21 days". It will begin at 0900(EST) on Tuesday, 1 January 2001. The Winner of the tournament will receive a beautiful dragon statue!! Some come on, log in, and "Enjoy!!" Click http://www.fidotel.com/public/lord for details and pictures of the prize! http://www.fidotel.com/public/lord http://www.fidotel.com telnet://telnet.fidotel.com ----------------------------------------------------------------- Nodelist Stats INPUT NODELIST FILE : NODELIST.362 File has a Date Stamp of : 12/28/2001 File Size (uncompressed) : 1169.70 KBytes. The Input Nodelist file has 10556 Nodes in it and a total of 13769 non-comment entries. The list has 6 Zones listed. 65 Region Coordinators listed. 483 Network Hosts listed. 730 Hubs listed. 336 DOWN Nodes listed. 907 PRIVATE Nodes listed. 686 HOLD Nodes listed. Administrative overhead = 1284 ( 12.16 %) PRIVATE NODES overhead = 907 ( 8.59 %) Baud Rate Summary (or, BPS, for the die-hard technocrats): 9600 = 9009 ( 85.34 %) (HST's = 184 or 2.04 % of the 9600 baud modems.) (CSP's = 1 or 0.01 % of the 9600 baud modems.) FIDONEWS 18-53 Page 14 31 Dec 2001 (PEP's = 14 or 0.16 % " " " " ) (MAX's = 0 or 0.00 % " " " " ) (HAY's = 2 or 0.02 % " " " " ) (V32's = 5065 or 56.22 % " " " " ) (V32B's = 574 or 6.37 % " " " " ) (V42's = 4863 or 53.98 % " " " " ) (V42B's = 620 or 6.88 % " " " " ) 2400 = 109 ( 1.03 %) 1200 = 6 ( 0.06 %) 300 = 469 ( 4.44 %) ---------------------------------------------------------- F_Req Flag Applicable Software Number of Systems ---------------------------------------------------------- XA Frontdoor <1.99b 3965 Frontdoor 2.02+ Dutchie 2.90c Binkleyterm >2.1 D'Bridge <1.3 TIMS -------------------------------------- XB Binkleyterm 2.0 9 Dutchie 2.90b -------------------------------------- XC Opus 1.1 11 -------------------------------------- XP Seadog 7 -------------------------------------- XR Opus 1.03 69 -------------------------------------- XW Fido >12M 405 Tabby -------------------------------------- XX D'Bridge 1.30 4583 Frontdoor 1.99b,2.01 -------------------------------------- CrashMail capable = 3642 ( 34.50 %) MailOnly Nodes = 5598 ( 53.03 %) Listed-Only Nodes = 813 ( 7.70 %) ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 18-53 Page 15 31 Dec 2001 ================================================================= [ TODD COCHRANE'S FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING ] ================================================================= Fidonet Software List By Todd Cochrane Type: B=BBS D=Door M=Mailer T=Tosser C=Communication (terminal) U=Utility P=Point Software I=Internet (telnet, BinkP...) <+-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+=-=+=-=-+-=-=+=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+> ( Software Name ) |Type| ( Author/Contact ) <+-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+=-=|=-=-|-=-=+=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+> |BBBS Home Page |B | b@bbbs.net | | | | www.bbbs.net/ | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |ELEBBS The Elevator |B | elebbs@elebbs.com | |Software Production | | www.elebbs.com | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |Hermes II Project |B | info@HermesII.org | | | | http://www.hermesii.org/ | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |Maximus BBS Support |B | sales@lainus.com | |Page (Non Official) | | http://www.vector11.com/maximus/ | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |MBSE BBS |B | Michiel Broek | | | | mbroek@users.sourceforge.net | | | | http://mbse.sourceforge.net | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |Mystic BBS |B | http://www.mysticbbs.com/mystic/ | | | | | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |Nexus Bulletin |B | groberts@nexusbbs.net | |Board System | | http://www.nexusbbs.net/ | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |Proboard, Searchlight, |BC | info@telegrafix.com | |Telegrafix | | http://www.telegrafix.com | |Communications | | 540-678-4050 | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |RemoteAccess |B | Bruce Morse | |Central | | bfmorse@rapro.com | | | | http://www.rapro.com/ | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |Spitfire BBS |B | MDWoltz@AOL.COM | |Buffalo Creek Software | |http://www.angelfire.com/ia/buffalo/ | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |Synchronet BBS |BT | sysop@vert.synchro.net | | | | http://www.synchro.net | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |Telegard BBS |B | support@telegard.net | | | | http://www.telegard.net/ | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |Wildcat Interactive |BTMI| sales@santronics.com | |Net Server | | http://www.santronics.com | FIDONEWS 18-53 Page 16 31 Dec 2001 |Plantinum Express | |(305)248-3204 | | | | Santronics Inc. | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |Bentstone Capabilities |D | info@stonebenders.com | |Group | | http://www.srupc.com/mall | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |Jibben Software |D | scott@jibben.com | | | | http://www.jibbensoftware.com/ | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |JNS Software Door Games|D | Rusty Johnson | | | | rustyjohnson57@hotmail.com | | | | 304-733-0113 | | | | http://www.geocities.com/jnssoftware/ | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |Legend Of The Red |D | | |Dragon Reborn | | | |(L.O.R.D.) | | http://www.lordlegacy.org/ | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |PC Pursuits |D |brucep@pop.kis.net | | | |(301)240-6653 | | | |http://www.pcpursuits.com/products.htm | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |S and T Software |D |Mark Bappe | | | |mark.bappe@bozax.iainc.net | | | |(770)788-6843 | | | |http://bozax.iainc.net/public/ | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |Shinning Star BBS Doors|D |nannette@shiningstar.net | | | |http://www.shiningstar.net/bbsdoors/ | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |Sunrise Door Software |D |Al Lawerence | | | |al@sunrisedoors.com | | | |(404)256-9518 | | | |http://www.sunrisedoors.com/ | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |The Brainex System |D |info@brainex.com | | | |http://www.brainex.com/brainex_system/ | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |Trade Wars Door Game |D |jpritch@eisonline.com | | | |http://www.eisonline.com/tradewars/ | | | |1:299/110 | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |Vagabond Software |D |Bryan Turner | | | |vagabond@darktech.org | | | |http://vagabond.virtualave.net/ | | | |1:124/7013 | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |FMail Support |T |wijnstra@fmail.nl.eu.org | | | |http://fmail.nl.eu.org/ | | | |2:280/1076 | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |Squish Tosser |T |http://www.lanius.com/squish.htm | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |Argus RITLABS |M |argus@ritlabs.com | | | |373-2-246889 | | | |http://www.ritlabs.com/argus/ | FIDONEWS 18-53 Page 17 31 Dec 2001 | | |2:469/84 | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |FrontDoor |MTPC|Definite Solutions | |FrontDoor APX | |sales@defsol.se | |Mailer/Point Software | |http://www.defsol.se/ | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |BeeMail Home Page |M |http://beemail.gexonline.net | | | |Stephen Proffit | | | |1:211/405 | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |BinkleyTerm XE |M |http://btxe.sourceforge.net/ | |Frontend Mailer | | | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |BinkD |MI |maloff@corbina.net | | | |http://2f.ru/binkd/ | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |Fidogate |UIT |Martin_Junius@m-j-s.net | | | |http://www.fidogate.org/ | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |Fidonet to Internet |MI |Bo Bendtsen | |Mailer | |sales@terminate.com | | | |http://www.terminate.com/fido2int.htm | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |GiGo Software |UI |http://www.gigo.com/ | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |Internet Rex |MI |cruden@cs.ualberta.ca | | | |http://plaza.v-wave.com/InternetRex/ | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |Tmail |I |http://www.tmail.spb.ru/index-19.htm | |(Russian /w English DL)| | | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |TransX Multiboard |M |support@multiboard.com | |Communications Inc. | |http://www.multiboard.com/software/ | | | |transx.html | | | |1:2401/305 | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |TransNet |I |transnet@ressl.com.ar | | | |http://www.ressl.com.ar/transnet/ | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |Watergate |I |ramon@sbbs.se | | | |http://www2.sbbs.se/hp/ramon/ | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |JetSys-Home of JetMail |TU |http://www.jetsys.de/ | |JetStat and other Atari| | | |Fidonet utilities | | | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |APoint (Author) |P |http://www.apoint.websale.net/index.htm| | | |http://www.apoint-mail.de (Co-Autho) | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |CrossPoint |P |("Original" version) | | | |http://www.crosspoint.de | | | |http://www.apoint-mail.de | | | |(OpenXP Projekt) | | | |http://www.openxp.com (English) | | | |http://www.openxp.de (German) | | | |CrossPoint (XP2 Team) | FIDONEWS 18-53 Page 18 31 Dec 2001 | | |http://www.xp2.de | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |WinPoint95 |P |http://www.schenksmir.de/wp/english | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |The OpenXP CrossPoint |P |http://www.happyarts.de/xp | |Projekt | | | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |Terminate Terminal |P |http://www.terminate.com | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |PPoint-FTS compatible |P |http://www.alcuf.ca/ppoint.htm | |E-Mail System | | | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| \====================================================================/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 18-53 Page 19 31 Dec 2001 ================================================================= [ JOE JARED'S FIDONET BY INTERNET ] ================================================================= . 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FIDONEWS 18-53 Page 21 31 Dec 2001 v-email flag firstname.lastname@osirusoft.com | email address or Node# | Operator | Facilities (*) | Speed,| Basic Rate | | |latency| -----------+-------------------+----------------+-------+------------ Zone 1 | | | | 10/3 @ Brenda Donovan | FTP,UUE,BinkP | 384K,30| n/c 10/345 @ Todd Cochrane | FTP,BinkP,VMOT | T1,! | n/c 18/500 @ Ross Cassell | FTP, BinkP |128K+,!| n/c 103/5 @ Mark Luetger | BinkP | CABLE | n/c 103/301 @ Joe Jared | BinkP,FTP,NFS | 384k,!| n/c 103/401 @ Warren Bonner | BinkP | aDSL,!| n/c 105/8 @ Russ Johnson | FTP,BinkP,VMoT | 384k | n/c 105/72 @ Larry James | FTP, BinkP | aDSL | $50/yr 106/1 @ Steve Loupe | BinkP, FTP | 128k | ??? 106/2000 | Bob Juge | BinkP VMoT FTP TX| ??? | n/c 106/6018 | Lawrence Garvin | FTP, VMoT | aDSL,60| n/c 107/453 @ Jeffrey Estevez| FTP,BinkP,VMoT,UUE| 56k,60| $10 mo. 134/11 @ Michael Grant | FTP, BinkP, VMoT UUE, IFCICO,TransX aDSL, 60 | n/c 138/146 | Marc Blakely | BinkP,FTP | ??? | n/c 140/1 @ Bob Seaborn | FTP,BinkP | T3,30 | $5/$16 142/906 | Chris Griffin | BinkP | ??? | n/c 150/220 | Dave Nemeth | UUE | ??? | n/c 153/7715 | Dallas Hinton | BinkD, FTP | CABLE | ??? 167/133 | Stephen Monteith | BinkP | 128k+ | n/c 167/166 | Jesse Dooling | POP? UUE TX FTP| ??? | n/c 218/109 @ Matt Munson | BinkP,UUE,TX | 33.6k | n/c 220/10 | groberts@nexusbbs.net |BinkP,FTP,UUE|1.5M+ | n/c 229/1 | Phil Simpson | BinkP UUE FTP | ??? | n/c 229/2000 | Robert Couture |BinkP FTP UUE TX| ??? | 229/622 | Dave Hamilton | BinkP | ??? | n/c 249/116 | Carl Austin Bennett | FTP, UUE |ADSL,60 | n/c 250/98 | Darin McBride | BinkP FTP TX | ??? | n/c 250/99 | Brent McLaren | FTP BinkP | ??? | n/c 250/102 | Darin McBride | BinkP FTP | ??? | n/c 267/169 | Philip Lozier | FTP TX | ??? | n/c 261/1380 | Joe Davis | UUE TX | ??? | n/c 280/169 | Brian Greenstreet | FTP | 33.6 | $2mo. 297/11 | Michael McCabe | TX | ??? | n/c 323/120 | Craig Healy | VMoT FTP | ??? | n/c 342/3 @ Richard Dodsworth | BinkP,FTP | 128K+ | n/c 360/5 | Bennie Hutto | FTP VMoT | aDSL | n/c 395/670 | Arthur Stark | BinkD,FTP | CABLE | n/c 379/1 @ Dale Ross | FTP, BinkP,UUE | 256K+,! n/c 379/1200 | Chris Cranford | BinkP FTP TX | ??? | n/c 393/9005 | Steve Quarrella |BinkP TX UUE VMoT| ??? | n/c 395/670 | Arthur Stark | BinkP VMoT FTP | ??? | n/c 396/45 | Marc Lewis |BinkP FTP UUE TX| ADSL | n/c 396/48 | Ben Ritchey | UUE:BFDS? | 33.6k | n/c 2215/300 | Dennis Haddox | UUE,TX | CABLE | n/c 2320/38 | Janis Kracht | BinkP FTP | ??? | n/c 2410/400 | Gary Gilmore | FTP BinkP | 384K,60| n/c 2410/213 | Kevin Bentz | FTP, BinkP, UUE| Cable | n/c 2604/104 @ Jim Mclaughlin | FTP,VMoT,UUE | 33.6 | $1mo 2624/306 | David Calafrancesco | VMoT | 33.6 | n/c FIDONEWS 18-53 Page 22 31 Dec 2001 3613/1275 | @ jyates@bsdi.ldl.net | UUE,FTP | 28.8 | n/c 3407/4 | Robert Todd |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c 3632/84 | Robert Todd |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c 3830/5 | Jeff Schrunk |BinkP FTP TX UUE| ??? | n/c 3830/10 | Matt Bedynek |FTP, BinkD | OC3 n/c -------------------------------------------------------------- Zone 2 | 20/11 | Henrik Lindhe | BinkP | ??? | n/c 22/222 | Kim Heino | BinkP | ??? | n/c 28/1 | Lody Caenen | BinkP FTP | ??? | n/c 31/1 | Gabriel Plutzar | BinkP | T1+ | n/c 37/37 | Gabor Z. Papp | BinkP | ??? | n/c 47/999 | Andrej Kirejev | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 201/329 | Mats Wallin | VMoT TX | ??? | n/c 201/505 | Goran Eriksson | BinkP | ??? | n/c 203/600 | Mikael Karlsson | UUE | 64k | n/c 211/37 | Torbjorn Mohn | BinkP | 8/2mb | n/c 221/360 @ Tommi Koivula | BinkP,UUE | ??? | n/c 236/205 @ Michael Kaaber | BinkP | ??? | n/c 240/6298 | Steve Tell | BinkP UUE | ??? | n/c 246/2098 | Volker Imre | BinkP | ??? | n/c 252/110 | David Rance | UUE | ??? | n/c 255/90 | Simon Avery | UUE | ??? | n/c 263/950 | Sean Rima | TX UUE | ??? | n/c 280/1027 | Lukas de Groen | BinkP FTP | ??? | n/c 280/1601 @ Jeroen VanDeLeur | FTP,UUE | 64k | n/c 280/4312 | Jos Huijnen | BinkP ifcico UUE TX| ??? | n/c 280/5003 | Kees van Eeten | BinkP ifcico | ??? | n/c 292/620 | Eddy Missoul | VMoT, UUE,BinkP| 64k | n/c 292/624 | Steven Leeman | UUE | 64k | n/c 292/854 | Ward Dossche | BinkP UUE TX | ??? | n/c 292/907 | Bart Verhaeghe | BinkP,VMoT,UUE | 64K | n/c 292/2003 | Eric Vaneberck | BinkP | 768k | n/c 301/1 | Peter Witschi | BinkP | 768k | n/c 332/807 | Roberto Mascolo | BinkP | ??? | n/c 333/0 | M Gianformaggio | BinkP | ??? | n/c 335/534 @ Mario Mure | BinkP,VMot,UUE | 64k | n/c 335/610 | Gino Lucrezi | UUE | 33.6 | n/c 341/14 | Rafael Suarez | BinkP VMoT | ??? | n/c 341/51 | Jose.Maria Tejada | VMoT | | 341/66 | Angel Ripoll | VMoT | | 343/168 | Jose Casanova | VMoT | | 344/201 | Julio Garcia | BinkP | ??? | n/c 346/3 @ Carlos Navarro | UUE | ??? | n/c 347/1 | Javi Polo | UUE | | 348/105 | Alejandro Estraviz| BinkP UUE | | 382/100 | Sinisa Burina | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 400/555 | Ofir Michaeli | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 400/557 | Marius Kaizerman | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 400/558 | Vlad Hrusca | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 406/555 | Ofir Michaeli & | BinkP | ??? | n/c 406/555 | Marius Kaizerman | BinkP | ??? | n/c 423/81 | Milos Bajer | BinkP | ??? | n/c 461/256 | Andrew Rutkas | BinkP | ??? | n/c 461/640 | Alex Semenyaka |BinkP ifcico UUE| ??? | n/c 465/204 | Va Milushnikov | BinkP | 33.6k | n/c FIDONEWS 18-53 Page 23 31 Dec 2001 469/84 | Max Masyutin | VMoT | 256k | n/c 469/128 | Oleg Vasenyoff | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 480/112 | Adam Sarapata| FTP, VMoT, UUE,BinkP| 128k | n/c 550/4077 | Serguei Trouchelle| UUE | ----- | n/c 2410/201 | Karsten Ebeling | BinkP UUE | ??? | n/c 2411/413 @ Dennis Dittrich | UUE,BinkP | 64k | n/c 2432/200 | Sven Dueker | BinkP TX UUE | ??? | n/c 2446/301 @ Lothar Behet | BinkP,VMoT,UUE,FTP | 64K | n/c 2474/275 | Christian Emig | UUE | 64k | unkn 2487/3000 | Steffen Gross | BinkP | ??? | n/c 3830/10 | Matt Bedynek | FTP, BinkP | 100Mb | n/c 5002/5002 | Victor Belyakov | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5014/4 | Alex Bagmanov | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 5020/52 | Peter Didenko | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5020/54 | Serge Wizgounoff | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 5020/69 | B Chernivetsky | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5020/238 | Sergey Gubanov | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5030/115 | Andrey Podkolzin | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5030/1251 | K Stepanekov | UUE | ??? | n/c 5100/8 | Egons Bush | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5020/1159 | Gennady Kudryashoff | UUE | 33.6 | n/c 5049/12 | Amir Shabashvili | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5054/3 | Andrew Popov | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5080/80 | Eugene Zorin | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 5083/21 | Alexander Uskov | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 5090/2 | Andrew Titov | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5100/8 | Egons Bush | BinkP | ??? | n/c -------------------------------------------------------------- Zone 3 633/260 @ Malcolm Miles | FTP,BinkP | 64K | n/c 640/954 | Rick Van Ruth | FTP,VMot,UUE,BinkP| 56K| n/c 712/311 | Bob James | TX | ??? | n/c 774/605 @ Barry Blackford|BinkP,VMoT:10023,ifcico,FTP |33.6| n/c -------------------------------------------------------------- Zone 4 801/161 @ Renato Zambon | UUE | 33.6 |n/c 902/18 | Javier Tejedor | UUE | 33,6 | n/c -------------------------------------------------------------- Zone 6 65/3000 | Lawrence Fan | UUE | 33600 | free 653/1009 | Maorong Chen | UUE | ??? | free 654/0 | Bin Li | UUE,BinkP | 33600 | free 654/1501 | Lawrence Fan | UUE,BinkP | 28800 | free -- * FTP = Internet File Transfer Protocol * VMoT = Virtual Mailer over Telnet (various) * UUE = uuencode<->email type transfers * BinkP = front end mailer for TCPIP networks * TX = TransX * NFS = Linux Networking * ifcico = ifcico-compatible virtual mailer ---------------------------------------------- Fidonet oriented news servers news.osirusoft.com FIDONEWS 18-53 Page 24 31 Dec 2001 news.tardis.net Fidonet oriented chat rooms. room #fidonet 5PM (PDT 11AM GMT) Sundays irc.osirusoft.com (Peers wanted) ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 18-53 Page 25 31 Dec 2001 ================================================================= [ FIDONEWS INFORMATION ] ================================================================= How to Submit an Article If you wish to submit an article for inclusion in the Fidonews, here are the -=_guidelines_=-: No more than 70 characters per line. 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