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The last time I gave a student a zero for cheating he came in with his lawyer. They don't come to learn.
Comment by tonufan at 01/12/2024 at 05:28 UTC
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Something similar happened at the private university I went to. I heard this girl was failing her classes and she was having her parents sue the university to get her passed. There was also a time where a bunch of Saudi foreign exchange students in my class got caught cheating on an essay assignment and it was such a shit show the department head just made them redo the assignment instead of failing across the board.
Comment by SquatDeadliftBench at 01/12/2024 at 05:10 UTC
29 upvotes, 1 direct replies
Lol. What???
Comment by ss0889 at 01/12/2024 at 12:45 UTC
12 upvotes, 1 direct replies
They come to get a 250k piece of fuckin paper that does absolutely nothing and they don't learn anything of any value cuz the job market doesn't give a fuck. They are there cuz it's a requirement to survive in this place. They use the tools they have. Grade them harder, if they're using AI ND not bothering with cohesive sentences just grade really hard. If they are doing the work and making it ¥overly professional " but still have a clear understanding of the topic, why does it matter? Why is ai not allowed in the first place when you know for a fact they'll be able to do anything they want if they keep asking it the right questions? Would you ban computers because you want handwriting or type writer? (not YOU obv but in general)
Comment by elijahb229 at 01/12/2024 at 04:08 UTC
40 upvotes, 1 direct replies
😂 ay what lmao bro was about to sue u for HIS bad actions!?
Comment by braiam at 01/12/2024 at 14:25 UTC
4 upvotes, 0 direct replies
They don't come to learn
Are you acting surprised? Higher education has been sold as the only path towards a job and financial stability. If you are going to prevent them from doing that, even when they pay for it, and the universities heavily market themselves as that... why would you expect something different?
Comment by CubanLynx312 at 01/12/2024 at 12:53 UTC
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Same! I had a student with a truly awful paper which was very memorable. 2 years later, I received the exact same paper from another student. When I have the student a zero, I was investigated and had to sit in front of the academic misconduct committee to explain myself. The student brought a lawyer and my decision to fail the student was overturned.
This happened at a major university you’ve all heard of. I get clearly AI papers all the time and there’s nothing I can do about it.
Comment by Gilded9 at 01/12/2024 at 13:14 UTC
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I mean, there's truth to the statement 'They don't come to learn'.
They come for a degree. Which may or may not require whatever class they're taking (especially if it's an elective.) If they're shelling out thousands to take a class, it isn't to learn.
Maybe, ultimately, electives should just be removed from the college process?
Comment by PB174 at 01/12/2024 at 10:21 UTC
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Teachers are simply throwing in the towel. Many I know and work with are putting in the time until retirement or a better job comes along and figure, fuck it - it’s not worth the efforts any more. Am I supposed to work 10 extra hours a week to try to watch people cheating? Cheat then, what the fuck do I care
Comment by Unlikely-Complex3737 at 01/12/2024 at 15:48 UTC
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How did it go?
Comment by Ioite_ at 01/12/2024 at 18:21 UTC
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Of course they don't, they come for papers. The amount of information useful in an actual field presented in universities is close to zero.
Comment by Cube1mat1ons at 23/12/2024 at 00:02 UTC
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Give it to him.
Comment by Embarrassed_Ant_8861 at 01/12/2024 at 07:46 UTC
-3 upvotes, 1 direct replies
I mean if he went as far as to hire a fucking lawyer maybe he didn't actually cheat?
Comment by JusCheelMang at 01/12/2024 at 08:09 UTC
-2 upvotes, 0 direct replies
Good.
Prove it.
Comment by TelephonePositive404 at 01/12/2024 at 14:42 UTC
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Yeah well. Your class is a pointless waste of time. If he was learning skills relevant to a career maybe it would be interesting and would not get a 0. Also you have a 0 for something you had little proof of, wierd.