F I D O N E W S -- Volume 15, Number 36 7 September 1998 +----------------------------+-----------------------------------------+ | The newsletter of the | ISSN 1198-4589 Published by: | | FidoNet community | "FidoNews" | | _ | +27-41-515-913 [5:5/23] | | / \ | | | /|oo \ | | | (_| /_) | | | _`@/_ \ _ | | | | | \ \\ | Editor: | | | (*) | \ )) | Henk Wolsink 5:7104/2 | | |__U__| / \// | | | _//|| _\ / | | | (_/(_|(____/ | | | (jm) | Newspapers should have no friends. | | | -- JOSEPH PULITZER | +----------------------------+-----------------------------------------+ | Submission address: FidoNews Editor 5:5/23 | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | MORE addresses: | | | | submissions=> editor@fidonews.org | | | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | For information, copyrights, article submissions, | | obtaining copies of FidoNews or the internet gateway FAQ | | please refer to the end of this file. | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ Table of Contents 1. EDITORIAL ................................................ 1 2. GUEST EDITORIAL .......................................... 2 Why Fido is at risk? - by Adriano Garcia ................. 2 The Shrinking Nodelist - an optimist's view .............. 3 3. ARTICLES ................................................. 5 North American Backbone Echo Changes ..................... 5 4. COLUMNS .................................................. 6 Last chance for your Scientology refunds? ................ 8 5. NET HUMOR ................................................ 10 Dark Side of the Farce - Fido stars at war ............... 10 6. NOTICES .................................................. 12 7. FIDONET BY INTERNET ...................................... 14 8. FIDONEWS INFORMATION ..................................... 17 FIDONEWS 15-36 Page 1 7 Sep 1998 ================================================================= EDITORIAL ================================================================= Greetings, Last weeks editorial about the ECHOLIST, did bring in a few netmails and e-mails, for which I thank you. All made some form or another comment, in that those echo's which do not form part of FidoNet, are gated between the 'othernet' and FidoNet, hence being listed. Should the listing then also not display the gateway address, so that those who would like to obtain it, can make contact? Lekker lees. (Happy reading). ----------------------------------------------------------------- Sep 1998 ================================================================= GUEST EDITORIAL ================================================================= Why Fido is at risk? by Adriano Garcia (former 4:801/53) adriano@visaonet.com When the Internet started to be as widespread as it is today, many people asked: "What is the future of FidoNet?". This question has no simple answer, but many factors may prove that Fido was doomed before the expansion of the commercial Internet. Let's start with a small personal biography: I was a sysop in Sao Paulo, Brazil back in 1993, when Fido was growing exponentially there and many things that I will expose here are commonplace for many of our readers. First, and foremost, the main factor that scares people away from helping the grow of Fidonet are the power trips. And they are present in different flavors to please everyone. One example: for a long time, before I joined Fido, local sysops were barred from entering Fido just because it was a `qualified network' that should be run only by the 'best sysops'. Not for everyone. And the criteria used to determine who were the `best' were subjective, being the level of friendship with any *C a decisive factor. It's also a reality that Policy4 isn't what we could call a "democratic rule", but the same law can be interpreted differently by two different persons. That's why we have courts. But, when the person that enforces it is the same one that decides what is right, then we have a problem. Or a dictatorship, if you prefer. The last moment of growth of Fidonet Brazil was stopped by the first "ideological cleansing" of the history of cyberspace in South America. Many nodes were excommunicated just because they thought differently from the newly appointed RC of 1994. The curious about it is that the ones excommunicated had the same ideas of democracy and development of Fido that the RC had before being nominated... Now things seems to be getting back to normality, with another RC in place. But who will tell this to the many who closed down their systems just because it became one more problem instead of a pleasure? And what about the sysops who wish to return as mail-only nodes or point systems and cannot because nodes are charging big money for mail or because *Cs do not assign mail-only nodes anymore, even when there isn't a local BBS in the area? Now we have the Internet. And people say that Fidonet is a "competing network", with the Internet. An it's not. Fido is supposed to be an amateur network where people communicate and participate as a hobby, when the Internet is now a commercially oriented network that has a completely different technology and environment. And there are limitations in Usenet (the "Internet echomail") that are not present in Fido. FIDONEWS 15-36 Page 3 7 Sep 1998 They can really coexist. But only if the *C structure realises that they aren't the "owners" of the network but only the ones that *coordinate* the efforts of many into the development of a NEW Fidonet. It's obvious that the technology is already in place, with packets flowing through the Internet reducing the once expensive international mail exchanges. This should be, by itself, one good reason for Fido to expand, not to collapse. We can get Fido into the 21st century. But only if we stop pretending that we are dead and act. Putting people into the net, not keeping them out. (This may be my first and last submission to Fidonews, as the only one telnettable BBS that I know that provides free access to Fido is closing down and I have no other way to access the network anymore. Sad news...) ----------------------------------------------------------------- An Optimistic View of the Shrinking Nodelist Douglas Myers 1:270/720 doug@mdtnbbs.com One of the most persistant topics of echotalk is the shrinking Fido nodelist. That nodes are leaving Fidonet has been no big secret, but it's been most dramatic recently as the text copy of the international nodelist has gone below 2 megabytes where it was three just a few years ago. There's real concern here. Some sysops want to revive BBSING by posting ads in the local laundromats. Some want to put up an HTML-based BBS and go "head-to-head" against the Internet! Power-politicians are chastised for creating this net flight. Developers are being asked why our technology isn't better. And at least one net is supplying local computer-buyers with instructions to turn Hyper-Terminal into the Fidonet Explorer. Will all this concern turn the situation around? Will the BBS once again flourish and the Fido nodelist expand to consume our hard drives? My optimistic guess is "No." Fidonet was never destined to own cyberspace. It briefly (in an historical sense, anyway) caught the imagination of the world, and it even spurred that imagination on to greater things. But it's role in history is more that of amateur radio. Amateur radio operators were once king, and their association also spurred the imagination of the world. But their role, too, was as harbinger. To see how the bbs system operator of the future fares, we can look at the amateur radio operator of today... they're still a strong, active group - still widely respected. But they no longer own the airwaves, having passed it on to their heirs. The BBS sysop never owned cyberspace, but he took his turn at the helm when few could see where these machines called computers could take us. He still stands tall in cyberspace. FIDONEWS 15-36 Page 4 7 Sep 1998 And Fidonet, the community of sysops, will be around for a while. Folks always come home to stay for a piece, and there are always those who keep a place prepared. Even now, those who have mastered the technology of the internet are polishing Fido. Our messages move faster and more reliably through new channels. Some are adding new wings to the traditional structure. And we're all gathered around the fire in the evening quibbling over the seating arrangements for tomorrow's dinner. We're busy getting ready for the folks coming home. -------------- Footnote -------------- I'm hoping that this is the first of a few more editorials of an upbeat nature. I'd like to explore the theme of preparing the ol' place for our guests... and maybe promote some methods for making our community a friendly place to stay in the vastness of cyberspace. Whether I can follow through depends, of course, on my malicious employer who places crass commercial interests above community development. And, of course, it depends on Henk Wolsink, who might fill the pages of Fidonews with the works of real writers and crowd me out before I can say my piece :) --- -- | Fidonet: Douglas Myers 1:270/720@fidonet.org | Internet: doug@mdtnbbs.com | Standard disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly his own. | From Mdtn_BBS @mdtnbbs.com [ In the Heart of Three Mile Island ] ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 15-36 Page 5 7 Sep 1998 ================================================================= ARTICLES ================================================================= North American Backbone Echo Changes [Jul-Aug] by Lisa Gronke, 1:105/9 lisa@psg.com Summary of backbone & quasi-backbone echo changes during Jul & Aug. Brought to you courtesy of (unix) diff. diff (backbone.na + backbone.no) 05-Jul-98 06-Sep-98 [edited]. Added to the backbone --------------------- > ELEBBS_SUPPORT The Official EleBBS Support Conference > GEOWORKS Geoworks software conference. > SUPER-BITCH Super Bitch Discussion Area > WEBUTIL International WEBUTIL Echo > WWIV WWIV BBS Software Removed from the backbone or quasi-backbone ------------------------------------------- < BASIC7 (low traffic since 2/1/98) < BASSGTR (low traffic since 2/1/98) < CYBER_AUCTION Cyber Auction echo < DAIRY_FARM Dairy Farming Conference < DEBATE_ON_ABORTION (low traffic since 6/1/98) < DTP Desktop Publishing discussion < ET_SIGHTINGS ET_SIGHTINGS Discussion Conference < FTN_INTERNET (low traffic since 2/1/98) < GAMES4SALE (low traffic since 6/1/98) < GENDATA (low traffic since 2/1/98) < IRC_CHAT IRC_CHAT Discussion Conference < LORD2_IGM (low traffic since 4/1/98) < LORD2_SYSOP (low traffic since 4/1/98) < MED_MOANS (low traffic since 2/1/98) < NANFE North America Native Fish Echo. < SLEEP_APNEA (low traffic since 6/1/98) < STARTREK_CCG (low traffic since 2/1/98) < STTOS (low traffic since 6/1/98) < SYNCHRONET (low traffic since 2/1/98) < TRI_SYSOP (low traffic since 2/1/98) < VIRUS_NFO (low traffic since 2/1/98) < WC4DOS WildCat! 4 Systems Discussion and Support. ----------------------------------------------------------------- o There are 609 echos in backbone.na [06-Sep-98] (down 24) o There are 107 echos in backbone.no [06-Sep-98] (up 7) o for a total of 716 backbone & quasi-backbone echos (down 17) ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 15-36 Page 6 7 Sep 1998 ================================================================= COLUMNS ================================================================= Dear Editorbeing, I trust that this article will find itself buried beneath the fold after the Artspec document in your esteemed organ. With any kind of luck, the momentum gained by all six readers of the Snooz as they lean on their buttons will carry them right past this drivel to the exciting Internet gating information. This article is submitted by Doc Logger (163/110) who was eagerly awaiting the 29,000 pounds of bananas which Ruth Argust had shipped to his address. Roll da flic, Henk.... Dear Reverend Visage, Nice work ace. Submitting your petty cash bills to Swamp Swine Magazine and asking for payment in Russian Rubles will surely prop up their sagging currency and avert a global meltdown of various economies. I guess you noticed that the Canadian peso is now worth slightly less than the virtue of an Australian woman. What amazes me in the various commentaries that I have read is that there is a lack of perception about what causes such huge currency fluctuations. What they fail to note is that currency trading is conducted by cocaine-crazed twenty year olds who wouldn't recognize a Gross National Product if it sat on their faces. The little snakes who do the buying and selling of foreign currencies are merely gamblers. The fact that they gamble with your jobs, your national economies, and inflate the costs of blended Scotch to ruinously high levels, is but a mere trifle. What really matters is that the money trading weasels will be paid six figure salaries without having put in a productive day's work in their lives. Only lawyers have a greater claim to being economic bloodsuckers. Mercifully, having invested all of my spare funds in badger sperm futures, I am immune to currency fluctuations. For those of global ambition, this seems like a golden opportunity because there must be countries who can be purchased for a mere $1.95 in hard currency. In last week's Snooz His Immensity, Jerry Schwartz, pointed out that Eldridge Cleaver had become a "diversity consultant" in his dotage. It could have been worse, Cleaver could have become either a sociologist or a statistician. I think most of the fervent revolutionaries of the 60s and 70's have come to the realization that starving has its drawbacks. If George Washington were alive today, he'd be flogging fat free cookware on infomercials. FIDONEWS 15-36 Page 7 7 Sep 1998 Finding the pithy quote I wanted for this week's Chautauqua will be problematic because I decided to undo the work of my Evil Cleaning lady. My Evil Cleaning lady had arranged all of my books by colour and so I have attempted to put them back in alphabetical order. In the process, I have discovered an immutable law of bookshelves which states: If you unload several bookshelves and then attempt to put the books back, the shelves will become full long before the pile of books has been restored. Somewhere in the pile of books the one I want remains hidden. With the daunting prospect of finding a real quote, I shall dive into my journals and select something random and appropriate. "Your lamp isn't dead...it's just sick." Joe's Lamp Reconstruction, Miami, January 17, 1975. When I recorded that philosophical gem from a billboard, I had a sense that it served as a metaphor for not just ailing lamps, but also for America. When I recorded it, I was on my way to the sybaritic pleasures of a Caribbean Cruise (pass the prune juice, let's party) and was young enough to be optimistically naive about the future. To turn this into a proper Chautauqua, the metaphor should be expanded to encompass the notion that social systems aren't supposed to be terminal conditions, but rather systems capable of being "fixed." I see that same notion of futile optimism expressed by those who think that some gee-whiz technology applied to Fidonet will miraculously stave off its decline. In truth, adding IP connectability will just make for a better looking corpse, but won't breath any new vitality into the medium. Here at Cassandra's 'R Us, I believe that the only thing that matters is the content of messages. There is more than a little irony to be found in the fact that while my opinions are about as welcome as a skunk at a wedding, the style of my messages seems to make some people assert that they remain connected to some echos merely for the opportunity of reading my drivel. What most of these people don't realize is that most of the entertaining writers in Fidonet are long gone...discouraged by the cascades of quoted drooling and the generally cretinous approach to communication. I must go Visage. This has already gone on too long and I know that you'll be pleased that Andrea Santos has returned from her tryst with vegetables. As Fidonet's official Mistress of Antfarms she has been sorely missed. (Special note to Lee Aryton's finch: Cute buns, babe.) I had hoped to meet with you last week but your secretary informed me that you'd missed your flight for the fourteenth straight week. Regards, Doc Logger Furlang Island, South Pacific FIDONEWS 15-36 Page 8 7 Sep 1998 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Ex-contributors and ex-staff members may only have until December 31, 1998 FACTNet alert August 26, 1998 Ex-Scientologists who may be eligible for refunds and/or back-pay from Scientology may never have a better opportunity or more leverage to retrieve their money than between now and December 31. In December, 1998, Scientology s tax-exempt status will be reviewed by the US Internal Revenue Service (IRS) for the final time, and then if the IRS is convinced Scientology has abided by its 1993 IRS agreement Scientology s nonprofit status will become permanent. Thus for the next few months, it is crucial for Scientology to see that its operations appear to be above legal reproach. According to Scientology s application for tax-exempt status, it must refund donations it has received if donors so request. If you feel you were deceived by Scientology or did not receive what you were promised, demand your donations back! And legally, Scientology could be liable to provide back-pay for the many who have labored long hours for the church far below minimum wage, often only receiving $10 or $24 per week. Receiving $24 for a 40-hour workweek equals sixty cents an hour; for a not-unheard-of 100-hour week, twenty-four cents an hour. An individual would be owed almost $10,000 for each year worked at $24 per week rather than a minimum wage of $5.15 an hour, assuming only a 40-hour workweek; at an 80-hour week it would be over $20,000. It is illegal to pay workers less than minimum wage. Don't let Scientology get away with profiting from your slave labor! Demand the back pay you are owed. 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Appropriate re-distribution and re-posting of this document is appreciated. ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 15-36 Page 10 7 Sep 1998 ======================= NET HUMOR ================================================================= The Dark Side of the Farce Douglas Myers 1:270/720 It's late at night, at the end of a weekend in which I tried to catch up on all the mail I didn't quite get around to reading during the work week. The echos are still running through my mind and combining in unlikely ways. The ZEC echo is in an interregnum right now, Bob Kohl having been fired and Gary Gilmore, the interim ZEC, in somewhat of a pickle. Gary is charged by his job description with conducting an election for a new ZEC, but Bob Satti has apparantly charged the RECC with the task of determining how the new ZEC should be selected. Meanwhile, Bob Kohl has not been silent. He is currently in a shouting war with John Souvestre charging him with lack of moderator support in the past. John maintains that he just wanted a little bit of decorum - that maybe it was a good idea to talk with the local sysop or his uplink or the next uplink or the next uplink before asking for a feed cut for an entire net. And in the ever-popular SUPER-BITCH echo, the bitches are trying to assign the appropriate Fidonet Stars to the roles of the Seven Dwarfs. As my eyes close I recall Bob Satti being nominated for Sleepy... ... and suddenly I realize the appropriate role for Bob Kohl. What famous character was originally a force for Good (as many of his former supporters maintain) and a rising star in the Fido Empire before he finally succumed to the Dark Side? Why it was Darth Vadar! Eyes still closed and slumber falling upon me, it doesn't occur to me that Darth never made the cast of Snow White. And what famous Princess, a member of the Imperial Senate, was chased across the galaxy by Darth and forced to retreat with her Rebel Alliance to a new region even as the mighty forces of Darth's Empire were destroying her home? This would be Princess Ruth Argust, of course. One sysop, irate over zone 2 nodelist errors, has already ranted about "Satti the Hut." Durn, that man takes a beating... But to my weary mind, another role is more suitable. Which young man wishes to leave the farm and reach for the stars? Though inexperienced and making a few mistakes along the way, he is nonetheless privy to some routed netmail to Obie Wan Kanobie and rushes to rescue the Princess. As young Luke Satti embarks on his adventure, he finds that within himself are the seeds of the last Jedi Knight. Though he must ultimately confront the Dark Side, he FIDONEWS 15-36 Page 11 7 Sep 1998 eventually rises to dispose of Darth Vadar. Drifting to sleep, I wonder who is Yoda, who will take Luke by the hand and teach him to use The Force. As sleep overtakes, I recall that Yoda wasn't one of the Seven Dwarfs either... --- -- | Fidonet: Douglas Myers 1:270/720@fidonet.org | Internet: doug@mdtnbbs.com | Standard disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly his own. | From Mdtn_BBS @mdtnbbs.com [ In the Heart of Three Mile Island ] ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 15-36 Page 12 7 Sep 1998 ================================================================= NOTICES ================================================================= Future History 5 Oct 1998 29th Anniversary of "Monty Python's Flying Circus". 10 Sep 1998 9th Anniversary of Zone 5 operations. 14 Sep 1998 Start of International BBS Week [thru 20 Sep 98]. 22 Sep 1998 First anniversary of the FidoNews domain of www.fidonews.org. 23 Nov 1998 35th Anniversary of Doctor Who. 1 Dec 1998 Fifteenth Anniversary of release of Fido version 1 by Tom Jennings. 16 Feb 1999 13th Anniversary of the introduction of EchoMail by Jeff Rush. 12 May 1999 12th Anniversary of Fido Operations in Zone 4; 10th Anniversary of the creation of FidoNet Zone 4. 24 Jul 1999 XIII Pan American Games [through 8 Aug 99]. 9 Jun 1999 Tenth Anniversary of the adoption of FidoNet Policy 4.07. 10 Sep 1999 10th anniversary of Zone 5 operations. 26 Oct 1999 Thirty years from release Abbey Road album by the Beatles. 31 Dec 1999 Hogmanay, Scotland. The New Year that can't be missed. 1 Jan 2000 The 20th Century, C.E., is still taking place thru 31 Dec. 1 Jun 2000 EXPO 2000 World Exposition in Hannover (Germany) opens. 15 Sep 2000 Sydney (Australia) Summer Olympiad opens. FIDONEWS 15-36 Page 13 7 Sep 1998 1 Jan 2001 This is the actual start of the new millennium, C.E. -- If YOU have something which you would like to see in this Future History, please send a note to the FidoNews Editor. ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 15-36 Page 14 7 Sep 1998 ================================================================= FIDONET BY INTERNET ================================================================= This is a list of all FidoNet-related sites reported to the FidoNews Editor as of this issue; see the notice at the end. FidoNet: Homepage http://www.fidonet.org FidoNews http://www.fidonews.org [HTML] http://209.77.228.66/fidonews.html [ASCII] WWW sources http://www.scms.rgu.ac.uk/students/cs_yr94/lk/fido.html FTSC page http://www.goldware.dk/ftsc Echomail [pending] WebRing http://ddi.digital.net/~cbaker84/fnetring.html [TFN] General http://owls.com/~jerrys/fidonet.html http://www.trak-one.co.uk/foti ============ Zone 1: http://www.z1.fidonet.org Region 10: http://www.psnw.com/~net205/region10.html Region 11: http://oeonline.com/~garyg/region11/ Region 18: http://techshop.pdn.net/fido/ Region 19: http://www.compconn.net ============ Zone 2: http://www.z2.fidonet.org ZEC2: Zone 2 Elist: http://www.fbone.ch/echolist/ Region 20: http://www.fidonet.pp.se (in Swedish) Region 23: http://www.fido.dk (in Danish) Region 24: http://www.swb.de/personal/flop/gatebau.html (German) Fido-IP: http://home.nrh.de/~lbehet/fido (English/German) Region 25: http://www.bsnet.co.uk/net2502/net/ Region 26: http://www.nemesis.ie REC 26: http://www.nrgsys.com/orb Region 27: http://telematique.org/ft/r27.htm Region 29: http://www.rtfm.be/fidonet/ (French) Region 30: http://www.fidonet.ch (Swiss?) FIDONEWS 15-36 Page 15 7 Sep 1998 Region 33: http://www.fidoitalia.net (Italian) Region 34: http://www.pobox.com/cnb/r34.htm (Spanish) REC34: http://pobox.com/~chr Region 36: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/7207/ Region 38: http://public.st.carnet.hr/~blagi/bbs/adriam.html Region 41: http://www.fidonet.gr (Greek/English) Region 48: http://www.fidonet.org.pl Region 50: http://www.fido7.com/ (Russian) Net 5010: http://fido.tu-chel.ac.ru/ (Russian) Net 5015: http://www.fido.nnov.ru/ (Russian) Net 5030: http://kenga.ru/fido/ (Russian & English) Net 5073: http://people.weekend.ru/soa/ (Russian) ============ Zone 3: http://www.z3.fidonet.org ============ Zone 4: http://www.altern.org/zone4 Region 90: http://visitweb.com/fidonet Net 903: http://www.playagrande.com/refugio Net 904: http://members.tripod.com/~net904 (Spanish) ============ Zone 5: http://www.eastcape.co.za/fidonet/index.htm ============ Zone 6: http://www.z6.fidonet.org Region 65: http://www.cfido.com/fidonet/cfidochina.html (Chinese) ============ Pages listed above are as submitted to the FidoNews Editor, and generally reflect Zone and Regional Web Page sites. If no Regional site is submitted, the first Network page from that Region is used in its place. Generally, Regional pages should list access points to all Networks within the Region. TCP/IP accessible node access information should be submitted to the FidoNews Editor for inclusion in their Region or Zone. -----------oOo------------- Fidonet Via Internet Hubs FIDONEWS 15-36 Page 16 7 Sep 1998 Node# | Operator | Facilities (*) | Speed | Basic Rate -----------+-------------------+----------------+-------+----------- 1:12/12 | Ken Wilson | FTP | T1 | $24mo. 1:13/25 | Jim Balcom | FTP | 56k | $20mo. 1:124/7008 | Ben Hamilton |FTP,VMoT,F2I,UUE| 64k | $10/$20mo. 1:140/12 | Bob Seaborn | FTP | T1 | $5/$20 1:270/101 | George Peace | FTP | T1 | $30mo. 1:271/140 | Tom Barstow | F2I | ??? | $2mo. 1:275/1 | Joshua Ecklund | UUE,F2I | 28.8 | $10/yr. 1:280/169 | Brian Greenstreet | FTP | 33.6 | $2mo. 1:2401/305 | Peter Rocca | FTP,UUE | T1 | unkn 1:2424/10 | Alec Grynspan | FTP,VMoT | T1 | $1mo. 1:2424/3121| Earl Clark | UUE | 33.6 | n/c 1:2604/104 | Jim Mclaughlin | FTP,VMoT,UUE | 33.6 | $1mo. 1:2624/306 | D. Calafrancesco | VFOS | 33.6 | $15yr. 1:345/0 | Todd Cochrane | FTP | T1 | n/c 1:346/250 | Aran Spence | FTP,UUE | T1 | $10mo. 1:342/1022 | Steve Steffler | UUE,F2I | 33.6 | n/c 1:3651/9 | Jerry Gause | FTP,VMoT | 33.6 | $3/$6 1:396/1 | John Souvestre | FTP,VMoT | T1 | $15mo. 2:2411/413 | Dennis Dittrich | UUE | 64k | n/c 2:33/505 | Mario Mure | VMoT,UUE | 64k | n/c 2:335/610 | Gino Lucrezi | UUE | 33.6 | n/c 2:469/84 | Max Masyutin | VMoT | 256k | n/c 2:2474/275 | Christian Emig | UUE | 64k | unkn 2:2490/5170| Lenny Murphy | F2I | ??? | n/c 5:7104/2 | Henk Wolsink | FTP | 28.8 | n/c -- + VMoT = Virtual Mailer over Telnet (various) + F2I = Fido2Int (W95) + UUE = uuencode<->email packet transfers compiled by C. Ingersoll, 1:2623/71, (609)814-1978, fbn@dandy.net Posted on the 1st of every month in FN_SYSOP, R13SYSOP and Fidonews. - ___ ! 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