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View submission: Quinnspiracy Theory: In-N-Out Edition
I used to think the whole don't criticize Feminists or you will be labeled a misogynist thing was hyperbolic nonsense but it seems to be pretty right on in the gaming industry. Right now if you Google Zoe Quinn the first result is a horribly written article literally called "Gaming Misogyny Gets Infinite Lives", which misses all the facts and paints the situation like people are rallying behind an angry ex boyfriend to take revenge on his former lover. Totalbiscuit wrote the only reasonable post about the situation and of course he gets attacked for it.
The worst part is how destructive this is to fighting actual misogyny in the industry, because at this point whenever someone try to bring up legitimate issues everyone is so polarized that no one is willing to listen or consider a different perspective.
Comment by KnittyPitity at 23/08/2014 at 12:30 UTC
72 upvotes, 7 direct replies
Their anger isn't limited to just men who differ in opinion. As a woman I have often spoken out against the new wave feminism. I have repeatedly said I do not identify as a feminist and believe everyone is equal. I am usually told I don't know what I'm talking about, although I have done a lot of research and try to understand what I can, that I am a feminist simply because I believe that everyone should be treated equally and evaluated on their own strengths. I've been called "The worst type of woman" and a rape apologist. My favourite was when I was accused of speaking for all women, when I did not do so, and in the very next sentence the person spoke on my behalf. The hypocrisy is almost hilarious. Almost. I love video games, and things like this make me disappointed in the community.
Comment by [deleted] at 23/08/2014 at 13:42 UTC*
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What I don't understand is how certain women find some fault in video game women, "oh they have overly large breasts, they wear no armor and it's sexualized. Sorry to ruin your pity party, but I look like a wet noodle with my shirt off and I look nothing like my character in Diablo, CoD, Borderlands, etc. If you ever figure out how to make yourself feel better when comparing yourself to someone completely unreal, please let me know.
Instead of worrying about it, I just don't give a crap and I move on to more important things in life, but I guess this is above many people that game?
Comment by Kyoraki at 23/08/2014 at 13:27 UTC
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If you don't like the first link, try the second.
Shameless self promotion here, but I've been keeping up with reporting on the story in the most fair and unbiased manner possible, in spite of doxxing attempts and threats against myself and my colleagues. If you want the reasonable discussion to retake control of the debate, give it a click instead of that hack piece and show the industry that something has to change.
Comment by LikeAFlashSplash at 23/08/2014 at 11:21 UTC
8 upvotes, 1 direct replies
People like Zoe Quinn, Anita Sarkeesian, Rebecca Watson, and Adria Richards along with sites like Jezebel.com, Feministing.com, EveryDayFeminism.com, and SkepChick.org have morphed 3rd wave feminism into an insane cult.
Comment by RatsAndMoreRats at 23/08/2014 at 08:53 UTC
5 upvotes, 1 direct replies
I'm seriously considering getting a tattoo that says "Misogynist." I mean maybe it's the whiskey talking but right now it seems like a great idea.
Comment by MumrikDK at 24/08/2014 at 01:46 UTC
1 upvotes, 0 direct replies
I finally looked up what the fancy word for a man-hater is. It is mysandrist, and even the link points out how rare its use is. I guess it's never been a popular thing to scream at people.
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/words/what-is-the-female-equivalent-of-a-misogynist
Comment by BigDaddy_Delta at 23/08/2014 at 15:16 UTC
1 upvotes, 1 direct replies
SJW are a cancer
Comment by MercuryCobra at 23/08/2014 at 14:21 UTC*
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I mean, isn't that exactly what the gaming community is doing though? Taking the word of a jilted ex-lover as gospel, and then using it to persecute a person the community was predisposed to not liking? Because in the end all of the accusations about unethical conduct were proven completely false; Zoe only allegedly slept with one reporter, and only after he'd written about her game already. So the vitriol coming out isn't fact based, it's purely emotive. And to me, it indicates a deeply misogynistic tilt in the community.
Edit: And to the extent that Zoe Quinn is just a bad person: so? Bad, hypocritical people exist. The gaming press isn't obligated to cover them, much less how one's personal life might put the lie to their professional life. If they did we'd have 30,000 articles a day about how Hideo Kojima says he likes to share but always takes the last slice of pizza.
Moreover, Zoe Quinn being a shit person says absolutely nothing about feminists or other social justice types. Again, shit people exist. That has nothing to do with the causes they support.