F I D O N E W S Volume 16, Number 19 10 May 1999 +----------------------------+---------------------------------------+ | The newsletter of the | ISSN 1198-4589 Published by: | | FidoNet community | "FidoNews" | | _ | +27-41-581-5913 [5:5/23] | | / \ | | | /|oo \ | | | (_| /_) | | | _`@/_ \ _ | | | | | \ \\ | Editor: | | | (*) | \ )) | Henk Wolsink 5:7104/2 | | |__U__| / \// | | | _//|| _\ / | | | (_/(_|(____/ | | | (jm) | Newspapers should have no friends. | | | -- JOSEPH PULITZER | +----------------------------+---------------------------------------+ | Submission address: FidoNews Editor 5:5/23 | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | MORE addresses: | | | | submissions=> editor@fidonews.org | | hwolsink@catpe.alt.za | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | For information, copyrights, article submissions, | | obtaining copies of FidoNews or the internet gateway FAQ | | please refer to the end of this file. | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ Table of Contents 1. EDITORIAL ................................................ 1 2. GUEST EDITORIAL .......................................... 2 Top-Down Organization - What is Fido's true structure? ... 2 3. ARTICLES ................................................. 3 Fidonet-TNG: Where do we go from here? ................... 3 North American Backbone Echo Changes [Mar-Apr] ........... 4 NAB &Z1B Echo Diff ....................................... 5 Z1 Backbone Echo Changes [Mar-Apr] ....................... 6 4. NOTICES .................................................. 8 5. FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING ................................. 9 Latest Greatest Software Versions ........................ 9 6. FIDONET BY INTERNET ...................................... 14 7. FIDONEWS INFORMATION ..................................... 18 FIDONEWS 16-19 Page 1 10 May 1999 ================================================================= EDITORIAL ================================================================= Greetings, I've never been involded or for that matter, seen a twister. The movie I've seen yes. Hence my sympathies to those who lost a love one in last weeks twister(s) in Zone 1. Another 2 weeks and I'll be spending a well earned rest in Zone 2. During those two weeks, Douglas Myers will be caretaker of the snooze and I thank him for assisting me in being able to get a break. Please, if your article does not happen to appear in the snooze during that time, please be patient as it will, I'm sure on my return. Happy reading, ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 16-19 Page 2 10 May 1999 ================================================================= GUEST EDITORIAL ================================================================= Top-Down Organization What is Fido's true structure? Douglas Myers 1:270/720 doug@mdtnbbs.com The bad news is that the Zone 1 Coordinator election process appeared to be stalled. The good news is that Andrea Santos' probing questions have elicited sincere discussions in the Z1C echo from at least two Regional Coordinators. The bad news is that there is still no firm schedule nor details concerning the election available. The good news is that the consensus is that the election won't "fall through the cracks." An sidebar to the conversation caught my attention, and seemed to me to have more significance than the timing of the election. I was, at first, appalled when Dallas Hinton - himself a likely candidate for the Z1C slot - mentioned that the identity of the Z1C was of little significance to the "average node." It was hard to fault what he actually said... he was just pointing out that most Fido nodes won't be adversely affected if it takes a little time to select a new ZC... but my first reaction was that the statement smacked of elitism. Upon further reflection, though, his view of the "average node" is totally consistent with the view of Fidonet as a "top-down" structure. The "top-down" view assumes that most of the authority is concentrated in the top positions. Contrast this to the viewpoint of many of the individuals who feel that Fidonet should be democratized - essentially a "bottom-up" structure. How did we come to hold these two viewpoints of Fido? Ironically, many in Fido hole both viewpoints simultaneously. I've often wondered how the same people who expect coordinators to act as mere nodelist clerks will also blame them for a lack of leadership. We, as a net, seem to want democracy simultaneously with strong central authority. The next Zone Coordinator will face a truly daunting task - he'll face twin demands to dispatch issues with the strong resolution usually found only in tyrants, and yet be called upon to determine and act upon the consensus of those vaguely-defined "average nodes." The next Zone Coordinator is best advised to get to know these "average nodes," for he'll find that he can only derive power from the Regional Coordinators who select him. True authority must come from the "average nodes," whether they're paying attention or not. ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 16-19 Page 3 10 May 1999 ================================================================= ARTICLES ================================================================= Fidonet-TNG: Where do we go from here? by Larry Cody Fidonet: 1:133/504 Email: lcody@asnbbs.com WWW: bbs.asnbbs.com In the section ECHO TALK of Fidonews 16-18 (3 May 1999), an unnamed author made these comments in reference to the future of Fido: "The people of Fidonet have been very clever about connecting through the Internet... but most of our effort has been bent to connecting to each other in support of the traditional dial-up BBS. Now we need to direct our efforts to connecting to the _people_. Fido of the (near) future needs to be just a mouse-click away." The author of these words is absolutely correct... Fidonet has always been about connecting to people, whether through the echoes a system carried, the files the Sysop made available, or the general air of the BBS. As the modem-using community turns increasingly towards the Internet, so Fidonet BBSes must also turn in that direction. Should we fail to do so, continued decline and eventual extinction is the most probable end. But there is an answer, available now, to at least part of the problem. Many Fidonet BBSes are already on the Internet. Through the use of software platforms which enable either Telnet or HTML connections, Fidonet remains accessible to the masses. The message areas can be HTML pages or text-only, but either way, they are there for the newcomer to read. However, access is not sufficient to ensure Fidonet's future. As any good marketer knows, to create a need for a product or service, one must create a desire for such. In order to create a "desire" for visiting a Fidonet BBS, we have to ensure that the user who stumbles into that system encounters something that brings them back. One possible solution lies in our past... Fidonet Sysops once had a tradition of helping others. How many of us owe our very existence to another Sysop who had a patient ear (and a handy telephone) to walk us through setting up this or that? How many BBSes started because a Sysop had a (C)hat option and then used it, perhaps to answer a few questions on how to start a BBS? We must rediscover that tradition. A number of BBSes participate in various Webrings, connecting Internet-accessible BBSes to each other. Other boards already offer Telnet links between BBSes for Internet use. Those boards provide an entry point for the Internet-bound. Links to non-Internet BBSes can be carried as free advertisements (time to dig out the old ANSI logoff screens). Perhaps others know of an ISP or business who may provide resources to put a BBS on the 'net. Who knows? The IT manager at that local business may have gotten his or her start as a kid on a local Fidonet BBS. FIDONEWS 16-19 Page 4 10 May 1999 To reiterate the earlier point: Fidonet needs to connect to people. To do this, we need exposure... and that means advertising and marketing. The best advertising is often word-of-mouth. Those of you on the Internet, get the word out that Fido still exists. Join or create Webrings, advertise your fellow boards, meet the people in your community who may be able to help. Patronize your fellow boards and encourage the users you DO have to do the same. Above all, lend a helping hand to those who are struggling... either to stay or to join Fidonet. This is where Fidonet excels, where we have room to carve out a niche. Use technology to get them in the door, then keep them coming back because of the Sysop, not the system. Put that (C)hat command back on the menu and use it from time to time. Who knows? You may even bring some of the fun back to this old hobby of ours. ----------------------------------------------------------------- North American Backbone Echo Changes [Mar-Apr] by Lisa Gronke, 1:105/9 lisa@psg.com Summary of NAB echo changes during Mar & Apr. Brought to you courtesy of (unix) diff. diff backbone.na 07-Mar-99 backbone.na 02-May-99 [edited]. Added to the NAB list of echos ------------------------------ > ALASKA GENERAL CHAT FOR ALASKA > ARIZONA GENERAL CHAT FOR ARIZONA > ARKANSAS_ GENERAL CHAT FOR ARKANSAS > BBBS.ENGLISH The International BBBS Support Echo > CALIFORNIA GENERAL CHAT FOR CALIFORNIA > COLORADO GENERAL CHAT FOR COLORADO > CONNECTICUT GENERAL CHAT FOR CONNECTICUT > DDS_ECHO DDS FDN Administrative Echo > DELAWARE GENERAL CHAT FOR DELAWARE > EBAY_CHAT A place to discuss EBAY buys and sells > FIDO_DISTRIBUTION Echomail Distribution System Discussions > FLORIDA GENERAL CHAT FOR FLORIDA > GEORGIA GENERAL CHAT FOR GEORGIA > HAWAII GENERAL CHAT FOR HAWAII > IDAHO GENERAL CHAT FOR IDAHO > ILLINOIS GENERAL CHAT FOR ILLINOIS > INDIANA GENERAL CHAT FOR INDIANA > IOWA GENERAL CHAT FOR IOWA > KANSAS GENERAL CHAT FOR KANSAS > KENTUCKY GENERAL CHAT FOR KENTUCKY > KOSOVO Discussions about the events in Kosovo > LOUISIANA GENERAL CHAT FOR LOUISIANA > MAINE GENERAL CHAT FOR MAINE > MARYLAND GENERAL CHAT FOR MARYLAND > MASSACHUSETTS GENERAL CHAT FOR MASSACHUSETTS FIDONEWS 16-19 Page 5 10 May 1999 > MINNESOTA GENERAL CHAT FOR MINNESOTA > MISSISSIPPI GENERAL CHAT FOR MISSISSIPPI > MISSOURI GENERAL CHAT FOR MISSOURI > MONTANA GENERAL CHAT FOR MONTANA > NEBRASKA GENERAL CHAT FOR NEBRASKA > NEVADA GENERAL CHAT FOR NEVADA > NEW_HAMPSHIRE GENERAL CHAT FOR NEW HAMPSHIRE > NEW_JERSEY GENERAL CHAT FOR NEW JERSEY > NEW_MEXICO GENERAL CHAT FOR NEW MEXICO > NEW_YORK GENERAL CHAT FOR NEW YORK > NORTH_DAKOTA GENERAL CHAT FOR NORTH DAKOTA > OHIO GENERAL CHAT FOR OHIO > OREGON GENERAL CHAT FOR OREGON > RHODE_ISLAND GENERAL CHAT FOR RHODE ISLAND > SOUTH_CAROLINA GENERAL CHAT FOR SOUTH CAROLINA > SOUTH_DAKOTA GENERAL CHAT FOR SOUTH DAKOTA > TENNESSEE GENERAL CHAT FOR TENNESSEE > UTAH GENERAL CHAT FOR UTAH > VERMONT GENERAL CHAT FOR VERMONT > VIRGINIA GENERAL CHAT FOR VIRGINIA > WASHINGTON GENERAL CHAT FOR WASHINGTON > WEBTV WEBTV > WEST_VIRGINIA GENERAL CHAT FOR WEST VIRGINIA > WISCONSIN GENERAL CHAT FOR WISCONSIN > WYOMING GENERAL CHAT FOR WYOMING > ZCC_SUNSHINE Crosspost msgs from ZCC-closed-conference Removed from the NAB list of echos ---------------------------------- < FIDO2000 FidoNet 2000 Conference < FIDOWEB FidoNet Web Page Conference < GOLDED.BETA GoldED Alpha, Beta, Gamma discussion. < INET_NODELIST FidoNet Nodelisting of Internet Sites < WIN99 Echo for the discussion of Windows 99 software ----------------------------------------------------------------- o There are 795 echos in backbone.na [02-May-99] (up 46) ----------------------------------------------------------------- NAB & Z1B Echo Diff by Lisa Gronke, 1:105/9 lisa@psg.com diff backbone.na (02-May-99) backbone.z1b (02-May-99) [edited] Echos on the NAB but not on the Z1B ----------------------------------- ALASKA GENERAL CHAT FOR ALASKA ARIZONA GENERAL CHAT FOR ARIZONA ARKANSAS_ GENERAL CHAT FOR ARKANSAS CALIFORNIA GENERAL CHAT FOR CALIFORNIA COLORADO GENERAL CHAT FOR COLORADO CONNECTICUT GENERAL CHAT FOR CONNECTICUT DELAWARE GENERAL CHAT FOR DELAWARE FIDONEWS 16-19 Page 6 10 May 1999 EQUUS HORSE DISCUSSION ECHO FLORIDA GENERAL CHAT FOR FLORIDA GEORGIA GENERAL CHAT FOR GEORGIA HAWAII GENERAL CHAT FOR HAWAII IDAHO GENERAL CHAT FOR IDAHO ILLINOIS GENERAL CHAT FOR ILLINOIS INDIANA GENERAL CHAT FOR INDIANA IOWA GENERAL CHAT FOR IOWA KANSAS GENERAL CHAT FOR KANSAS KENTUCKY GENERAL CHAT FOR KENTUCKY LOUISIANA GENERAL CHAT FOR LOUISIANA MAINE GENERAL CHAT FOR MAINE MARYLAND GENERAL CHAT FOR MARYLAND MASSACHUSETTS GENERAL CHAT FOR MASSACHUSETTS MINNESOTA GENERAL CHAT FOR MINNESOTA MISSISSIPPI GENERAL CHAT FOR MISSISSIPPI MISSOURI GENERAL CHAT FOR MISSOURI MONTANA GENERAL CHAT FOR MONTANA NEBRASKA GENERAL CHAT FOR NEBRASKA NEVADA GENERAL CHAT FOR NEVADA NEW_HAMPSHIRE GENERAL CHAT FOR NEW HAMPSHIRE NEW_JERSEY GENERAL CHAT FOR NEW JERSEY NEW_MEXICO GENERAL CHAT FOR NEW MEXICO NEW_YORK GENERAL CHAT FOR NEW YORK NORTH_DAKOTA GENERAL CHAT FOR NORTH DAKOTA OHIO GENERAL CHAT FOR OHIO OJ_SIMPSON O.J. Simpson discussion OREGON GENERAL CHAT FOR OREGON PARROTS PARROTS CONFERENCE RHODE_ISLAND GENERAL CHAT FOR RHODE ISLAND SOUTH_CAROLINA GENERAL CHAT FOR SOUTH CAROLINA SOUTH_DAKOTA GENERAL CHAT FOR SOUTH DAKOTA TENNESSEE GENERAL CHAT FOR TENNESSEE UTAH GENERAL CHAT FOR UTAH VERMONT GENERAL CHAT FOR VERMONT VIRGINIA GENERAL CHAT FOR VIRGINIA WASHINGTON GENERAL CHAT FOR WASHINGTON WEST_VIRGINIA GENERAL CHAT FOR WEST VIRGINIA WISCONSIN GENERAL CHAT FOR WISCONSIN WYOMING GENERAL CHAT FOR WYOMING Echos on the Z1B but not on the NAB ----------------------------------- None The NAB list, backbone.na (02-May-99) has 795 echos. The Z1B list, backbone.z1b (02-May-99) has 748 echos. ======================================================= ----------------------------------------------------------------- Z1 Backbone Echo Changes [Mar-Apr] by Lisa Gronke, 1:105/9 lisa@psg.com FIDONEWS 16-19 Page 7 10 May 1999 Summary of Z1B echo changes during Mar & Apr. Brought to you courtesy of (unix) diff. diff backbone.z1b 07-Mar-99 backbone.z1b 02-May-99 [edited]. Added to the Z1B list of echos ------------------------------ > BBBS.ENGLISH The International BBBS Support Echo > DDS_ECHO DDS FDN Administrative Echo > EBAY_CHAT A place to discuss EBAY buys and sells! > FIDO_DISTRIBUTION FidoNet Echomail Distribution System Discussions > KOSOVO Discussions about the events in Kosovo > WEBTV WEBTV > WIN2000 Windows 2000 Echo > ZCC_SUNSHINE Crosspost msgs from ZCC-closed-conference Removed from the Z1B list of echos ---------------------------------- < FIDO2000 FidoNet 2000 Conference < FIDOWEB FidoNet Web Page Conference < GOLDED.BETA GoldED Alpha, Beta, Gamma discussion. ----------------------------------------------------------------- o There are 748 echos in backbone.z1b [02-May-99] (up 5) ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 16-19 Page 8 10 May 1999 ================================================================= NOTICES ================================================================= Future History 12 May 1999 12th Anniversary of Fido Operations in Zone 4; 10th Anniversary of the creation of FidoNet Zone 4. 14 - 16 May 1999 V. BBachCon in Bleichenbach, Germany. For further information see: www.bbachcon.de 24 Jul 1999 XIII Pan American Games [through 8 Aug 99]. 9 Jun 1999 Tenth Anniversary of the adoption of FidoNet Policy 4.07. 10 Sep 1999 10th anniversary of Zone 5 operations. 26 Oct 1999 Thirty years from release Abbey Road album by the Beatles. 31 Dec 1999 Hogmanay, Scotland. The New Year that can't be missed. 1 Jan 2000 The 20th Century, C.E., is still taking place thru 31 Dec. 1 Jun 2000 EXPO 2000 World Exposition in Hannover (Germany) opens. 15 Sep 2000 Sydney (Australia) Summer Olympiad opens. 21 Sep 2000 10 years of FidoNet in +7 (xUSSR) 1 Jan 2001 This is the actual start of the new millennium, C.E. -- If YOU have something which you would like to see in this Future History, please send a note to the FidoNews Editor. ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 16-19 Page 9 10 May 1999 ================================================================= FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING ================================================================= Latest Greatest Software Versions by Peter E. Popovich, 1:228/158 Well, it has been quite a while. Been wondering if I should come back. Guess I just did. Everything is out of date. I've got a backlog, but while I catch up on old mail, I also want to get new mail as well. So write me. There's been some speculation about web page listings and e-mail addresses for this list. I do plan to add them to the web version of this list within the next couple of weeks. Please send them in. Please note the new contact info: Peter Popovich, 1:228/158 fido@popovich.net http://www.popovich.net/fido Peter Popovich -=- Snip -=- Submission form for the Latest Greatest Software Versions column OS Platform : Software package name : Version : Function(s) - BBS, Mailer, Tosser, etc. : Freeware / Shareware / Commercial? : Author / Support staff contact name : Author / Support staff contact node : Magic name (at the above-listed node) : Internet e-mail address : Web page : Please include a sentence describing what the package does. Please send updates and suggestions to: Peter Popovich, 1:228/158 -=- Snip -=- MS-DOS: Program Name Version F C Contact Name Node Magic Name ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Act-Up 4.6 G D Chris Gunn 1:15/55 ACT-UP ALLFIX 5.00 T S Harald Harms 2:281/415 ALLFIX Announcer 1.12 O S Peter Karlsson 2:206/221 ANNOUNCE BGFAX 1.60 O S B.J. Guillot 1:106/400 BGFAX Binkley Docs 2.60 M F Bob Juge 1:1/102 BDOC_260.ZIP BinkleyTerm 2.60 M F Bob Juge 1:1/102 BDOS_260.ZIP FIDONEWS 16-19 Page 10 10 May 1999 BinkleyTerm-XE XR5 M F Thomas Waldmann 2:2474/400 BTXE_DOS CFRoute 0.92 O G C. Fernandez Sanz 2:341/70 CFR CheckPnt 1.0a O G Michiel vd Vlist 2:500/9 CHECKPNT FastEcho 1.46.1 T S Tobias Burchhardt 2:2448/400 FASTECHO FastEcho/16 1.46.1 T S Tobias Burchhardt 2:2448/400 FEX FastLst 1.36 N S Alberto Pasquale 2:332/504 FASTLSTD FidoBBS (tm) 12u B S Ray Brown 1:1/117 FILES FrontDoor 2.12 M S JoHo 2:201/330 FD FrontDoor 2.20c M C JoHo 2:201/330 FDINFO GEcho 1.00 T S Bob Seaborn 1:140/12 GECHO GEcho/Plus 1.11 T C Bob Seaborn 1:140/12 GECHO GEcho/Pro 1.20 T C Bob Seaborn 1:140/12 GECHO GIGO 07-14-96 G S Jason Fesler 1:1/141 INFO GoldED 2.50 O S Len Morgan 1:203/730 GED GoldED/386 2.50 O S Len Morgan 1:203/730 GEX GoldED Docs 2.50 O S Len Morgan 1:203/730 GEM GoldNODE 2.50 O S Len Morgan 1:203/730 GEN Imail 1.75 T S Michael McCabe 1:1/121 IMAIL ImCrypt 1.04 O G Michiel vd Vlist 2:500/9 IMCRYPT InfoMail/86 1.21 O F Damian Walker 2:2502/666 INFOMAIL InfoMail/386 1.21 O F Damian Walker 2:2502/666 INFO386 JD's CBV 1.4 O S John Dailey 1:363/277 CBV Jelly-Bean 1.01 T S Rowan Crowe 3:635/727 JELLY Jelly-Bean/386 1.01 T S Rowan Crowe 3:635/727 JELLY386 JMail-Hudson 2.81 T S Jason Steck 1:285/424 JMAIL-H JMail-Goldbase 2.81 T S Jason Steck 1:285/424 JMAIL-G MakePl 1.9 N G Michiel vd Vlist 2:500/9 MAKEPL Marena 1.1 beta O G Michiel vd Vlist 2:500/9 MARENA Maximus 3.01 B P Tech 1:249/106 MAX Max User Ed. 0.18 O F Larry Cooke 1:300/53 MUE McMail 1.0 M S Michael McCabe 1:1/148 MCMAIL MDNDP 1.18 N S Bill Doyle 1:388/7 MDNDP Msged 4.10 O G Andrew Clarke 3:635/728 MSGED41D.ZIP Msged/386 4.10 O G Andrew Clarke 3:635/728 MSGED41X.ZIP NEF 2.38 O S Alberto Pasquale 2:332/504 NEFD NorthStar 3.31.29 B S A&B Darin 1:285/82 NSTAR Opus CBCS 1.79 B P Christopher Baker 1:374/14 OPUS O/T-Track 2.66 O S Peter Hampf 2:241/1090 OT PcMerge 2.8 N G Michiel vd Vlist 2:500/9 PCMERGE PlatinumXpress 1.3 M C Gary Petersen 1:290/111 PX13TD.ZIP QuickBBS 2.81 B S Ben Schollnick 1:2613/477 QUICKBBS RAR 2.01 C S Ron Dwight 2:220/22 RAR RemoteAccess 2.50 B S Mark Lewis 1:3634/12 RA Searchlight 4.5 B S Paul Casey 1:343/117 DEMO450.ZIP Searchlight 5.02 B C Paul Casey 1:343/117 SLBBS50.TXT Silver Xpress Door 5.4 O S Gary Petersen 1:290/111 FILES Reader 4.4 O S Gary Petersen 1:290/111 SXR44.ZIP Spitfire 3.51 B S Mike Weaver 1:3670/3 SPITFIRE Squish 1.11 T P Tech 1:249/106 SQUISH StealTag UK 1.c... O F Fred Schenk 2:284/412 STEAL_UK StealTag NL 1.c... O F Fred Schenk 2:284/412 STEAL_NL T-Mail 2.600 M S Ron Dwight 2:220/22 TMAIL Telegard 3.02 B F Tim Strike 1:259/423 TELEGARD Terminate 5.00 O S Bo Bendtsen 2:254/261 TERMINATE Tobruk 0.33 T G Paul Edwards 3:711/934 TOBRUK FIDONEWS 16-19 Page 11 10 May 1999 Tornado 1.50g B F Konst Klyagin 2:461/22 TORNADO TosScan 1.01 T C JoHo 2:201/330 TSINFO TransNet 1.00 G S Marc S. Ressl 4:904/72 TN100ALL.ZIP TriBBS 11.0 B S Gary Price 1:3607/26 TRIBBS TriDog 11.0 T F Gary Price 1:3607/26 TRIDOG TriToss 11.0 T S Gary Price 1:3607/26 TRITOSS WaterGate 0.93 G S Robert Szarka 1:320/42 WTRGATE WWIV 4.24a B S Craig Dooley 1:376/126 WWIV WWIVTOSS 1.36 T S Craig Dooley 1:376/126 WWIVTOSS xMail 2.00 T S Thorsten Franke 2:2448/53 XMAIL XRobot 3.01 O S JoHo 2:201/330 XRDOS OS/2: Program Name Version F C Contact Name Node Magic Name ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ALLFIX/2 5.00 T S Harald Harms 2:281/415 AFIXOS2 BGFAX 1.60 O S B.J. Guillot 1:106/400 BGFAX Binkley Docs 2.60 M F Bob Juge 1:1/102 BDOC_260.ZIP BinkleyTerm 2.60 M F Bob Juge 1:1/102 BOS2_260.ZIP BinkleyTerm-XE XR5 M F Thomas Waldmann 2:2474/400 BTXE_OS2 CFRoute 0.92 O G C. Fernandez Sanz 2:341/70 CFR FastEcho 1.46.1 T S Tobias Burchhardt 2:2448/400 FE2 FastLst 1.36 N S Alberto Pasquale 2:332/504 FASTLST FleetStreet 1.21 O S Michael Hohner 2:2490/2520 FLEET FP-OS/2 97-03-21 O F Mike Bilow 323/107 FPOS2 GEcho/Pro 1.20 T C Bob Seaborn 1:140/12 GECHO GIGO 07-14-96 G S Jason Fesler 1:1/141 INFO GoldED 2.50 O S Len Morgan 1:203/730 GEO GoldED Docs 2.50 O S Len Morgan 1:203/730 GEM GoldNODE 2.50 O S Len Morgan 1:203/730 GEN ImCrypt 1.04 O G Michiel vd Vlist 2:500/9 IMCRYPT Maximus 3.01 B P Tech 1:249/106 MAXP Max User Ed. 0.18 O F Larry Cooke 1:300/53 MUEP Msged/2 4.10 O G Andrew Clarke 3:635/728 MSGED41O.ZIP NEF 2.38 O S Alberto Pasquale 2:332/504 NEF PcMerge 2.3 N G Michiel vd Vlist 2:500/9 PCMERGE RAR 2.01 C S Ron Dwight 2:220/22 RAR2 Squish 1.11 T P Tech 1:249/106 SQUISHP T-Mail 2.600 M S Ron Dwight 2:220/22 TMAIL2 Tobruk 0.33 T G Paul Edwards 3:711/934 TOBRUK Tornado 1.50g B F Konst Klyagin 2:461/22 TORNADO2 WaterGate 0.93 G S Robert Szarka 1:320/42 WTRGATE XRobot 3.01 O S JoHo 2:201/330 XROS2 Windows (16-bit apps): Program Name Version F C Contact Name Node Magic Name ---------------------------------------------------------------------- BeeMail 1.0 M C Andrius Cepaitis 2:470/1 BEEMAIL FrontDoor APX 1.12 P S Mats Wallin 2:201/329 FDAPXW Windows (32-bit apps): Program Name Version F C Contact Name Node Magic Name ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Argus 95/IP 2.704 M S Max Masyutin 2:469/77 A9I Argus NT/IP 2.704 M S Max Masyutin 2:469/77 ANI BeeMail 1.0 M C Andrius Cepaitis 2:470/1 BEEMAIL FIDONEWS 16-19 Page 12 10 May 1999 Binkley Docs 2.60 M F Bob Juge 1:1/102 BDOC_260.ZIP BinkleyTerm 2.60 M F Bob Juge 1:1/102 BW32_260.ZIP BinkleyTerm-XE XR5 M F Thomas Waldmann 2:2474/400 BTXE_W32 CFRoute 0.92 O G C. Fernandez Sanz 2:341/70 CFR FastLst 1.36 N S Alberto Pasquale 2:332/504 FASTLSTW GoldED 2.50 O S Len Morgan 1:203/730 GEO GoldED Docs 2.50 O S Len Morgan 1:203/730 GEM Maximus 3.01 B P Tech 1:249/106 MAXN Msged/NT 4.10 O G Andrew Clarke 3:635/728 MSGED41W.ZIP NEF 2.38 O S Alberto Pasquale 2:332/504 NEFW PlatinumXpress 2.00 M C Gary Petersen 1:290/111 PXW-INFO Searchlight 5.02 B C Paul Casey 1:343/117 SLBBS50.TXT T-Mail 2.600 M S Ron Dwight 2:220/22 TMAILNT WinFOSSIL/95 1.12 r4 F S Bryan Woodruff 1:343/294 WNFOSSIL.ZIP WinFOSSIL/NT 1.0 beta F S Bryan Woodruff 1:343/294 NTFOSSIL.ZIP Unix: Program Name Version F C Contact Name Node Magic Name ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ifmail 2.12 M G Eugene Crosser 2:293/2219 IFMAIL ifmail-tx ...tx8.6 M G Pablo Saratxaga 2:293/2219 IFMAILTX ifmail-tx.rpm ...tx8.6 M G Pablo Saratxaga 2:293/2219 IFMAILTX.RPM Msged 4.00 O G Paul Edwards 3:711/934 MSGED Tobruk 0.33 T G Paul Edwards 3:711/934 TOBRUK Amiga: Program Name Version F C Contact Name Node Magic Name ---------------------------------------------------------------------- CrashMail 1.31 T X Rene Laederach 2:301/133 CRASHMAIL CrashTick 1.2 O F Rene Laederach 2:301/133 CRASHTICK DLG Pro BBOS 1.15 B C Holly Sullivan 1:202/720 DLGDEMO GMS 1.1.85 M S Mirko Viviani 2:331/213 GMS Msged 4.00 O G Paul Edwards 3:711/934 MSGED Tobruk 0.33 T G Paul Edwards 3:711/934 TOBRUK TrapDoor 1.86.b2 M S Maximilian Hantsch 2:310/6 TRAPDOOR TrapToss 1.50 T S Rene Hexel 2:310/6 TRAPTOSS Atari: Program Name Version F C Contact Name Node Magic Name ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ApplyList 1.00 N F Daniel Roesen 2:2432/1101 APLST100.LZH BinkleyTerm/ST 3.18pl2 M F Bill Scull 1:363/112 BINKLEY BTNC 2.00 N G Daniel Roesen 2:2432/1101 BTNC JetMail 0.99beta T S Joerg Spilker 2:2432/1101 JETMAIL Semper 0.80beta M S Jan Kriesten 2:2490/1624 SMP-BETA Function: B-BBS, P-Point, M-Mailer, N-Nodelist, G-Gateway, T-Tosser, C-Compression, F-Fossil, O-Other. Note: Multifunction will be listed by the first match. Cost: P-Free for personal use, F-Freeware, S-Shareware, C-Commercial, X-Crippleware, D-Demoware, G-Free w/ Source Please send updates and suggestions to: Peter Popovich, 1:228/158 FIDONEWS 16-19 Page 13 10 May 1999 ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 16-19 Page 14 10 May 1999 ================================================================= FIDONET BY INTERNET ================================================================= This is a list of all FidoNet-related sites reported to the FidoNews Editor as of this issue; see the notice at the end. FidoNet: Homepage http://www.fidonet.org FidoNews http://www.fidonews.org [HTML] http://209.77.228.66/fidonews.html [ASCII] WWW sources http://travel.to/fidonet/ FTSC page http://www.ftsc.org/ Echomail [pending] General http://owls.com/~jerrys/fidonet.html http://www.nrgsys.com/orb/foti List servers: http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/fidonet-discussion ============ Zone 1: http://www.z1.fidonet.org Region 10: http://www.psnw.com/~net205/region10.html Region 11: http://oeonline.com/~garyg/region11/ Region 13: http://www.net264.org/r13.htm Net 264: http://www.net264.org/ Region 14: Net 282: http://www.rxn.com/~net282/ Region 17: http://www.nwstar.com/~region17/ Region 18: http://techshop.pdn.net/fido/ Region 19: http://members.home.net/hbh3/r19 Zone 1 Elist http://www.baltimoremd.com/elist/ Not sure where the following should be placed: http://www.angelfire.com/biz/snwvlly/fido.html ============ Zone 2: http://www.z2.fidonet.org ZEC2: Zone 2 Elist: http://www.fbone.ch/echolist/ Region 20: http://www.fidonet.pp.se (in Swedish) FIDONEWS 16-19 Page 15 10 May 1999 Region 23: http://www.fido.dk (in Danish) Region 24: http://www.swb.de/personal/flop/gatebau.html (German) Fido-IP: http://home.nrh.de/~lbehet/fido (English/German) Region 25: http://www.bsnet.co.uk/net2502/net/ Region 26: http://www.nemesis.ie REC 26: http://www.nrgsys.com/orb Region 27: http://telematique.org/ft/r27.htm Region 29: http://www.rtfm.be/fidonet/ (French) Region 30: http://www.fidonet.ch (German) Region 33: http://www.fidoitalia.net (Italian) Region 34: http://www.pobox.com/cnb/r34.htm (Spanish) REC34: http://pobox.com/~chr Region 36: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/7207/ Region 38: http://public.st.carnet.hr/~blagi/bbs/adriam.html Region 41: http://www.fidonet.gr (Greek/English) Region 42: http://www.fido.cz Region 48: http://www.fidonet.org.pl Region 50: http://www.fido7.com/ (Russian) Net 5010: http://fido.tu-chel.ac.ru/ (Russian) Net 5015: http://www.fido.nnov.ru/ (Russian) Net 5030: http://kenga.ru/fido/ (Russian & English) Net 5073: http://people.weekend.ru/soa/ (Russian) Net 5085: http://www.fidonet.uz/ (Russian) ============ Zone 3: http://www.z3.fidonet.org ============ Zone 4: Region 90: http://visitweb.com/fidonet Net 903: http://www.playagrande.com/refugio Net 904: http://members.tripod.com/~net904 (Spanish) ============ Zone 5: http://www.eastcape.co.za/fidonet/ ============ FIDONEWS 16-19 Page 16 10 May 1999 Zone 6: http://www.z6.fidonet.org Region 65: http://www.cfido.com/fidonet/cfidochina.html (Chinese) ============ Pages listed above are as submitted to the FidoNews Editor, and generally reflect Zone and Regional Web Page sites. If no Regional site is submitted, the first Network page from that Region is used in its place. Generally, Regional pages should list access points to all Networks within the Region. TCP/IP accessible node access information should be submitted to the FidoNews Editor for inclusion in their Region or Zone. -----------oOo------------- Fidonet Via Internet Hubs Node# | Operator | Facilities (*) | Speed | Basic Rate -----------+-------------------+----------------+-------+------------ 1:12/12 | Ken Wilson | FTP | T1 | $24mo. 1:13/25 | Jim Balcom | FTP | 56k | $20mo. 1:106/1 | Matt Bedynek | BinkP, FTP | 128k | n/c 1:106/6018 | Lawrence Garvin | FTP, VMoT | 64k | $5/mo. 1:107/451 | Andy Knifel | FTP, VMoT, UUE | 33.6 | n/c 1:140/12 | Bob Seaborn | FTP | T1 | $5/$20 1:270/101 | George Peace | FTP | T1 | $30mo. 1:271/140 | Tom Barstow | UUE | T1 | n/c 1:275/1 | Joshua Ecklund | UUE | 28.8 | $10/yr. 1:280/169 | Brian Greenstreet | FTP | 33.6 | $2mo. 1:2401/305 | Peter Rocca | FTP,UUE | T1 | unkn 1:2424/10 | Alec Grynspan | FTP,UUE | T1 | n/c 1:2604/104 | Jim Mclaughlin | FTP,VMoT,UUE | 33.6 | $1mo. 1:2624/306 | D. Calafrancesco | VMoT | 33.6 | $15yr. 1:345/0 | Todd Cochrane | FTP | T1 | n/c 1:346/250 | Aran Spence | FTP,UUE | T1 | $10mo. 1:396/45 | Marc Lewis | UUE | 33.6 | $26/yr. 1:3651/9 | Jerry Gause | FTP,VMoT | 33.6 | $3/$6 1:396/1 | John Souvestre | FTP,VMoT | T1 | $15mo. 2:335/535 | Mario Mure | VMoT,UUE | 64k | n/c 2:254/175 | Alex Kemp | UUE | 56k | n/c 2:284/800 | Jeroen VanDeLeur | FTP,UUE | 64k | n/c 2:335/610 | Gino Lucrezi | UUE | 33.6 | n/c 2:469/84 | Max Masyutin | VMoT | 256k | n/c 2:2411/413 | Dennis Dittrich | UUE | 64k | n/c 2:2474/275 | Christian Emig | UUE | 64k | unkn 3:633/260 | Malcolm Miles | FTP | 33.6 | n/c 4:905/100 | Fabian Gervan | VMoT, UUE | ??? | n/c -- * FTP = Internet File Transfer Protocol * VMoT = Virtual Mailer over Telnet (various) * UUE = uuencode<->email type transfers [I'm only cataloging transfer methods, eg, ftp, email, telnet. Specific programs using these protocols are no longer being listed. Contact the system operators for details of which programs they have FIDONEWS 16-19 Page 17 10 May 1999 available.] Compiled by C. Ingersoll, 1:2623/71, (609)814-1978, fbn@dandy.net Posted on the 1st of every month in FN_SYSOP, R13SYSOP and Fidonews. ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 16-19 Page 18 10 May 1999 ================================================================= FIDONEWS INFORMATION ================================================================= ------- FIDONEWS MASTHEAD AND CONTACT INFORMATION ------- Editor: Henk Wolsink Editors Emeriti: Tom Jennings, Thom Henderson, Dale Lovell, Vince Perriello, Tim Pozar, Sylvia Maxwell, Donald Tees, Christopher Baker, Zorch Frezberg "FidoNews Editor" FidoNet 5:5/23 BBS +27-41-581-5913, 2400/9600/V34 more addresses: Henk Wolsink -- 5:7104/2, hwolsink@catpe.alt.za (Postal Service mailing address) FidoNews Editor P.O. 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