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created by theconstellinguist on 31/01/2025 at 07:50 UTC*
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1: https://www.psych.theclinics.com/article/S0193-953X(18)30413-1/abstract
2: https://www.psych.theclinics.com/article/S0193-953X(18)30413-1/abstract
3: https://narcissismresearch.miraheze.org/wiki/AIReactiveCodependencyRageDisclaimer
4: https://narcissismresearch.miraheze.org/wiki/AIReactiveCodependencyRageDisclaimer
1. Rather, it represents the defensive con- struction of a pathologic grandiose self consisting of a conglomeration of one-sidedly positive aspects of self and object and superego, with the negative aspects of self projected onto others, thus leading to a hostile, devaluating attitude toward others. This pathologic self structure prob- ably arises under childhood conditions of absence of adequate warmth and approval and excessive idealization
1. What I wish to convey by that title is the idea that masochistic (that is, pain-dependent) and narcissistic fea- tures are always intimately intertwined in these patients, and it is useful theoretically and vital clinically to keep this linkage in the forefront of our thinking.
1. The wife was at first apologetic, pointing out that she had already said she was sorry that morning, but when that had no effect in calming him, she herself became increasingly enraged and distant and told him that if he felt as he said, they could call it all off right there, and she left the room and refused to speak further. At that moment, his rage and pride collapsed, and he found himself fearful, depressed, willing to do anything to appease her. This pattern of oscillating narcissistic enraged entitlement and masochistic passive depression was characteristic of his moods. The episode is trivial in itself, but there are several things I would like to emphasize about it.
1. First**,** this was only one event in an endless series of events in which this man was able to come away with feelings of hurt, depression, humiliation, and helplessness. The sense of injus- tice provided a major color to the pattern of his life. Second, he was not consciously aware that he had been injured until his wife called him to apologize.
1. Rather, he continued his offensive to the point where, finally, his wife reacted with her own anger, and then he felt weak, frightened, defeated and depressed; one might say he was narcissistically mortified and masochistically gratified.
1. Finally, in this scenario, as the helpless child experiences re- peated instances of unavoidable frustration, compounded by the anxi- ety aroused by his anger at beloved and needed parents and by the painful state of inexpressible impounded rage, he is driven to seek a compromise that will permit him to accept and perceive the object, while retaining some portion of his omnipotence and self-esteem. He does this by learning, through fantasy, to “sugar-coat,” or, if you prefer, to “libidinize,” his disappointments. For the sake of the contin- uing illusion of omnipotent control of himself and the differentiating object, the child learns to extract some pleasure from his unpleasurable loss of omnipotent control. In effect, he says to himself, “No one frustrated me against my wishes; I ordered the frustration myself be- cause I like it. If I cannot get what I originally wanted, I will learn to like what I got and will disappoint myself by myself.” In this theory of the anlage of masochism, it is inevitable that every individual develops a capacity for extracting pleasure from displeasure as the price for retaining narcissistic satisfaction, and in instances of severe early nar- cissistic frustration this may become the preferred mode of pleasure.
1. When- ever masochistic tendencies —the savoring of disappointment, the pre- cipitation of injustices, the provocation of defeats — are pointed out, the patient will, to varying degree, experience these insights as sources of narcissistic injury, stemming from the therapist. In other words, interpretation of narcissistic traits will tend to provoke masochistic feelings of malicious injury and passive defeat. Interpretation of maso- chistic traits will lead to narcissistic defenses of denigration and rage
1. In this condition, pathologic narcissistic tendencies are unconscious vehicles for attaining masochistic disappointment; and ma- sochistic injuries are an a8irmation of distorted narcissistic fantasies.
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