F I D O N E W S Volume 16, Number 11 15 March 1999 +----------------------------+---------------------------------------+ | The newsletter of the | ISSN 1198-4589 Published by: | | FidoNet community | "FidoNews" | | _ | +27-41-581-5913 [5:5/23] | | / \ | | | /|oo \ | | | (_| /_) | | | _`@/_ \ _ | | | | | \ \\ | Editor: | | | (*) | \ )) | Henk Wolsink 5:7104/2 | | |__U__| / \// | | | _//|| _\ / | | | (_/(_|(____/ | | | (jm) | Newspapers should have no friends. | | | -- JOSEPH PULITZER | +----------------------------+---------------------------------------+ | Submission address: FidoNews Editor 5:5/23 | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | MORE addresses: | | | | submissions=> editor@fidonews.org | | hwolsink@catpe.alt.za | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | For information, copyrights, article submissions, | | obtaining copies of FidoNews or the internet gateway FAQ | | please refer to the end of this file. | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ Table of Contents 1. EDITORIAL ................................................ 1 2. GUEST EDITORIAL .......................................... 2 Nodus Operandi - an application of Cole's Law ............ 2 3. LETTERS TO THE EDITOR .................................... 4 In response to Rob Echler's recent submission: ........... 4 4. ARTICLES ................................................. 5 NAB & Z1B Echo Diff ...................................... 5 The Fido/IP project: Fidonet's future - Successful and ... 5 InterMail/InterEcho Has a New Owner! ..................... 7 North American Backbone Echo Changes [Jan-Feb] ........... 7 Another sad article? ..................................... 8 Z1 Backbone Echo Changes [Jan-Feb] ....................... 9 5. NOTICES .................................................. 11 6. FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING ................................. 12 Latest Greatest Software Versions ........................ 12 7. FIDONET BY INTERNET ...................................... 17 8. FIDONEWS INFORMATION ..................................... 21 FIDONEWS 16-11 Page 1 15 Mar 1999 ================================================================= EDITORIAL ================================================================= Greetings, Will those readers who submit articles, please note, that when submitting such articles please ensure you send them in standard ASCII format. No HTML, thank you. My Internet address system, is a plain Linux system. ;-) Will some kind sole, please send something for the readers out there in explaining what has been happening with the breakup of the Z1 backbone? But please, do apply KISS. Thanks. I've had a few questions about it, but not residing in Z1, I cannot clearly provide the correct or any answer. Thanks again. Does it not makes you cry, reading all those sad stories about how good FidoNet was and why they, the authors, are leaving? ;-) Hey, we know it's good, it always was good and always will be good, provided, we get rid of P4. Common, do we really need P4? Take some of those characters, they not sure how to read, nevermind P4. ;-) Happy reading, ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 16-11 Page 2 15 Mar 1999 ================================================================= GUEST EDITORIAL ================================================================= Nodus Operandi - an application of Cole's Law Nodus Operandi An Application of Cole's Law Douglas Myers, 1:279/720, doug@mdtnbbs.com Regular readers of the Zone 1 echoes realize that Fidonet is governed by two great documents: the organizational writings of Policy 4 and the thinly sliced cabbage of Cole's Law. Tom Cole, the author of the latter living document, revealed yet another subtlety of interpersonal communication last week in a new section of his policy entitled Nodus Operandi. Nodus Operandi basically allows for multiple personality identification based on node number. This is not a new treatment for schizophrenia, but rather a method of distinguishing between a person as the sysop or as the coordinator. Simply put, coordinators must post from their /0 node number when they wish to speak as coordinator, or from their "real" node number when posting as a sysop. This bit of administrative legerdemain was in response to the prospect of a Policy Complaint being filed against Tom. Tom contends that the aggrieved party would have to file the complaint with Tom /0 rather than the RC because Tom's posts were made using his "real" node number. Many have complained about the prospect of Tom the NC sitting in judgement of Tom the sysop, but few recognize that Mr. Cole may just be onto something here. Why not have administrative node numbers for special purposes? For example, when David Hallford is engaged in pizza acquisition, I (for one) would like to know. Martin Blecke recently refused to divulge his personal opinion on how the Z1C should be selected on the basis that folks would interpret it as his official opinion (the official position presumably being based on his region's input). If he would just post using his "real" node number, then there would be no ambiguity. I, personally, would be willing to switch the AKA matching software off in my mailer and BBS to gain the many benefits of posting from special node numbers. I could maintain one node number when I'm posting as an Ace Fidonews Reporter and another when I'm posting in the chat echoes as a Lounge Lizard. That way, when I strike out, it wouldn't impugn on the good name of Fidonews... and when I post a dry, uninteresting Fidonews article, I could flirt in the SUPERBITCH echo. One should not be afraid to examine the runes in the cabbage leaves for a good idea. After all, ancient cultures examined entrails for enlightenment. FIDONEWS 16-11 Page 3 15 Mar 1999 ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 16-11 Page 4 15 Mar 1999 ================================================================= LETTERS TO THE EDITOR ================================================================= I have been in associated with Fidonet since 1990. While that may not be as long as some, but it's longer than others. When I first joined Fidonet I was amazed at the vast amount of information being spread around. There was an echo for just about anyone. I was sold. I learned much of what I know in several areas today due to Fidonet and the geat poeple associated with it. Their names are too many to list. Infact I owe much of my currently career in the Infomation Technology industry to Fidonet. We are in new times. Many don't even know what a BBS or Fidonet is anymore. We are not main stream. However, the amount of information being disseminated is still amzing. I recently devloped a intrest in getting my kids involved in precision shooting and learning how to hand load ammunition. I post messages in a couple relevant echoes. Because of these posts and the subsequent replies my kids and I were able to attend a local course on high power shooting. They really liked it. We met some really great people, most of whom are not associated with Fidonet, over the course of the past two weekends. I have received a vast amount of help and information in regards to hand loading. It has enabled to to learn from the mistakes of others and avoid making the same mistakes myself. The only complaint I have ever had with Fidonet is the well earned stigma of it really being "Fight-O-Net". I really wish the powers that be within the Fidonet infastructure would learn to live in harmony. I know that years ago in my own net we were stuck in the muck of "back room politics" and ego's clashing. We worked to get out of this and we did. We lost some nodes. But we are a much better group now. In my opinon we have people here that need to try and make Fidonet not so complicated and work together to keep this great communications medium alive and healthy. As with everything else we need to evolve or die out. I honestly feel that if Fidonet's people do not get their acts together we might fade away into the dark of night. We need to get back to the basics. This is a amateur mail/message network. Do we really need all of these extra groups and commitees that are still point fingers, making accusations, and squabbling over basically the same things they have been for years? If Fidonet continues to thrive it's to our benefit an credit. If Fidonet dies out it's all our fault too. What do we want? Rgds, Don Waybright internet email: don@net264.org Fidonet 1:264 : http://www.net264.org ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 16-11 Page 5 15 Mar 1999 ================================================================= ARTICLES ================================================================= NAB & Z1B Echo Diff by Lisa Gronke, 1:105/9 lisa@psg.com The old NAB (North American Backbone) split into two parts at the end of February, 1999. The divorce created two distribution systems, the (new) NAB with about 58% of the topology, and the Z1B (Z1_Backbone) with about 42% of the topology. The (new) NAB echo list is backbone.na. ELISTed echos will be added to backbone.na by the NAB at the moderator's request (no REC requests needed). Echos are removed from backbone.na at the moderator's request. Echo removal by the NAB for other reasons (low traffic or expired ELIST entry) is not currently implemented, but is being discussed. The Z1B list of echos is called backbone.z1b. Echo addition and deletion procedures are similar to those used by the NAB in the past, and are described in the document SLA9903.Z1B. Briefly, the moderator of a wannabe echo needs to request addition to the Z1B and two Hubs or RECs need to request that the echo be added. Echos are removed from backbone.z1b at the moderators request. Echos may also be removed from backbone.z1b by the Z1B because of low traffic or no current ELIST entry. diff backbone.na (07-Mar-99) backbone.z1b (07-Mar-99) [edited] Echos on the NAB but not on the Z1B ----------------------------------- EQUUS HORSE DISCUSSION ECHO INET_NODELIST FidoNet Nodelisting of Internet Sites OJ_SIMPSON O.J. Simpson discussion PARROTS PARROTS CONFERENCE WIN2000 Discussions of potential convergence of Win95 WIN99 Echo for the discussion of Windows 99 software Echos on the Z1B but not on the NAB ----------------------------------- None The NAB list, backbone.na (07-Mar-99) has 749 echos. The Z1B list, backbone.z1b (07-Mar-99) has 743 echos. ----------------------------------------------------------------- By David Moufarrege, 1:2613/404.0 Over the past few years I have come accustomed to reading the snooze each week as it finds itself into my mailbox. It seems that a gloom and doom article are appearing in the snooze at least monthly. FIDONEWS 16-11 Page 6 15 Mar 1999 Usually it is a departing node or a former node trying to get in a parting shot, telling the rest of us how bad it is. Well, I have some news... It's not that bad! Fidonet is going through changes, just as every other aspect of Information Technology. Why would we be any different? Why would we expect not to have to change along with the currents of technology? We cannot expect to hold onto the past without embracing the future. A future that has unlimited opportunities if we approach it with the same sense of camaraderie and pioneering that this network was founded on in the first place - a future that seeks out new frontiers. The new frontier these days is Fido/IP integration, making Fidonet systems available on the Internet. It's the only way to let new generations of computer users experience what we already know. It is also a way of reaching those that have "migrated". Meet the Fido/IP project: The Fido/IP project is based on the premise that Fidonet has to embrace new technologies and philosophies while continuing to support its traditional membership. The goal is to create a coherent network that contains both POTS and IP nodes alike. The notion to use the Internet as a transport medium is not new. George Peace was the pioneer in utilizing FTP as a means to inexpensively and quickly move mail and files over great distances. Then came VModem and the idea to use Telnet as a "carrier" for standard protocols to connect via the Internet. Now we have BinkP - a protocol designed to work directly over the Internet, socket to socket. As a matter of fact, BinkP is the first protocol that was designed as a Fido/IP protocol, and it is the first protocol to then be adapted to a Fido POTS protocol in its Niagara incarnation. To make a long story short: Today there is a growing number of Fido/IP systems. Zone 1 and Zone 2 have implemented the I-suite of flags proposed by Lothar Behet. Zone 3 is reportedly close to doing the same. More and more mailer programs and bbs systems are natively IP-capable. Fidonet's structures and ways of interacting are changing as a result of it. New nodes are joining Fidonet and former nodes are coming back. It's a slow process, but it is a growing trend. We will see more of it as time goes on. If you want to embrace this new era, check out the following programs: Argus - A Win/32 native GUI POTS & Fido/IP mailer. Supports BinkP, IFCICO, Telnet, VModem - www.ritlabs.com/argus/ BinkD - The original BinkP mailer. Compiled for *NIX, WinNT, Win9x, OS/2, and others BeeMail - 16 and 32bit POTS & Fido/IP mailer. Win 3.1, Win9x and WinNT - www.beemail.com BBBS - BBS system which includes "BackDoor", a telnet capable FIDONEWS 16-11 Page 7 15 Mar 1999 Fidonet mailer for many platforms - www.bbbs.net EleBBS - A Remote Access compatible BBS which includes a native Telnet server. Various platforms. - www.pcmicro.com NetModem- Win95 Telnet server for DOS based BBS systems. - www.concentric.net/~Drip WC!5 - WildCat!5 AKA WinServer. - www.santronics.com VModem - Part of SIO, a driver for OS/2. - www.gwinn.com Also, subscribe to the INODELST and I-OTHER file echos for the latest nodelist extracts of IP capable Fidonet nodes and Fido/IP utilities. Available from all FileGate systems. For more information about Fido/IP contact David Moufarrege, 1:2613/404.0, in Zone 1. In Zone 2 contact Lothar Behet, 2:2446/301.0 ----------------------------------------------------------------- InterMail Products Sold by Dale Barnes, dbarnes@ifido.com In the Month of February, Further Development, Inc., sold its products InterMail, InterEcho and InterPCB to Majik.Net, Inc. of Sugar Land, TX. Majik.Net, Inc., a Internet Service Provider and developer of custom Delphi applications purchased InterMail to use for special needs of some if its customers and to keep the product advancing for the current install base of InterMail customers. Majik.Net, Inc. has already started working on the next version of InterMail to add new features and make sure it is Y2K compliant. In the works now are a Win9x/NT version with a OS/2 version is a real possibility. If you would like to have some input on the direction that InterMail and InterEcho takes in the future and to stay up to date with InterMail and InterEcho. Visit the new web site at www.ifido.com or send email to sales@ifido.com. ----------------------------------------------------------------- North American Backbone Echo Changes [Jan-Feb] by Lisa Gronke, 1:105/9 lisa@psg.com Summary of NAB echo changes during Jan & Feb. Brought to you courtesy of (unix) diff. The old NAB (North American Backbone) split into two parts at the end of February, 1999. The divorce created two distribution systems, the (new) NAB with about 58% of the topology, and the FIDONEWS 16-11 Page 8 15 Mar 1999 Z1B (Z1_Backbone) with about 42% of the topology. The (new) NAB adds echos at the moderator's request. The wannabe echo must have an ELIST entry, but there are no other requirements. Echos are removed from the NAB at the moderator's request. The NAB is still discussing how they will handle echos with an expired ELIST entry. diff backbone.na 03-Jan-99 backbone.na 07-Mar-99 [edited]. Added to the NAB list of echos ------------------------------ > ALABAMA GENERAL CHAT FOR ALABAMA > EMS-FR Emergency Medical Services -First Responder > FIDO2000 FidoNet 2000 Conference > FIDOWEB FidoNet Web Page Conference > FILEGATE IFDC FileGate Project(sm) International Echo > F_I_D_O_E_R_R_O_R_S fIDO ERRORS > HCW_ECHO Fantasy Wrestling Echo > LS_ARRL Bulletins from the ARRL > MICHIGAN GENERAL CHAT FOR MICHIGAN > OJ_SIMPSON O.J. Simpson discussion > PEN_PALS Where Friends Meet! > ROLLER_JAM ROLLER JAM Discussion Conference > TEXAS GENERAL CHAT FOR TEXAS > WIN2000 Discussions of potential convergence of Win95 > WIN99 Echo for the discussion of Windows 99 software > XENA:WP Gathering place for fans of the hit show Xena > Z1BACKBONE Z1B discussion Removed from the NAB list of echos ---------------------------------- None ----------------------------------------------------------------- o There are 749 echos in backbone.na [07-Mar-98] (up 17) ----------------------------------------------------------------- After reading Rob Echlers Fidonet obituary (Volume 14, #10), I have decided to pen my own. I bought my first 300 baud modem in 1981 and started my first BBS a few years later, joining Fidonet in 1984. Many thousands of hours of my life was spent in echomail and netmail, and most of my lifelong friends were met through Fidonet or BBSing. I have no regrets about this time spent in my youth, as I learnt much about sociology and human relationships from this time. Now I'm a I.T. consultant and Project Manager, and owe much of my success to my experience in Fidonet. In fact, I suspect that many people now in their 30s who got into Fidonet in their teens have had much success in their lives due to the unique experiences that Fidonet offered. What better way to learn how to manage people than to become a echomail moderator, or to gain technical proess by running Multiple BBS and mail sessions FIDONEWS 16-11 Page 9 15 Mar 1999 concurrently under desqview! A few weeks ago, I found an old 80MB Hard Drive lying around and plugged it in to discover my BBS, Front Door, Fmail and echo areas that I thought had been long lost. I had a great laugh reading all the OS/2 will destroy Windows flames, (where are all the OS/2 bigots now?), and wondered if there was anything resembling a shell of Fidonet left. In a sudden burst of nostalgia, I tried to get everything running again and maybe even join Fidonet again to see out its last, but alas I was too late. I compiled my ancient nodelist (it makes you realise how fast computer have become when it took 10 seconds instead of 2-3 minutes!) and tried to File Request an up to date nodelist, but not one system was left to poll from, and I couldn't even find a single BBS to connect to. In the end I gave up, so this message will have to do as my goodbye. It is a very slow and painful death that Fidonet is going through, and I believe it would be a great idea to go out on a high note and pull the plug formally at the end of this year - to mark Fidonet as a 20th Icon as a precursor to the Internet. However, the reality is that the threads of cohesion are too weak now for any cohesive decisions to be reached at any level within Fidonet. So for a time the ghosts will continue to haunt what once was Fidonet. These are the outsiders, most of them running linux or OS/2, but never Windows with outlook for e-mail and newsreader. People who once dreamed and begged to become a "hub", can now become their own NCs and even ZCs if they wish! One request - Please keep any old echomail (esp Sysop areas) archives that you have stored. I know that one day soon, Fidonet will be preserved and remembered in much the same way as my TRS-80 model 1, with a virtual emulator. On the Internet you will be able to connect to a virtual BBS and browse through the past with records of echomail, doors and games from a bygone era. I can imagine a Java nodelist compiler emulator, and emulated copies of everything from Opus to Frontdoor, allowing you to install a virtual BBS on the Net and even emulate the connections to other virtual systems to enable Netmail to flow again, but this time, just for the sake of fun and remembering the good old days. I look forward to this new project kicking off, and hope that there are many ex Sysops out there with an archive of their systems that can contribute to the virtual Fidonet archives. So on this positive note, I bid goodbye and farwell. Tim Epstein ex 3:635/526, ex3:634/304, ----------------------------------------------------------------- Z1 Backbone Echo Changes by Lisa Gronke, 1:105/9 lisa@psg.com Summary of Z1B echo changes during Jan & Feb. Brought to you courtesy of (unix) diff. The old NAB (North American Backbone) split into two parts at the end of February, 1999. The divorce created two distribution systems, the (new) NAB with about 58% of the topology, and the FIDONEWS 16-11 Page 10 15 Mar 1999 Z1B (Z1_Backbone) with about 42% of the topology. The Z1B "grandfathered" existing NAB echos as of 28-Feb-99, but sent mail to all moderators advising them that they could remove their echos from the Z1B. Unlike the (new) NAB, the Z1B requires two Hub or REC requests before a new Z1B wannabe echo will be added to the list of Z1B echos (backbone.z1b). Also unlike the (new) NAB, the Z1B is expected to purge echos that do not meet minimum traffic requirements or whose ELIST entry expires. For these reasons, the Z1B list (backbone.z1b) is expected to diverge from the NAB list (backbone.na) over time, and may be temporarily out-of-sync for a week or two on new echos that are requesting addition to both backbones. What I have done here is a "two month diff" between the last NAB list that I reported and the current Z1B list. This means that most of the echos in the "Added to the Z1B list of echos" were actually added to the NAB before the divorce. diff backbone.na 03-Jan-99 backbone.z1b 07-Mar-99 [edited]. Added to the Z1B list of echos ------------------------------ ALABAMA GENERAL CHAT FOR ALABAMA EMS-FR Emergency Medical Services -First Responder FIDO2000 FidoNet 2000 Conference FIDOWEB FidoNet Web Page Conference FILEGATE IFDC FileGate Project(sm) International Echo F_I_D_O_E_R_R_O_R_S fIDO ERRORS HCW_ECHO Fantasy Wrestling Echo LS_ARRL Bulletins from the ARRL MICHIGAN GENERAL CHAT FOR MICHIGAN PEN_PALS Where Friends Meet! ROLLER_JAM ROLLER JAM Discussion Conference TEXAS GENERAL CHAT FOR TEXAS XENA:WP Gathering place for fans of the hit show Xena Z1BACKBONE Z1B discussion Removed from the Z1B list of echos ---------------------------------- EQUUS HORSE DISCUSSION ECHO INET_NODELIST FidoNet Nodelisting of Internet Sites PARROTS PARROTS CONFERENCE ----------------------------------------------------------------- o There are 743 echos in backbone.z1b [07-Mar-98] ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 16-11 Page 11 15 Mar 1999 ================================================================= NOTICES ================================================================= Future History 12 May 1999 12th Anniversary of Fido Operations in Zone 4; 10th Anniversary of the creation of FidoNet Zone 4. 24 Jul 1999 XIII Pan American Games [through 8 Aug 99]. 9 Jun 1999 Tenth Anniversary of the adoption of FidoNet Policy 4.07. 10 Sep 1999 10th anniversary of Zone 5 operations. 26 Oct 1999 Thirty years from release Abbey Road album by the Beatles. 31 Dec 1999 Hogmanay, Scotland. The New Year that can't be missed. 1 Jan 2000 The 20th Century, C.E., is still taking place thru 31 Dec. 1 Jun 2000 EXPO 2000 World Exposition in Hannover (Germany) opens. 15 Sep 2000 Sydney (Australia) Summer Olympiad opens. 21 Sep 2000 10 years of FidoNet in +7 (xUSSR) 1 Jan 2001 This is the actual start of the new millennium, C.E. -- If YOU have something which you would like to see in this Future History, please send a note to the FidoNews Editor. ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 16-11 Page 12 15 Mar 1999 ================================================================= FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING ================================================================= Latest Greatest Software Versions by Peter E. Popovich, 1:228/158 Well, it has been quite a while. Been wondering if I should come back. Guess I just did. Everything is out of date. I've got a backlog, but while I catch up on old mail, I also want to get new mail as well. So write me. There's been some speculation about web page listings and e-mail addresses for this list. I do plan to add them to the web version of this list within the next couple of weeks. Please send them in. Please note the new contact info: Peter Popovich, 1:228/158 fido@popovich.net http://www.popovich.net/fido Peter Popovich -=- Snip -=- Submission form for the Latest Greatest Software Versions column OS Platform : Software package name : Version : Function(s) - BBS, Mailer, Tosser, etc. : Freeware / Shareware / Commercial? : Author / Support staff contact name : Author / Support staff contact node : Magic name (at the above-listed node) : Internet e-mail address : Web page : Please include a sentence describing what the package does. Please send updates and suggestions to: Peter Popovich, 1:228/158 -=- Snip -=- MS-DOS: Program Name Version F C Contact Name Node Magic Name ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Act-Up 4.6 G D Chris Gunn 1:15/55 ACT-UP ALLFIX 5.00 T S Harald Harms 2:281/415 ALLFIX Announcer 1.12 O S Peter Karlsson 2:206/221 ANNOUNCE BGFAX 1.60 O S B.J. Guillot 1:106/400 BGFAX Binkley Docs 2.60 M F Bob Juge 1:1/102 BDOC_260.ZIP BinkleyTerm 2.60 M F Bob Juge 1:1/102 BDOS_260.ZIP FIDONEWS 16-11 Page 13 15 Mar 1999 BinkleyTerm-XE XR5 M F Thomas Waldmann 2:2474/400 BTXE_DOS CFRoute 0.92 O G C. Fernandez Sanz 2:341/70 CFR CheckPnt 1.0a O G Michiel vd Vlist 2:500/9 CHECKPNT FastEcho 1.46.1 T S Tobias Burchhardt 2:2448/400 FASTECHO FastEcho/16 1.46.1 T S Tobias Burchhardt 2:2448/400 FEX FastLst 1.36 N S Alberto Pasquale 2:332/504 FASTLSTD FidoBBS (tm) 12u B S Ray Brown 1:1/117 FILES FrontDoor 2.12 M S JoHo 2:201/330 FD FrontDoor 2.20c M C JoHo 2:201/330 FDINFO GEcho 1.00 T S Bob Seaborn 1:140/12 GECHO GEcho/Plus 1.11 T C Bob Seaborn 1:140/12 GECHO GEcho/Pro 1.20 T C Bob Seaborn 1:140/12 GECHO GIGO 07-14-96 G S Jason Fesler 1:1/141 INFO GoldED 2.50 O S Len Morgan 1:203/730 GED GoldED/386 2.50 O S Len Morgan 1:203/730 GEX GoldED Docs 2.50 O S Len Morgan 1:203/730 GEM GoldNODE 2.50 O S Len Morgan 1:203/730 GEN Imail 1.75 T S Michael McCabe 1:1/121 IMAIL ImCrypt 1.04 O G Michiel vd Vlist 2:500/9 IMCRYPT InfoMail/86 1.21 O F Damian Walker 2:2502/666 INFOMAIL InfoMail/386 1.21 O F Damian Walker 2:2502/666 INFO386 InterEcho 1.19 T C Peter Stewart 1:369/35 IEDEMO InterMail 2.29k M C Peter Stewart 1:369/35 IMDEMO InterPCB 1.52 O S Peter Stewart 1:369/35 INTERPCB IPNet 1.11 O S Michele Stewart 1:369/21 IPNET JD's CBV 1.4 O S John Dailey 1:363/277 CBV Jelly-Bean 1.01 T S Rowan Crowe 3:635/727 JELLY Jelly-Bean/386 1.01 T S Rowan Crowe 3:635/727 JELLY386 JMail-Hudson 2.81 T S Jason Steck 1:285/424 JMAIL-H JMail-Goldbase 2.81 T S Jason Steck 1:285/424 JMAIL-G MakePl 1.9 N G Michiel vd Vlist 2:500/9 MAKEPL Marena 1.1 beta O G Michiel vd Vlist 2:500/9 MARENA Maximus 3.01 B P Tech 1:249/106 MAX Max User Ed. 0.18 O F Larry Cooke 1:300/53 MUE McMail 1.0 M S Michael McCabe 1:1/148 MCMAIL MDNDP 1.18 N S Bill Doyle 1:388/7 MDNDP Msged 4.10 O G Andrew Clarke 3:635/728 MSGED41D.ZIP Msged/386 4.10 O G Andrew Clarke 3:635/728 MSGED41X.ZIP NEF 2.38 O S Alberto Pasquale 2:332/504 NEFD NorthStar 3.31.29 B S A&B Darin 1:285/82 NSTAR Opus CBCS 1.79 B P Christopher Baker 1:374/14 OPUS O/T-Track 2.66 O S Peter Hampf 2:241/1090 OT PcMerge 2.8 N G Michiel vd Vlist 2:500/9 PCMERGE PlatinumXpress 1.3 M C Gary Petersen 1:290/111 PX13TD.ZIP QuickBBS 2.81 B S Ben Schollnick 1:2613/477 QUICKBBS RAR 2.01 C S Ron Dwight 2:220/22 RAR RemoteAccess 2.50 B S Mark Lewis 1:3634/12 RA Searchlight 4.5 B S Paul Casey 1:343/117 DEMO450.ZIP Searchlight 5.02 B C Paul Casey 1:343/117 SLBBS50.TXT Silver Xpress Door 5.4 O S Gary Petersen 1:290/111 FILES Reader 4.4 O S Gary Petersen 1:290/111 SXR44.ZIP Spitfire 3.51 B S Mike Weaver 1:3670/3 SPITFIRE Squish 1.11 T P Tech 1:249/106 SQUISH StealTag UK 1.c... O F Fred Schenk 2:284/412 STEAL_UK StealTag NL 1.c... O F Fred Schenk 2:284/412 STEAL_NL FIDONEWS 16-11 Page 14 15 Mar 1999 T-Mail 2.600 M S Ron Dwight 2:220/22 TMAIL Telegard 3.02 B F Tim Strike 1:259/423 TELEGARD Terminate 5.00 O S Bo Bendtsen 2:254/261 TERMINATE Tobruk 0.33 T G Paul Edwards 3:711/934 TOBRUK Tornado 1.50g B F Konst Klyagin 2:461/22 TORNADO TosScan 1.01 T C JoHo 2:201/330 TSINFO TransNet 1.00 G S Marc S. Ressl 4:904/72 TN100ALL.ZIP TriBBS 11.0 B S Gary Price 1:3607/26 TRIBBS TriDog 11.0 T F Gary Price 1:3607/26 TRIDOG TriToss 11.0 T S Gary Price 1:3607/26 TRITOSS WaterGate 0.93 G S Robert Szarka 1:320/42 WTRGATE WWIV 4.24a B S Craig Dooley 1:376/126 WWIV WWIVTOSS 1.36 T S Craig Dooley 1:376/126 WWIVTOSS xMail 2.00 T S Thorsten Franke 2:2448/53 XMAIL XRobot 3.01 O S JoHo 2:201/330 XRDOS OS/2: Program Name Version F C Contact Name Node Magic Name ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ALLFIX/2 5.00 T S Harald Harms 2:281/415 AFIXOS2 BGFAX 1.60 O S B.J. Guillot 1:106/400 BGFAX Binkley Docs 2.60 M F Bob Juge 1:1/102 BDOC_260.ZIP BinkleyTerm 2.60 M F Bob Juge 1:1/102 BOS2_260.ZIP BinkleyTerm-XE XR5 M F Thomas Waldmann 2:2474/400 BTXE_OS2 CFRoute 0.92 O G C. Fernandez Sanz 2:341/70 CFR FastEcho 1.46.1 T S Tobias Burchhardt 2:2448/400 FE2 FastLst 1.36 N S Alberto Pasquale 2:332/504 FASTLST FleetStreet 1.21 O S Michael Hohner 2:2490/2520 FLEET FP-OS/2 97-03-21 O F Mike Bilow 323/107 FPOS2 GEcho/Pro 1.20 T C Bob Seaborn 1:140/12 GECHO GIGO 07-14-96 G S Jason Fesler 1:1/141 INFO GoldED 2.50 O S Len Morgan 1:203/730 GEO GoldED Docs 2.50 O S Len Morgan 1:203/730 GEM GoldNODE 2.50 O S Len Morgan 1:203/730 GEN ImCrypt 1.04 O G Michiel vd Vlist 2:500/9 IMCRYPT Maximus 3.01 B P Tech 1:249/106 MAXP Max User Ed. 0.18 O F Larry Cooke 1:300/53 MUEP Msged/2 4.10 O G Andrew Clarke 3:635/728 MSGED41O.ZIP NEF 2.38 O S Alberto Pasquale 2:332/504 NEF PcMerge 2.3 N G Michiel vd Vlist 2:500/9 PCMERGE RAR 2.01 C S Ron Dwight 2:220/22 RAR2 Squish 1.11 T P Tech 1:249/106 SQUISHP T-Mail 2.600 M S Ron Dwight 2:220/22 TMAIL2 Tobruk 0.33 T G Paul Edwards 3:711/934 TOBRUK Tornado 1.50g B F Konst Klyagin 2:461/22 TORNADO2 WaterGate 0.93 G S Robert Szarka 1:320/42 WTRGATE XRobot 3.01 O S JoHo 2:201/330 XROS2 Windows (16-bit apps): Program Name Version F C Contact Name Node Magic Name ---------------------------------------------------------------------- BeeMail 1.0 M C Andrius Cepaitis 2:470/1 BEEMAIL FrontDoor APX 1.12 P S Mats Wallin 2:201/329 FDAPXW Windows (32-bit apps): Program Name Version F C Contact Name Node Magic Name FIDONEWS 16-11 Page 15 15 Mar 1999 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Argus 95/IP 2.704 M S Max Masyutin 2:469/77 A9I Argus NT/IP 2.704 M S Max Masyutin 2:469/77 ANI BeeMail 1.0 M C Andrius Cepaitis 2:470/1 BEEMAIL Binkley Docs 2.60 M F Bob Juge 1:1/102 BDOC_260.ZIP BinkleyTerm 2.60 M F Bob Juge 1:1/102 BW32_260.ZIP BinkleyTerm-XE XR5 M F Thomas Waldmann 2:2474/400 BTXE_W32 CFRoute 0.92 O G C. Fernandez Sanz 2:341/70 CFR FastLst 1.36 N S Alberto Pasquale 2:332/504 FASTLSTW GoldED 2.50 O S Len Morgan 1:203/730 GEO GoldED Docs 2.50 O S Len Morgan 1:203/730 GEM Maximus 3.01 B P Tech 1:249/106 MAXN Msged/NT 4.10 O G Andrew Clarke 3:635/728 MSGED41W.ZIP NEF 2.38 O S Alberto Pasquale 2:332/504 NEFW PlatinumXpress 2.00 M C Gary Petersen 1:290/111 PXW-INFO Searchlight 5.02 B C Paul Casey 1:343/117 SLBBS50.TXT T-Mail 2.600 M S Ron Dwight 2:220/22 TMAILNT WinFOSSIL/95 1.12 r4 F S Bryan Woodruff 1:343/294 WNFOSSIL.ZIP WinFOSSIL/NT 1.0 beta F S Bryan Woodruff 1:343/294 NTFOSSIL.ZIP Unix: Program Name Version F C Contact Name Node Magic Name ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ifmail 2.12 M G Eugene Crosser 2:293/2219 IFMAIL ifmail-tx ...tx8.6 M G Pablo Saratxaga 2:293/2219 IFMAILTX ifmail-tx.rpm ...tx8.6 M G Pablo Saratxaga 2:293/2219 IFMAILTX.RPM Msged 4.00 O G Paul Edwards 3:711/934 MSGED Tobruk 0.33 T G Paul Edwards 3:711/934 TOBRUK Amiga: Program Name Version F C Contact Name Node Magic Name ---------------------------------------------------------------------- CrashMail 1.31 T X Rene Laederach 2:301/133 CRASHMAIL CrashTick 1.2 O F Rene Laederach 2:301/133 CRASHTICK DLG Pro BBOS 1.15 B C Holly Sullivan 1:202/720 DLGDEMO GMS 1.1.85 M S Mirko Viviani 2:331/213 GMS Msged 4.00 O G Paul Edwards 3:711/934 MSGED Tobruk 0.33 T G Paul Edwards 3:711/934 TOBRUK TrapDoor 1.86.b2 M S Maximilian Hantsch 2:310/6 TRAPDOOR TrapToss 1.50 T S Rene Hexel 2:310/6 TRAPTOSS Atari: Program Name Version F C Contact Name Node Magic Name ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ApplyList 1.00 N F Daniel Roesen 2:2432/1101 APLST100.LZH BinkleyTerm/ST 3.18pl2 M F Bill Scull 1:363/112 BINKLEY BTNC 2.00 N G Daniel Roesen 2:2432/1101 BTNC JetMail 0.99beta T S Joerg Spilker 2:2432/1101 JETMAIL Semper 0.80beta M S Jan Kriesten 2:2490/1624 SMP-BETA Function: B-BBS, P-Point, M-Mailer, N-Nodelist, G-Gateway, T-Tosser, C-Compression, F-Fossil, O-Other. Note: Multifunction will be listed by the first match. Cost: P-Free for personal use, F-Freeware, S-Shareware, C-Commercial, FIDONEWS 16-11 Page 16 15 Mar 1999 X-Crippleware, D-Demoware, G-Free w/ Source Please send updates and suggestions to: Peter Popovich, 1:228/158 ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 16-11 Page 17 15 Mar 1999 ================================================================= FIDONET BY INTERNET ================================================================= This is a list of all FidoNet-related sites reported to the FidoNews Editor as of this issue; see the notice at the end. FidoNet: Homepage http://www.fidonet.org FidoNews http://www.fidonews.org [HTML] http://209.77.228.66/fidonews.html [ASCII] WWW sources http://travel.to/fidonet/ FTSC page http://www.ftsc.org/ Echomail [pending] General http://owls.com/~jerrys/fidonet.html http://www.nrgsys.com/orb/foti List servers: http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/fidonet-discussion ============ Zone 1: http://www.z1.fidonet.org Region 10: http://www.psnw.com/~net205/region10.html Region 11: http://oeonline.com/~garyg/region11/ Region 13: Net 264: http://www.net264.org/r13.htm Region 14: Net 282: http://www.rxn.com/~net282/ Region 17: http://www.nwstar.com/~region17/ Region 18: http://techshop.pdn.net/fido/ Region 19: http://members.home.net/hbh3/r19 Zone 1 Elist http://www.baltimoremd.com/elist/ Not sure where the following should be placed: http://www.angelfire.com/biz/snwvlly/fido.html ============ Zone 2: http://www.z2.fidonet.org ZEC2: Zone 2 Elist: http://www.fbone.ch/echolist/ Region 20: http://www.fidonet.pp.se (in Swedish) FIDONEWS 16-11 Page 18 15 Mar 1999 Region 23: http://www.fido.dk (in Danish) Region 24: http://www.swb.de/personal/flop/gatebau.html (German) Fido-IP: http://home.nrh.de/~lbehet/fido (English/German) Region 25: http://www.bsnet.co.uk/net2502/net/ Region 26: http://www.nemesis.ie REC 26: http://www.nrgsys.com/orb Region 27: http://telematique.org/ft/r27.htm Region 29: http://www.rtfm.be/fidonet/ (French) Region 30: http://www.fidonet.ch (German) Region 33: http://www.fidoitalia.net (Italian) Region 34: http://www.pobox.com/cnb/r34.htm (Spanish) REC34: http://pobox.com/~chr Region 36: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/7207/ Region 38: http://public.st.carnet.hr/~blagi/bbs/adriam.html Region 41: http://www.fidonet.gr (Greek/English) Region 42: http://www.fido.cz Region 48: http://www.fidonet.org.pl Region 50: http://www.fido7.com/ (Russian) Net 5010: http://fido.tu-chel.ac.ru/ (Russian) Net 5015: http://www.fido.nnov.ru/ (Russian) Net 5030: http://kenga.ru/fido/ (Russian & English) Net 5073: http://people.weekend.ru/soa/ (Russian) ============ Zone 3: http://www.z3.fidonet.org ============ Zone 4: Region 90: http://visitweb.com/fidonet Net 903: http://www.playagrande.com/refugio Net 904: http://members.tripod.com/~net904 (Spanish) ============ Zone 5: http://www.eastcape.co.za/fidonet/index.htm ============ Zone 6: http://www.z6.fidonet.org FIDONEWS 16-11 Page 19 15 Mar 1999 Region 65: http://www.cfido.com/fidonet/cfidochina.html (Chinese) ============ Pages listed above are as submitted to the FidoNews Editor, and generally reflect Zone and Regional Web Page sites. If no Regional site is submitted, the first Network page from that Region is used in its place. Generally, Regional pages should list access points to all Networks within the Region. TCP/IP accessible node access information should be submitted to the FidoNews Editor for inclusion in their Region or Zone. -----------oOo------------- Fidonet Via Internet Hubs Node# | Operator | Facilities (*) | Speed | Basic Rate -----------+-------------------+----------------+-------+------------ 1:12/12 | Ken Wilson | FTP | T1 | $24mo. 1:13/25 | Jim Balcom | FTP | 56k | $20mo. 1:106/1 | Matt Bedynek | FTP,VMoT,UUE | 64k | $5/$15mo. 1:106/6018 | Lawrence Garvin | FTP,VMoT | 64k | $5/mo. 1:107/451 | Andy Knifel | FTP, VMoT, UUE | 33.6 | n/c 1:140/12 | Bob Seaborn | FTP | T1 | $5/$20 1:270/101 | George Peace | FTP | T1 | $30mo. 1:271/140 | Tom Barstow | UUE | T1 | n/c 1:275/1 | Joshua Ecklund | UUE | 28.8 | $10/yr. 1:280/169 | Brian Greenstreet | FTP | 33.6 | $2mo. 1:2401/305 | Peter Rocca | FTP,UUE | T1 | unkn 1:2424/10 | Alec Grynspan | FTP,UUE | T1 | n/c 1:2604/104 | Jim Mclaughlin | FTP,VMoT,UUE | 33.6 | $1mo. 1:2624/306 | D. Calafrancesco | VMoT | 33.6 | $15yr. 1:345/0 | Todd Cochrane | FTP | T1 | n/c 1:346/250 | Aran Spence | FTP,UUE | T1 | $10mo. 1:396/45 | Marc Lewis | UUE | 33.6 | $26/yr. 1:3651/9 | Jerry Gause | FTP,VMoT | 33.6 | $3/$6 1:396/1 | John Souvestre | FTP,VMoT | T1 | $15mo. 2:335/535 | Mario Mure | VMoT,UUE | 64k | n/c 2:254/175 | Alex Kemp | UUE | 56k | n/c 2:284/800 | Jeroen VanDeLeur | FTP,UUE | 64k | n/c 2:335/610 | Gino Lucrezi | UUE | 33.6 | n/c 2:469/84 | Max Masyutin | VMoT | 256k | n/c 2:2411/413 | Dennis Dittrich | UUE | 64k | n/c 2:2474/275 | Christian Emig | UUE | 64k | unkn 3:633/260 | Malcolm Miles | FTP | 33.6 | n/c 4:905/100 | Fabian Gervan | VMoT, UUE | ??? | n/c 5:7104/2 | Henk Wolsink | FTP | 28.8 | n/c -- * FTP = Internet File Transfer Protocol * VMoT = Virtual Mailer over Telnet (various) * UUE = uuencode<->email type transfers [I'm only cataloging transfer methods, eg, ftp, email, telnet. Specific programs using these protocols are no longer being listed. Contact the system operators for details of which programs they have available.] FIDONEWS 16-11 Page 20 15 Mar 1999 Compiled by C. Ingersoll, 1:2623/71, (609)814-1978, fbn@dandy.net Posted on the 1st of every month in FN_SYSOP, R13SYSOP and Fidonews. ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 16-11 Page 21 15 Mar 1999 ================================================================= FIDONEWS INFORMATION ================================================================= ------- FIDONEWS MASTHEAD AND CONTACT INFORMATION ------- Editor: Henk Wolsink Editors Emeriti: Tom Jennings, Thom Henderson, Dale Lovell, Vince Perriello, Tim Pozar, Sylvia Maxwell, Donald Tees, Christopher Baker, Zorch Frezberg "FidoNews Editor" FidoNet 5:5/23 BBS +27-41-581-5913, 2400/9600/V34 more addresses: Henk Wolsink -- 5:7104/2, hwolsink@catpe.alt.za (Postal Service mailing address) FidoNews Editor P.O. 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