The F I D O N E W S Volume 18, Number 48 26 Nov 2001 +--------------------------+-----------------------------------------+ | |The newsletter of the | | Fido, Fidonet and dog-with-diskette are | | | FidoNet community. | | US Registered Trademarks of Tom Jennings| | | | | San Francisco, California, USA | | | ____________| | | | | / __ | Crash Netmail Articles To: | | | / / \ | Editor@1:1/23 (1-972-562-8064) | | | WOOF! ( /|oo \ | Frank Vest@1:124/6308 | | \_______\(_| /_) | or E-Mail (attach) To: | | _ @/_ \ _ | fidonews@sbcglobal.net | | | | \ \\ | | | | (*) | \ ))| Editor: Frank Vest | | |__U__| / \// | Deputy-Editor: Lawrence Garvin | | ______ _//|| _\ / | | | / Fido \ (_/(_|(____/ | Newspapers should have no friends. | | (________) (jm) | -- JOSEPH PULITZER | +--------------------------+-----------------------------------------+ Copyright 2001 by Fidonews Editor for Fidonews Globally. Table of Contents 1. [ FOOD FOR THOUGHT ] ..................................... 1 2. [ TOP STORIES ] .......................................... 2 The Fidonews at a Glance ................................. 2 3. [ EDITORIAL ] ............................................ 3 The Fidonews Is For ...................................... 3 4. [ REBUTTALS TO PREVIOUS ARTICLES ] ....................... 5 "Wagging the Dog" ........................................ 5 5. [ OL'WDB'S COLUMN - WARREN BONNER ] ...................... 6 Disharmony ............................................... 6 6. [ QUESTION OF THE WEEK ] ................................. 8 Does Fidonet Need a Policy? .............................. 8 7. [ CLEAN HUMOR & JOKES ] .................................. 9 Lessons .................................................. 9 8. [ FIDONET CLASSIFIED ADS ] ............................... 10 Rotating Ads ............................................. 10 9. [ TODD COCHRANE'S FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING ] ............. 11 *Fidonet/BBS Software Listing's* ......................... 11 10. [ JOE JARED'S FIDONET BY INTERNET ] ..................... 17 Fidonet-related sites .................................... 17 11. [ SPECIAL INTEREST ] .................................... 23 Nodelist Stats ........................................... 23 12. [ FIDONEWS INFORMATION ] ................................ 25 How to Submit an Article ................................. 25 Credits, Legal Infomation, Availability .................. 26 FIDONEWS 18-48 Page 1 26 Nov 2001 ================================================================= [ FOOD FOR THOUGHT ] ================================================================= "My Dog Can Lick Anyone." ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 18-48 Page 2 26 Nov 2001 ================================================================= [ TOP STORIES ] ================================================================= The Fidonews at a Glance The Editorial this week is based on a quote from Tom Jennings about who the Fidonews is for and what it is for. Andrea Santos gives her rebuttal to Carl Bennett's article last week. In the "Humor" section is a bit copied from a Fidonet echo, with permission, by Paul Williams. Ol' WDB sends Fidonet a plea for harmony. The question of the week, such as it is, asks a question and desires a "why" for the answer. Don't forget the "Classified Ads" section. Write an advertisement for your Fidonet service, software or ?? for next week. ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 18-48 Page 3 26 Nov 2001 ================================================================= [ EDITORIAL ] ================================================================= The Fidonews Is For By Frank Vest Much has been said over the last few weeks about the Fidonews and what should be allowed or not allowed in it. This editor has taken a poll, listened and tried to understand from all points of view. The points of view from people in Fidonet vary widely, from the belief that the Fidonews should be strictly a technical publication, to the belief that any and all articles should be allowed. I offer the following quote from Tom Jennings, REF: "http://www.well.com/~jonl/works/tjennings.html" "FidoNews was designed in '84 in the first year as the meta-net, to discuss the net itself, to discuss the social end of the net. In the first issue was a retired Air Force colonel or something, whining about the military retirement process, and people instantly said, "This is supposed to be a technical newsletter, this is FidoNet." and I said, "No, bullshit, it's not. I'm tired of just this techie crap. Do you talk on the phone about your telephone all the time? 'Gee, I've got a great new phone, it's got all these pushbuttons.' and you get bored very quickly. It's like radio amateurs talking about their goddamn antennas." Who wants to put up with that stuff?" -Tom Jennings While the wording is a little crude, Tom captures what the Fidonews, and Fidonet, is and isn't about. In the very first sentence, Tom refers to the "social end of the net". Ladies and gentlemen, The Fidonews is more than just a technical newsletter for Fidonet. Fidonet is more than just a technical network. Were it not, there would be no echos such as "BARBROOM", "CHATTER", "MUSIC" and such. All we would have is "*TECH" type echos. It has been argued that the Fidonews should be about Fidonet. I couldn't agree more. Now, what is Fidonet about? Is Fidonet just about computers, software, networking, technical aspects? This editor thinks not. Fidonet is about people, communication, the social aspects. If the Internet was only about the Internet, where would it be? If only Internet related topics were allowed on the Internet, what would be on the Internet? Not much more than a few pages giving information on how to contact and get an account with an ISP. If Fidonet were the same way, there would be little more than a few echos telling how to set up and receive the echos telling how to set up and receive the echos about setting up to receive the echos about.... :-) In this light, if the Internet had a newsletter that was only for or about the Internet, what articles would be in it? Answer?: Articles about how the Internet worked on a technical basis, how to set up to connect to an ISP to receive web pages on how to set up and receive FIDONEWS 18-48 Page 4 26 Nov 2001 web pages about how to set up..... The Fidonews would be much the same. :( No. Fidonet is about people. Communication, social aspects and interaction. In the international aspect, it is about other cultures, learning, and more. If this were a newsletter about astrology, it would be easy to get articles. There would be thousands of astrologers that had nothing better to do than, or interest in, writing about the stars. Articles would flow constantly about this new star or that new telescope. It is harder to get these "cantankerous" people in Fidonet to write articles. :-) Ladies and gentlemen. The Fidonews is about people, interaction between those people, cultures, learning about people and cultures and, of course, the technical end of Fidonet. It has been said from all over Fidonet that `others', meaning those that are not in "our" country, don't understand us and don't know about us. It's been argued that the Fidonews is dominated by `others'. I ask, why? Why do you allow this to happen? Why don't you write an article about your land, culture or whatever? True, it might not be interesting to all, but, neither are the latest init strings to a 56k modem. It might, however, be of interest to some. There are many sections in the Fidonews. Some may seem to not "fit" in the Fidonews. I put it to you that this depends on the reader, the writer and the article. In all the sections of the Fidonews, the below are the ones that I see as "not really about Fidonet"; Comix Fidonet's International Kitchen Poet's Corner Clean Humor and Jokes Special Interest Guess which sections I get the most articles for??? Yup, you guessed it. The above mentioned sections. I'm going to end this with a thought. The next time you feel the need to complain about an article that "doesn't belong in the Fidonews", think about what Fidonet is for and what the Fidonews is for. Then, write an article and send it in. While you're at it, write an article that does "fit" in the Fidonews and submit it. That way you will have two voices in the Fidonews and the Fidonews will have articles to publish that are about Fidonet from Fidonet people. Kind regards, Frank Vest - Editor, Fidonews ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 18-48 Page 5 26 Nov 2001 ================================================================= [ REBUTTALS TO PREVIOUS ARTICLES ] ================================================================= "Wagging the Dog" By Andrea Santos, 1:135/382, asantos@santronics.com In response to CAB's article last week on "Leash Laws," what he and his cohorts in Oshawa and, specifically, Net 229 continually fail to comprehend is the out of area ION nodes they list, a number of which are not even running valid Mailers, were never theirs to have. While Net 229 may not adhere to Policy 4 in any manner, the rest of Zone 1 does, and the rules pertaining to out of area geographic listings are clear. If there is a technical reason (includes non-response from *C above) why a node cannot be listed in their geographic Net/Region, an out of area listing would be prudent. If there exist personality issues between a node and their NC/RC to the point of incompatibility, an out of area listing should also be considered by the *C above the frey. What's at issue is the intentions and motivation of Net 229, which have absolutely nothing to do with the legitimate reasons cited above for requesting an out of area listing. Plain and simply, it's about stuffing their nodelist segment with nodes, regardless, even if they are not technically compliant. Doing this serves several purposes: - Pounding collective chests that Net 229 and, hence, Region 12 is listing nodes at a faster clip while other Nets/Regions are not or doing so at a slower pace. - Thumbing P4, the ongoing game. - Blatant attempt to collect nodes in the event Fidonet should ever proceed with a Sysop Level vote for Z1C with the goal of Region 12 determining who will become Z1C at the expense of all other Regions. To be clear, what this isn't about is some altruistic effort on the part of Net 229 to encourage the growth of Fidonet. It is about growing one little spec on the North American Map to further the political goals of a small minority of disgruntled nodes, clustered in a "geographic" Net/ Region. Ironically, we are back to geography, but on terms not defined or recognized in Policy 4. The incessant whining from this crowd is old and tiring. Either live within the rules of Zone 1 and forward on legitimate nodes to their applicable Nets/Regions or pack up and apply for Zone 12 status. ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 18-48 Page 6 26 Nov 2001 ================================================================= [ OL'WDB'S COLUMN - WARREN BONNER ] ================================================================= Disheartening wdbonner@pacbell.net Disharmony continues to rage rampant in some of the echoes. I fear dear readers, that the foundation fidonet was constructed upon is in jeopardy. Some of the most experienced sysops, the ones that were the wheels and cogs, the ones that moved the fidonet nodes to join, work and learn with each other; are now battling each other in the echoes. No one wants to appear civil, polite or gracious in word or tone. This hatred is a far worse disease than malingering and malaise for it destroys the spirit, the fuel the heart of fidonet runs on. If our most experienced sysops fight each other to a point that no one participates for fear of assassination... then malaise will finish Fido. Why can't the great egos lock step with each other and solve problems rather than exploit them to weaken those they perceive to be adversaries? I note that some post as though they are campaigning and their opponents are contenders for the same office and must be covered with mud. Where is the Fidonet of the eighties and early nineties? Back then a node could ask a question and have almost instant help, now that same node would be berated for ignorance, (especially if they wanted clarification on Policy 4.07 as a remedy), by the pontifical prognosticators of "evil electioneering" and total disobedience to Policy 4's guidelines except where convenient to them. Many more nodes would be willing to post and participate were it not so dangerous to them personally. It is just easier to stay in the shadows and watch the wheels knock each other off. I for one would like to see some good things said for the *C's. I think verbally tearing down the structure that made Fidonet one of the first and largest independent networks in the world, is wrong. I think belittling those who have given their time and many cases their money, to build Fidonet, deserve some word of praise rather than demeaning comments. The Zones should be helping and complementing each other rather than: "I am smarter and bigger than you". I do hope this writing will encourage those "silent souls" to rise to the occasion and help bring Fidonet back on track 1988 where I found her to be anxious, willing to be helpful, and intensely cooperative. Not one, but three sysops were there to pick me up everytime I fell down... which was everytime Wildcat sneezed... Finally friend Joe "skinned that cat" after several cat deaths and set up "Remote Access", I think to get some free time for his own BBS.... heeheh. I am not a technical programmer, I am a writer that loves to find good friends in Fido and enjoy the camaraderie with out the cactus. Different points of view can be presented with out the words "Idiot" and "$#@!" or "ass%#*e". We are civilized... No? JMHO Ol'wdb FIDONEWS 18-48 Page 7 26 Nov 2001 ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 18-48 Page 8 26 Nov 2001 ================================================================= [ QUESTION OF THE WEEK ] ================================================================= Does Fidonet Need a Policy? Much has been said about Policy in Fidonet. Many sides and views are voiced when the subject is brought up. Here's your chance. :) Does Fidonet need a Policy? Why?? ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 18-48 Page 9 26 Nov 2001 ================================================================= [ CLEAN HUMOR & JOKES ] ================================================================= Lessons By: Garry Stahl Submitted by: Paul Williams Copied from: TREK_HUMOR_FILK I learned some lessons over the last two days. Lesson One: While bring some snacks into the living room Saturday night, my overloaded right hand fumbled an item off my right side. I caught it before it fell a foot, with my left hand. Lesson: I am still quick as blazes when push comes to shove. Lesson Two: By the end of the night my back was stiff, and by morning I could hardly move. Only hours of painkillers, heat, and careful working got me mobil. Lesson, I am not in good enough condition to be quick as blazes. Anyone know a good body shop? I need a new one. ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 18-48 Page 10 26 Nov 2001 ================================================================= [ FIDONET CLASSIFIED ADS ] ================================================================= Rotating ads As a service of the Fidonews, I am prepared to offer rotating ads for those that provide services to Fidonet such as Mail Hubs, Gateways, Fidonet via Internet, Fidonet software, Backbone services and such. How this works: 1. Create an ad following the guidelines for the Fidonews. 2. Keep it short and to the point. 3. Put contact and other needed information in the ad. 4. Send it to Frank Vest as a file attach. A. E-Mail "flv@sbcglobal.net B. Netmail "Frank Vest - 1:124/6308 I will put the ad in a pool and use a program each week to automatically rotate the ads into the Fidonews. Please! If you stop offering service or need to change your ad, contact me! This is very important to keep the ads current. I'm doing this on a trial basis. If it gets to be a problem, I will have to discontinue the service. I can make no promise of how often your ad will be in the Fidonews. This will depend on how many ads I have to rotate through. As always in Fidonet, I make no guaranties. :) Regards, Frank Vest - Fidonews Editor ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 18-48 Page 11 26 Nov 2001 ================================================================= [ TODD COCHRANE'S FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING ] ================================================================= *Fidonet/BBS Software Listing's* -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- BBS Software -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- BBBS Home Page b@bbbs.net http://www.bbbs.net/ ELEBBS- The Elevator Software Productions Web Page elebbs@elebbs.com http://www.elebbs.com/ Hermes II Project (Mac) info@HermesII.org http://www.hermesii.org/ Maximus BBS Support Page (Non Official) sales@lainus.com http://www.vector11.com/maximus/ MBSE BBS Michiel Broek + development team mbroek@users.sourceforge.net http://mbse.sourceforge.net 2:2802/2 Michiel Broek. Mystic BBS http://www.mysticbbs.com/mystic/ Nexus Bulletin Board System groberts@nexusbbs.net http://www.nexusbbs.net/ Proboard Telegrafix Communications Inc. info@telegrafix.com 540-678-4050 http://www.telegrafix.com RemoteAccess Central Bruce Morse bfmorse@rapro.com http://www.rapro.com/ Searchlight Telegrafix Communications Inc. info@telegrafix.com 540-678-4050 http://www.telegrafix.com Spitfire BBS FIDONEWS 18-48 Page 12 26 Nov 2001 Buffalo Creek Software MDWoltz@AOL.COM http://www.angelfire.com/ia/buffalo/index.html Synchronet BBS sysop@vert.synchro.net http://www.synchro.net Telegard BBS support@telegard.net http://www.telegard.net/ Wildcat Interactive Net Server (BBS) Santronics Inc. sales@santronics.com (305)248-3204 http://www.santronics.com -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Door Software -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bentstone Capabilities Group info@stonebenders.com http://www.srupc.com/mall Jibben Software scott@jibben.com http://www.jibbensoftware.com/ JNS Software Door Games Rusty Johnson rustyjohnson57@hotmail.com 304-733-0113 http://www.geocities.com/jnssoftware/ Legend Of The Red Dragon Reborn (L.O.R.D.) http://www.lordlegacy.org/ PC Pursuits brucep@pop.kis.net (301)240-6653 http://www.pcpursuits.com/products.htm S and T Software Mark Bappe mark.bappe@bozax.iainc.net (770)788-6843 http://bozax.iainc.net/public/ Shinning Star BBS Doors nannette@shiningstar.net http://www.shiningstar.net/bbsdoors/ Sunrise Door Software Al Lawerence al@sunrisedoors.com FIDONEWS 18-48 Page 13 26 Nov 2001 (404)256-9518 http://www.sunrisedoors.com/ The Brainex System info@brainex.com http://www.brainex.com/brainex_system/ Trade Wars Door Game jpritch@eisonline.com http://www.eisonline.com/tradewars/ 1:299/110 Vagabond Software Bryan Turner vagabond@darktech.org http://vagabond.virtualave.net/ 1:124/7013 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Mail Tossers -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- FMail Support wijnstra@fmail.nl.eu.org http://fmail.nl.eu.org/ 2:280/1076 Squish Tosser http://www.lanius.com/squish.htm -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Mailer Software -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Argus RITLABS argus@ritlabs.com 373-2-246889 http://www.ritlabs.com/argus/ 2:469/84 FrontDoor, FrontDoor APX, Mailer/Point Software Definite Solutions sales@defsol.se http://www.defsol.se/ BeeMail Home Page http://beemail.gexonline.net Stephen Proffit 1:211/405 BinkleyTerm XE Frontend Mailer Software http://btxe.sourceforge.net/ Plantinum Express for Wildcat Santronics Inc. sales@santronics.com (305)248-3204 FIDONEWS 18-48 Page 14 26 Nov 2001 http://www.santronics.com -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Fidonet via Internet Software -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Argus RITLABS argus@ritlabs.com 373-2-246889 http://www.ritlabs.com/argus/ 2:469/84 BinkD maloff@corbina.net http://2f.ru/binkd/ Fidogate Martin_Junius@m-j-s.net http://www.fidogate.org/ Fidonet to Internet Mailer Bo Bendtsen sales@terminate.com http://www.terminate.com/fido2int.htm GiGo Software http://www.gigo.com/ Internet Rex cruden@cs.ualberta.ca http://plaza.v-wave.com/InternetRex/ Tmail (Russian /w English DL) http://www.tmail.spb.ru/index-19.htm TransX Multiboard Communications Inc. support@multiboard.com http://www.multiboard.com/software/transx.html 1:2401/305 TransNet transnet@ressl.com.ar http://www.ressl.com.ar/transnet/ Watergate ramon@sbbs.se http://www2.sbbs.se/hp/ramon/ -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Point Software -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Definite Solutions FrontDoor APX http://www.defsol.se/ JetSys - Home of JetMail, JetStat and other Atari Fidonet utilities FIDONEWS 18-48 Page 15 26 Nov 2001 http://www.jetsys.de/ APoint http://www.apoint.websale.net/index.htm (Author) http://www.apoint-mail.de (Co-Author) CrossPoint ("Original" version) http://www.crosspoint.de http://www.apoint-mail.de CrossPoint (OpenXP Projekt) http://www.openxp.com (English) http://www.openxp.de (German) CrossPoint (XP2 Team) http://www.xp2.de WinPoint95 http://www.schenksmir.de/wp/english The OpenXP CrossPoint Projekt http://www.happyarts.de/xp Terminate Terminal http://www.terminate.com PPoint-FTS compatible E-Mail System http://www.alcuf.ca/ppoint.htm -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Other Software, Utillities and such -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- F-Prot Anti-Virus Home Page http://www.complex.is/cgi-bin/home_pager BGFAX Home Page http://blkbox.com/~bgfax/ SIO, Vmodem for OS/2 http://www.gwinn.com NetModem for Windows http://www.allensoftware.com Com/IP Region 11: http://www.vector11.com/region11/ Net 2410: http://www.vector11.com/net2410/ Region 13: http://www.ispaceonline.org/region13/ Net 109: http://www.thelitterbox.net/fido/net109/ Net 261: http://www.baltimorepress.com/~net261/ Net 275: http://www.ispaceonline.org/net275/ Net 267: http://www.angelfire.com/ny4/net267/ Net 275: http://www.ispaceonline.org/net275/ Region 14: http://www.ouijabrd.com/region14 Net 282: http://www.rxn.com/~net282/ Region 15: Region 16: Region 17: http://www.region17.net Net 140: http://www.nwstar.com/~net140 Region 18: http://techshop.pdn.net/fido/ Region 19: http://bise.tzo.com/r19 FIDONEWS 18-48 Page 18 26 Nov 2001 Net 124: http://www.DallasInet.com/net124/ http://texoma.net/~flv Net 393: http://www.chatter.com/~wb/ Zone 2: http://www.z2.fidonet.org Region 20: http://www.fidonet.pp.se (in Swedish) Region 23: http://www.fido.dk (in Danish) Region 24: http://www.swb.de/personal/flop/gatebau.html (German) http://www.was-ist-fido.de/ Fido-IP: http://home.nrh.de/fido/ (English/German) Region 25: Region 26: http://www.nemesis.ie REC 26: http://www.nrgsys.com/orb Region 27: http://telematique.org/ft/r27.htm Region 29: http://www.rtfm.be/fidonet/ (French) http://Welcome.to/skynetbbs/ Region 34: http://www.pobox.com/cnb/r34.htm (Spanish) REC34: http://www.fidospain.org Region 36: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/7207/ Region 38: http://public.st.carnet.hr/~blagi/bbs/adriam.html Region 41: http://www.fidonet.gr (Greek/English) Region 42: http://www.fido.cz Net422: http://www.fido.sk (Slovak/English) Region 50: http://www.fido7.com/ (Russian) Net 5010: http://fido.tu-chel.ac.ru/ (Russian) Net 5015: http://www.fido.nnov.ru/ (Russian) Net 5028: HTTP://5028.nordnet.ru/ Net 5030: http://kenga.ru/fido/ (Russian & English) ?? Net 5049: http://www.n5049.z2.fidonet.org (English/Russian) Net 5074: http://www.n5074.z2.fidonet.net ?? Net 5085: http://www.fidonet.uz/ (Russian) Zone 3: http://www.z3.fidonet.org Zone 4: Region 80: http://fidobrasil.8m.com (Portuguese) Region 90: Net 904: http://members.tripod.com/~net904 (Spanish) Zone 5: http://www.eastcape.co.za/fidonet/ Zone 6: http://www.z6.fidonet.org Region 65: http://r65.yeah.net http://www.cfido.com (Chinese) Fidonet Via Internet Hubs a @ preceding an individual's name implies a virtual email address. The email is translated as follows firstname.lastname@osirusoft.com will automatically route to the appropriate individual's email. Anyone in this list will FIDONEWS 18-48 Page 19 26 Nov 2001 also receive routed notice of this feature. v-email flag firstname.lastname@osirusoft.com | email address or Node# | Operator | Facilities (*) | Speed,| Basic Rate | | |latency| -----------+-------------------+----------------+-------+------------ Zone 1 | | | | 10/3 @ Brenda Donovan | FTP,UUE,BinkP | 384K,30| n/c 10/345 @ Todd Cochrane | FTP,BinkP,VMOT | T1,! | n/c 18/500 @ Ross Cassell | FTP, BinkP |128K+,!| n/c 103/5 @ Mark Luetger | BinkP | CABLE | n/c 103/301 @ Joe Jared | BinkP,FTP,NFS | 384k,!| n/c 103/401 @ Warren Bonner | BinkP | aDSL,!| n/c 105/8 @ Russ Johnson | FTP,BinkP,VMoT | 384k | n/c 105/72 @ Larry James | FTP, BinkP | aDSL | $50/yr 106/1 @ Steve Loupe | BinkP, FTP | 128k | ??? 106/2000 | Bob Juge | BinkP VMoT FTP TX| ??? | n/c 106/6018 | Lawrence Garvin | FTP, VMoT | aDSL,60| n/c 107/453 @ Jeffrey Estevez| FTP,BinkP,VMoT,UUE| 56k,60| $10 mo. 134/11 @ Michael Grant | FTP, BinkP, VMoT UUE, IFCICO,TransX aDSL, 60 | n/c 138/146 | Marc Blakely | BinkP,FTP | ??? | n/c 140/1 @ Bob Seaborn | FTP,BinkP | T3,30 | $5/$16 142/906 | Chris Griffin | BinkP | ??? | n/c 150/220 | Dave Nemeth | UUE | ??? | n/c 153/7715 | Dallas Hinton | BinkD, FTP | CABLE | ??? 167/133 | Stephen Monteith | BinkP | 128k+ | n/c 167/166 | Jesse Dooling | POP? UUE TX FTP| ??? | n/c 218/109 @ Matt Munson | BinkP,UUE,TX | 33.6k | n/c 220/10 | groberts@nexusbbs.net |BinkP,FTP,UUE|1.5M+ | n/c 229/1 | Phil Simpson | BinkP UUE FTP | ??? | n/c 229/2000 | Robert Couture |BinkP FTP UUE TX| ??? | 229/622 | Dave Hamilton | BinkP | ??? | n/c 249/116 | Carl Austin Bennett | FTP, UUE |ADSL,60 | n/c 250/98 | Darin McBride | BinkP FTP TX | ??? | n/c 250/99 | Brent McLaren | FTP BinkP | ??? | n/c 250/102 | Darin McBride | BinkP FTP | ??? | n/c 267/169 | Philip Lozier | FTP TX | ??? | n/c 261/1380 | Joe Davis | UUE TX | ??? | n/c 280/169 | Brian Greenstreet | FTP | 33.6 | $2mo. 297/11 | Michael McCabe | TX | ??? | n/c 323/120 | Craig Healy | VMoT FTP | ??? | n/c 342/3 @ Richard Dodsworth | BinkP,FTP | 128K+ | n/c 360/5 | Bennie Hutto | FTP VMoT | aDSL | n/c 395/670 | Arthur Stark | BinkD,FTP | CABLE | n/c 379/1 @ Dale Ross | FTP, BinkP,UUE | 256K+,! n/c 379/1200 | Chris Cranford | BinkP FTP TX | ??? | n/c 393/9005 | Steve Quarrella |BinkP TX UUE VMoT| ??? | n/c 395/670 | Arthur Stark | BinkP VMoT FTP | ??? | n/c 396/45 | Marc Lewis | UUE | 33.6 | $26/yr 396/48 | Ben Ritchey | UUE:BFDS? | 33.6k | n/c 2215/300 | Dennis Haddox | UUE,TX | CABLE | n/c 2320/38 | Janis Kracht | BinkP FTP | ??? | n/c 2410/400 | Gary Gilmore | FTP BinkP | 384K,60| n/c 2410/213 | Kevin Bentz | FTP, BinkP, UUE| Cable | n/c FIDONEWS 18-48 Page 20 26 Nov 2001 2604/104 @ Jim Mclaughlin | FTP,VMoT,UUE | 33.6 | $1mo 2624/306 | David Calafrancesco | VMoT | 33.6 | n/c 3613/1275 | @ jyates@bsdi.ldl.net | UUE,FTP | 28.8 | n/c 3407/4 | Robert Todd |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c 3632/84 | Robert Todd |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c 3830/5 | Jeff Schrunk |BinkP FTP TX UUE| ??? | n/c 3830/10 | Matt Bedynek |FTP, BinkD | OC3 n/c -------------------------------------------------------------- Zone 2 | 20/11 | Henrik Lindhe | BinkP | ??? | n/c 22/222 | Kim Heino | BinkP | ??? | n/c 28/1 | Lody Caenen | BinkP FTP | ??? | n/c 31/1 | Gabriel Plutzar | BinkP | T1+ | n/c 37/37 | Gabor Z. Papp | BinkP | ??? | n/c 47/999 | Andrej Kirejev | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 201/329 | Mats Wallin | VMoT TX | ??? | n/c 201/505 | Goran Eriksson | BinkP | ??? | n/c 203/600 | Mikael Karlsson | UUE | 64k | n/c 211/37 | Torbjorn Mohn | BinkP | 8/2mb | n/c 221/360 @ Tommi Koivula | BinkP,UUE | ??? | n/c 236/205 @ Michael Kaaber | BinkP | ??? | n/c 240/6298 | Steve Tell | BinkP UUE | ??? | n/c 246/2098 | Volker Imre | BinkP | ??? | n/c 252/110 | David Rance | UUE | ??? | n/c 255/90 | Simon Avery | UUE | ??? | n/c 263/950 | Sean Rima | TX UUE | ??? | n/c 280/1027 | Lukas de Groen | BinkP FTP | ??? | n/c 280/1601 @ Jeroen VanDeLeur | FTP,UUE | 64k | n/c 280/4312 | Jos Huijnen | BinkP ifcico UUE TX| ??? | n/c 280/5003 | Kees van Eeten | BinkP ifcico | ??? | n/c 292/620 | Eddy Missoul | VMoT, UUE,BinkP| 64k | n/c 292/624 | Steven Leeman | UUE | 64k | n/c 292/854 | Ward Dossche | BinkP UUE TX | ??? | n/c 292/907 | Bart Verhaeghe | BinkP,VMoT,UUE | 64K | n/c 292/2003 | Eric Vaneberck | BinkP | 768k | n/c 301/1 | Peter Witschi | BinkP | 768k | n/c 332/807 | Roberto Mascolo | BinkP | ??? | n/c 333/0 | M Gianformaggio | BinkP | ??? | n/c 335/534 @ Mario Mure | BinkP,VMot,UUE | 64k | n/c 335/610 | Gino Lucrezi | UUE | 33.6 | n/c 341/14 | Rafael Suarez | BinkP VMoT | ??? | n/c 341/51 | Jose.Maria Tejada | VMoT | | 341/66 | Angel Ripoll | VMoT | | 343/168 | Jose Casanova | VMoT | | 344/201 | Julio Garcia | BinkP | ??? | n/c 346/3 @ Carlos Navarro | UUE | ??? | n/c 347/1 | Javi Polo | UUE | | 348/105 | Alejandro Estraviz| BinkP UUE | | 382/100 | Sinisa Burina | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 400/555 | Ofir Michaeli | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 400/557 | Marius Kaizerman | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 400/558 | Vlad Hrusca | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 406/555 | Ofir Michaeli & | BinkP | ??? | n/c 406/555 | Marius Kaizerman | BinkP | ??? | n/c 423/81 | Milos Bajer | BinkP | ??? | n/c 461/256 | Andrew Rutkas | BinkP | ??? | n/c FIDONEWS 18-48 Page 21 26 Nov 2001 461/640 | Alex Semenyaka |BinkP ifcico UUE| ??? | n/c 465/204 | Va Milushnikov | BinkP | 33.6k | n/c 469/84 | Max Masyutin | VMoT | 256k | n/c 469/128 | Oleg Vasenyoff | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 480/112 | Adam Sarapata| FTP, VMoT, UUE,BinkP| 128k | n/c 550/4077 | Serguei Trouchelle| UUE | ----- | n/c 2410/201 | Karsten Ebeling | BinkP UUE | ??? | n/c 2411/413 @ Dennis Dittrich | UUE,BinkP | 64k | n/c 2432/200 | Sven Dueker | BinkP TX UUE | ??? | n/c 2446/301 @ Lothar Behet | BinkP,VMoT,UUE,FTP | 64K | n/c 2474/275 | Christian Emig | UUE | 64k | unkn 2487/3000 | Steffen Gross | BinkP | ??? | n/c 3830/10 | Matt Bedynek | FTP, BinkP | 100Mb | n/c 5002/5002 | Victor Belyakov | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5014/4 | Alex Bagmanov | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 5020/52 | Peter Didenko | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5020/54 | Serge Wizgounoff | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 5020/69 | B Chernivetsky | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5020/238 | Sergey Gubanov | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5030/115 | Andrey Podkolzin | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5030/1251 | K Stepanekov | UUE | ??? | n/c 5100/8 | Egons Bush | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5020/1159 | Gennady Kudryashoff | UUE | 33.6 | n/c 5049/12 | Amir Shabashvili | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5054/3 | Andrew Popov | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5080/80 | Eugene Zorin | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 5083/21 | Alexander Uskov | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 5090/2 | Andrew Titov | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5100/8 | Egons Bush | BinkP | ??? | n/c -------------------------------------------------------------- Zone 3 633/260 @ Malcolm Miles | FTP,BinkP | 64K | n/c 640/954 | Rick Van Ruth | FTP,VMot,UUE,BinkP| 56K| n/c 712/311 | Bob James | TX | ??? | n/c 774/605 @ Barry Blackford|BinkP,VMoT:10023,ifcico,FTP |33.6| n/c -------------------------------------------------------------- Zone 4 801/161 @ Renato Zambon | UUE | 33.6 |n/c 902/18 | Javier Tejedor | UUE | 33,6 | n/c -------------------------------------------------------------- Zone 6 65/3000 | Lawrence Fan | UUE | 33600 | free 653/1009 | Maorong Chen | UUE | ??? | free 654/0 | Bin Li | UUE,BinkP | 33600 | free 654/1501 | Lawrence Fan | UUE,BinkP | 28800 | free -- * FTP = Internet File Transfer Protocol * VMoT = Virtual Mailer over Telnet (various) * UUE = uuencode<->email type transfers * BinkP = front end mailer for TCPIP networks * TX = TransX * NFS = Linux Networking * ifcico = ifcico-compatible virtual mailer ---------------------------------------------- Fidonet oriented news servers FIDONEWS 18-48 Page 22 26 Nov 2001 news.osirusoft.com news.tardis.net Fidonet oriented chat rooms. room #fidonet 5PM (PDT 11AM GMT) Sundays irc.osirusoft.com (Peers wanted) ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 18-48 Page 23 26 Nov 2001 ================================================================= [ SPECIAL INTEREST ] ================================================================= Nodelist Stats INPUT NODELIST FILE : NODELIST.327 File has a Date Stamp of : 11/22/2001 File Size (uncompressed) : 1194.29 KBytes. The Input Nodelist file has 10912 Nodes in it and a total of 14056 non-comment entries. The list has 6 Zones listed. 65 Region Coordinators listed. 496 Network Hosts listed. 748 Hubs listed. 366 DOWN Nodes listed. 891 PRIVATE Nodes listed. 572 HOLD Nodes listed. Administrative overhead = 1315 ( 12.05 %) PRIVATE NODES overhead = 891 ( 8.17 %) Baud Rate Summary (or, BPS, for the die-hard technocrats): 9600 = 9356 ( 85.74 %) (HST's = 201 or 2.15 % of the 9600 baud modems.) (CSP's = 2 or 0.02 % of the 9600 baud modems.) 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