Understanding hate on Reddit, and the impact of our new policy

https://www.reddit.com/r/RedditSafety/comments/idclo1/understanding_hate_on_reddit_and_the_impact_of/

created by worstnerd on 20/08/2020 at 15:39 UTC

703 upvotes, 68 top-level comments (showing 25)

Intro

A couple of months ago I shared the quarterly security report[1] with an expanded focus on abuse on the platform, and a commitment to sharing a study on the prevalence of hate on Reddit. This post is a response to that commitment. Additionally, I would like to share some more detailed information about our large actions against hateful subreddits associated with our updated content policies[2].

1: https://www.reddit.com/r/redditsecurity/comments/hbiuas/reddit_security_report_june_18_2020/

2: https://www.redditinc.com/policies/content-policy

Rule 1 states:

“Remember the human. Reddit is a place for creating community and belonging, not for attacking marginalized or vulnerable groups of people. Everyone has a right to use Reddit free of harassment, bullying, and threats of violence. Communities and users that incite violence or that promote hate based on identity or vulnerability will be banned.”

Subreddit Ban Waves

First, let’s focus on the actions that we have taken against hateful subreddits. Since rolling out our new policies on June 29, we have banned nearly 7k subreddits (including ban evading subreddits) under our new policy. These subreddits generally fall under three categories:

Here is a distribution of the subscriber volume:

https://preview.redd.it/e6cbng3me6i51.png?width=600&format=png&auto=webp&s=c14e36bf4dab4e9b83d807fd332e876436a8b3fa

The subreddits banned were viewed by approximately 365k users each day prior to their bans.

At this point, we don’t have a complete story on the long term impact of these subreddit bans, however, we have started trying to quantify the impact on user behavior. What we saw is an 18% reduction in users posting hateful content as compared to the two weeks prior to the ban wave. While I would love that number to be 100%, I'm encouraged by the progress.

https://preview.redd.it/vtjjvf2ne6i51.png?width=960&format=png&auto=webp&s=5b36833160502a5219b149e3fcd4f971394765be

Prevalence of Hate on Reddit

First I want to make it clear that this is a preliminary study, we certainly have more work to do to understand and address how these behaviors and content take root. Defining hate at scale is fraught with challenges. Sometimes hate can be very overt, other times it can be more subtle. In other circumstances, historically marginalized groups may reclaim language and use it in a way that is acceptable for them, but unacceptable for others to use. Additionally, people are weirdly creative about how to be mean to each other. They evolve their language to make it challenging for outsiders (and models) to understand. All that to say that hateful language is inherently nuanced, but we should not let perfect be the enemy of good. We will continue to evolve our ability to understand hate and abuse at scale.

We focused on language that’s hateful and targeting another user or group. To generate and categorize the list of keywords, we used a wide variety of resources and AutoModerator* rules from large subreddits that deal with abuse regularly. We leveraged third-party tools as much as possible for a couple of reasons: 1. Minimize any of our own preconceived notions about what is hateful, and 2. We believe in the power of community; where a small group of individuals (us) may be wrong, a larger group has a better chance of getting it right. We have explicitly focused on text-based abuse, meaning that abusive images, links, or inappropriate use of community awards won’t be captured here. We are working on expanding our ability to detect hateful content via other modalities and have consulted with civil and human rights organizations to help improve our understanding.

Internally, we talk about a “bad experience funnel” which is loosely: bad content created → bad content seen → bad content reported → bad content removed by mods (this is a very loose picture since AutoModerator and moderators remove a lot of bad content before it is seen or reported...Thank you mods!). Below you will see a snapshot of these numbers for the month before our new policy was rolled out.

What we see is that about 0.2% of content is identified as potentially hateful, though it represents a slightly lower percentage of views. The reason for this reduction is due to AutoModerator rules which automatically remove much of this content before it is seen by users. We see 8% of this content being reported by users, which is lower than anticipated. Again, this is partially driven by AutoModerator removals and the reduced exposure. The lower reporting figure is also related to the fact that not all of the things surfaced as *potentially* hateful are actually hateful...so it would be surprising for this to have been 100% as well. Finally, we find that about 30% of hateful content is removed each day, with the majority being removed by mods (both manual actions and AutoModerator). Admins are responsible for about 3% of removals, which is ~3x the admin removal rate for other report categories, reflecting our increased focus on hateful and abusive reports.

We also looked at the target of the hateful content. Was the hateful content targeting a person’s race, or their religion, etc? Today, we are only able to do this at a high level (e.g., race-based hate), vs more granular (e.g., hate directed at Black people), but we will continue to work on refining this in the future. What we see is that almost half of the hateful content targets people’s ethnicity or nationality.

https://preview.redd.it/smop7wzne6i51.png?width=702&format=png&auto=webp&s=4d7ba7d5111e1751d84d5a8847b95deda96db064

We have more work to do on both our understanding of hate on the platform and eliminating its presence. We will continue to improve transparency around our efforts to tackle these issues, so please consider this the continuation of the conversation, not the end. Additionally, it continues to be clear how valuable the moderators are and how impactful AutoModerator can be at reducing the exposure of bad content. We also noticed that there are many subreddits already removing a lot of this content, but were doing so manually. We are working on developing some new moderator tools that will help ease the automatic detection of this content without building a bunch of complex AutoModerator rules. I’m hoping we will have more to share on this front in the coming months. As always, I’ll be sticking around to answer questions, and I’d love to hear your thoughts on this as well as any data that you would like to see addressed in future iterations.

Comments

Comment by itskdog at 20/08/2020 at 17:20 UTC

17 upvotes, 2 direct replies

I help out often in r/modhelp. There have been a lot of questions recently about people’s brand-new subs being banned before they had any posts, and so we’re sending them all to the modmail of r/ModSupport or r/reddit.com to appeal to you guys.

Obviously some of those would have been in bad faith, but it would be interesting to see how many of the 7,000 banned subreddits you listed have been appealed, and how many of those have been in good-faith, getting their subreddit restored, given that it appears that most of these bans were done automatically rather than manually.

In addition, do you believe the number of false bans are going down as you improve your new-sub scanner, and how many bans that haven’t been appealed might have been a mistake. Are there humans reviewing random samples of the banned subs, for example?

Comment by Bardfinn at 20/08/2020 at 15:58 UTC

129 upvotes, 4 direct replies

This is incredibly insightful and helpful. Thank you so much for this transparency in your process and in the overview of how much content on Reddit is hateful material, and the efforts to combat it.

The 8% report rate by users is frustratingly low - identifying and eliminating pain points on reporting hateful content should be a priority, in my opinion.

Currently, to report hateful material to a moderator is ***five clicks*** / taps.

To report hateful material to the admins directly is 8+ clicks / taps - including for a moderator to escalate an issue to admins.

Reducing the "paperwork" for both the average user to report hateful material, and for moderators to escalate that material to admins for violations of Sitewide rule 1, will drive more reporting and better reporting.

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There's also a perception that not enough is done to shut down accounts posting clearly hateful material - as an example, moderators / users have experienced lately reporting accounts for several instances of blatant racial hatred - and have seen those accounts not be suspended. Sometimes they are promptly suspended - sometimes they're not.

Both of these go back to the difficulty in recruiting people to report hatred - that's always going to be a challenge, since it's something people don't want to see in the first place, don't want to go looking for, and definitely don't want to make it their purpose in life to combat.

Finding ways to combat the perception / reputation of Reddit not addressing hatred and not taking reporting seriously / handling reports promptly, will take work.

Thank you for this update!

Comment by [deleted] at 20/08/2020 at 15:44 UTC

113 upvotes, 4 direct replies

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Comment by sudo999 at 20/08/2020 at 20:25 UTC

14 upvotes, 2 direct replies

Defining hate at scale is fraught with challenges. Sometimes hate can be very overt, other times it can be more subtle. In other circumstances, historically marginalized groups may reclaim language and use it in a way that is acceptable for them, but unacceptable for others to use. Additionally, people are weirdly creative about how to be mean to each other. They evolve their language to make it challenging for outsiders (and models) to understand. All that to say that hateful language is inherently nuanced, but we should not let perfect be the enemy of good. We will continue to evolve our ability to understand hate and abuse at scale.

This is very worth highlighting, and so important because it will never be totally possible to 100% automate this process, or even to rely on outsourced human content reviewers following simple guidelines.

Take a recent example I'm sure AEO is familiar with right now - a certain anime related community had (well, seems to still be having) a debacle over banning a certain transphobic slur, one widely considered by I'd say the majority of trans people to be hateful or at the very least, deeply dehumanizing, but hotly debated within the anime fandom. Angry users have used the uproar over the ban as an excuse to perpetuate transphobic harassment or scapegoat trans subreddits (esp. the one I moderate). To make matters more confusing, the slur is also a word which can also be used in totally benign and unrelated contexts. Someone who isn't trans/isn't well versed in trans issues and doesn't watch anime would have *no idea* what I'm talking about but it's been dominating trans and anime Reddit for weeks. People have repeatedly sent me one-word comments and PMs with just that one slur (and often a variety of other slurs/harassment, of course, comes with the territory tbh) but since it's virtually unknown outside the trans and anime spheres, it probably wouldn't even be recognized as hate speech by human AEO reviewers who aren't already up on what it is and what it means. I've reported some when I've had time (since I'm usually on mobile, the process of reporting multiple sitewide violations at once isn't very streamlined in my client so regrettably sometimes my priority is just remove and ban and move on when there are a lot of things I need to do at once, and because of the high number of "we have resolved the issue" comments as opposed to "we have taken action under out Content Policy" responses I get on borderline cases they're low-priority for me)

on that note: a thing I would LOVE to see is a batch report feature for these kinds of things. That is, a page with as many fields as I need for all the links to all sorts of harassing/rule-breaking content, since these types of posts and comments do usually come in batches, whether because it's one problem user or whether it's because of a brigade or coordinated action. This would make reporting to admins so much faster and easier and I would be more likely to have the time and energy to report those "borderline" cases if I could report all of a user's problematic content at once to give the reviewer a better context of their behavior.

Comment by Yay295 at 20/08/2020 at 16:05 UTC

19 upvotes, 0 direct replies

I've heard that some subs were banned incorrectly. Do you know how reinstating these subs affects the stats? Specifically:

The subreddits banned were viewed by approximately 365k users each day prior to their bans.

Comment by [deleted] at 20/08/2020 at 15:45 UTC*

47 upvotes, 3 direct replies

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Comment by jesswesthemp at 21/08/2020 at 05:39 UTC

5 upvotes, 0 direct replies

Do r/failed_Normies next. That sub is a cesspool

Comment by throwaway_45674 at 22/08/2020 at 18:35 UTC

7 upvotes, 1 direct replies

Islamophobia keeps getting excluded whenever Rule 1 is put in effect. r/againsthatesubreddits is going hoarse pointing out subs like r/chodi and I I myself had to delete an account because it kept getting brigaded and getting threats for pointing this out. Below is a post which barely has 80 upvotes but points out why this sub is among the most hate filled place on the internet.

r/Chodi is a North Indian Hindu supremacist subreddit.

Apparently destroying an Islamic religious site in the present day in retribution for being plundered by Mughal emperors in the past is okay now? Totally not Islamophobic to call destruction of a religious site "wholesome".

Using misogynistic[1] slurs against Lauren Frayer[2]

1: https://www.reddit.com/r/Chodi/comments/i4eztk/this_loudi_tried_so_hard_to_stop_ram_billboard_in/

2: https://www.reddit.com/r/Chodi/comments/i4eztk/this_loudi_tried_so_hard_to_stop_ram_billboard_in/

TIL Muslim people in the present day have to "bear it unfortunately"[3] because a few holy-book-misinterpreting loonies decided to bomb Mumbai. Oh and of course every single Muslim is responsible for the actions of a select few. /s

3: https://www.reddit.com/r/Chodi/comments/i4mkq7/idk_if_you_all_understand_or_not_but_the_amount/g0j8o3i?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x

Unironically co-opting racial slurs, and more Islamophobia

Apparently Muslims are uninformed[4] (but your tilak-wearing machete-wielding Islamophobic uncle isn't, lol.)

4: https://www.reddit.com/r/Chodi/comments/i4j62g/its_amazing_how_uninformed_muslims_are/

Unironically supporting Akhand Bharat[5] ("unbroken India" consisting of the entire Indian subcontinent unified under Hinduism and Hinduism alone -- that's what the saffron colour means)

5: https://www.reddit.com/r/Chodi/comments/i45bfa/%E0%A4%9C%E0%A4%AF_%E0%A4%B6%E0%A4%B0_%E0%A4%B0%E0%A4%AE/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x

Genocide denial.[6] Read this article for more information about how Muslims are persecuted in Hindu majoritarian countries: https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/12/09/blood-and-soil-in-narendra-modis-india[7][8]

6: https://www.reddit.com/r/Chodi/comments/i4dbqv/burnol_out_of_stock_since_yesterday/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x

7: https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/12/09/blood-and-soil-in-narendra-modis-india

8: https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/12/09/blood-and-soil-in-narendra-modis-india

So just because other countries are being fascist and totalitarian that means we can be fascist and totalitarian too? Gimme some o' that Nazi Juice UwU

Thinking South Indian states are "parasites" again.

Conspiracy theories directed at South Indian states again.[9] These guys have a low-key hate boner for Kerala. Jealous much?

9: https://www.reddit.com/r/Chodi/comments/i418kr/sekular/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x

Apparently Bharat (India) is Hindu now?[10] Obviously a sign of a country treating all its citizens equally irrespective of their religions. /s

10: https://www.reddit.com/r/Chodi/comments/i40o0a/jai_shree_ram/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x

More generalizations about Muslim people.

Telling a Muslim Redditor they "don't have documents"[11] (read as "are here illegally") This is a reference to the CAA/ NRC that was almost passed nationwide in India.

11: https://www.reddit.com/r/Chodi/comments/i4kwly/_/g0ix8z9?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x

"Pakistan's children will also be forced to chant Jai Shree Ram"[12] [Image Post]

12: https://www.reddit.com/r/Chodi/comments/i43z9z/we_werent_expecting_special_forces/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x

Apparently Muslim people "should be grateful they weren't forced to leave in 1947"[13] (During Partition, there were riots in India around 1947. A large number of people were lynched and murdered, Hindus and Muslims alike.)

13: https://www.reddit.com/r/Chodi/comments/i3y886/murdered_by_words/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x

Doxing Muslim Facebook users.

Hindu Rashtra (country) in the past and in the future[14] (erasure of other religions)

14: https://www.reddit.com/r/Chodi/comments/i41ak6/hindu_rashtra_bhuthbhavishya/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x

Objectifying women[15]. (Women are *kheer* r/chodi users don't get to taste.) To any women in r/Chodi: getout.jpg[16]

15: https://www.reddit.com/r/Chodi/comments/i4axir/yeh_kheer_chahiye/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x

16: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Get_Out

Calling Pakistani citizens "Paki"[17] (a slur)

17: https://www.reddit.com/r/Chodi/comments/i42buz/pakis_themselve_showing_whole_kashmir_as_part_of/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x

I'm hungry, so I'll edit this later with more examples. I pretty much made this to show to all the idiots who brigaded my AskReddit comment about toxic subreddits. Most of r/chodi believes human rights are favours bestowed on members of other religions and that India does their non-Hindu citizens a favour by "allowing" them to live here. They're exactly like alt-right trolls in the US. Same rape culture, Islamophobia, misogyny, etc.

BTW all of these are from just yesterday's posts. Things got a little excited because a Hindu temple was built on the same land the Babri Masjid (mosque) used to be on until it got demolished by Hindu supremacist fanatics.

RIP my account and karma. Probably won't be able to use it after this. I don't trust these religious fanatics. Apologies for any grammatical errors; English is not my first language. Guten Tag.

r/chodi is full of such demented fucks looking to proclaim their "viraat (strong) Hindu-ness" by harassing people anonymously on the internet.

Here are more links to problematic posts:

More Hindu Rashtra BS: https://www.reddit.com/r/Chodi/comments/i7lsm8/%E0%A4%9C%E0%A4%AF%E0%A4%A4%5C_%E0%A4%B9%E0%A4%A6%E0%A4%B0%E0%A4%B7%E0%A4%9F%E0%A4%B0%E0%A4%AE%5C_%E0%A4%9A%E0%A4%A8%E0%A4%AE%E0%A4%AF%5C_%E0%A4%85%E0%A4%98%E0%A4%A4/[18][19] (link function not working, so now I have to paste them here)

18: https://www.reddit.com/r/Chodi/comments/i7lsm8/%E0%A4%9C%E0%A4%AF%E0%A4%A4%5C_%E0%A4%B9%E0%A4%A6%E0%A4%B0%E0%A4%B7%E0%A4%9F%E0%A4%B0%E0%A4%AE%5C_%E0%A4%9A%E0%A4%A8%E0%A4%AE%E0%A4%AF%5C_%E0%A4%85%E0%A4%98%E0%A4%A4/

19: https://www.reddit.com/r/Chodi/comments/i7lsm8/%E0%A4%9C%E0%A4%AF%E0%A4%A4_%E0%A4%B9%E0%A4%A6%E0%A4%B0%E0%A4%B7%E0%A4%9F%E0%A4%B0%E0%A4%AE_%E0%A4%9A%E0%A4%A8%E0%A4%AE%E0%A4%AF_%E0%A4%85%E0%A4%98%E0%A4%A4/

Posting Islamophobic propaganda: https://www.reddit.com/r/Chodi/comments/i7m9iw/future%5C_of%5C_india%5C_and%5C_hindus%5C_if%5C_buslims%5C_become%5C_50/[20][21]

20: https://www.reddit.com/r/Chodi/comments/i7m9iw/future%5C_of%5C_india%5C_and%5C_hindus%5C_if%5C_buslims%5C_become%5C_50/

21: https://www.reddit.com/r/Chodi/comments/i7m9iw/future_of_india_and_hindus_if_buslims_become_50/

Body shaming/ misogyny: https://www.reddit.com/r/Chodi/comments/i7nkq9/yeah%5C_i%5C_made%5C_fun%5C_of%5C_their%5C_looks%5C_freedom%5C_of/[22][23]

22: https://www.reddit.com/r/Chodi/comments/i7nkq9/yeah%5C_i%5C_made%5C_fun%5C_of%5C_their%5C_looks%5C_freedom%5C_of/

23: https://www.reddit.com/r/Chodi/comments/i7nkq9/yeah_i_made_fun_of_their_looks_freedom_of/

Supporting targeted harassment of Rhea Chakraborty (she was dating Sushant Singh Rajput, a famous Bollywood actor who recently committed suicide. Obviously it's always the women's fault /s) https://www.reddit.com/r/Chodi/comments/i7c7r4/i%5C_didnt%5C_see%5C_much%5C_stuff%5C_over%5C_this%5C_rhea%5C_situation/[24][25]

24: https://www.reddit.com/r/Chodi/comments/i7c7r4/i%5C_didnt%5C_see%5C_much%5C_stuff%5C_over%5C_this%5C_rhea%5C_situation/

25: https://www.reddit.com/r/Chodi/comments/i7c7r4/i_didnt_see_much_stuff_over_this_rhea_situation/

They want to... bomb Pakistan? Something tells me that will not go over well. https://www.reddit.com/r/Chodi/comments/i70gpr/porkiston%5C_goes%5C_booom/[26][27]

26: https://www.reddit.com/r/Chodi/comments/i70gpr/porkiston%5C_goes%5C_booom/

27: https://www.reddit.com/r/Chodi/comments/i70gpr/porkiston_goes_booom/

Openly admitting to brigading r/india: https://www.reddit.com/r/Chodi/comments/i756z6/stop%5C_getting%5C_yourself%5C_banned%5C_in%5C_randia/[28][29]

28: https://www.reddit.com/r/Chodi/comments/i756z6/stop%5C_getting%5C_yourself%5C_banned%5C_in%5C_randia/

29: https://www.reddit.com/r/Chodi/comments/i756z6/stop_getting_yourself_banned_in_randia/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Chodi/comments/i6xxjj/noc/[30][31] You mean the Yogiji that stood by and said nothing as a man on stage with him said that Muslim women should be raped by Hindu men in their graves?!

30: https://www.reddit.com/r/Chodi/comments/i6xxjj/noc/

31: https://www.reddit.com/r/Chodi/comments/i6xxjj/noc/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Chodi/comments/i6xs6i/surely%5C_has%5C_been%5C_done%5C_before%5C_but/[32][33] Australia also included in Akhand Bharat memes

32: https://www.reddit.com/r/Chodi/comments/i6xs6i/surely%5C_has%5C_been%5C_done%5C_before%5C_but/

33: https://www.reddit.com/r/Chodi/comments/i6xs6i/surely_has_been_done_before_but/

More Islamophobia: https://www.reddit.com/r/Chodi/comments/i6rbkr/abdul%5C_making%5C_machine%5C_go%5C_brrrr/[34][35]

34: https://www.reddit.com/r/Chodi/comments/i6rbkr/abdul%5C_making%5C_machine%5C_go%5C_brrrr/

35: https://www.reddit.com/r/Chodi/comments/i6rbkr/abdul_making_machine_go_brrrr/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Chodi/comments/i6fwyd/%5C_/[36][37]

36: https://www.reddit.com/r/Chodi/comments/i6fwyd/%5C_/

37: https://www.reddit.com/r/Chodi/comments/i6fwyd/_/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Chodi/comments/i6j80w/uk%5C_ke%5C_laue%5C_lag%5C_gaye/[38][39]

38: https://www.reddit.com/r/Chodi/comments/i6j80w/uk%5C_ke%5C_laue%5C_lag%5C_gaye/

39: https://www.reddit.com/r/Chodi/comments/i6j80w/uk_ke_laue_lag_gaye/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Chodi/comments/i6mhxt/lock%5C_stock%5C_barrel%5C_and%5C_a%5C_boom/[40][41]

40: https://www.reddit.com/r/Chodi/comments/i6mhxt/lock%5C_stock%5C_barrel%5C_and%5C_a%5C_boom/

41: https://www.reddit.com/r/Chodi/comments/i6mhxt/lock_stock_barrel_and_a_boom/

I really don't know how this sub survived the ban wave.

Comment by Halaku at 20/08/2020 at 15:47 UTC

23 upvotes, 1 direct replies

It appears that the current Reddit response to users saying "*It's not* **really** *hate, it's just irony / humor / satire / shitposting / a meme, bro!*" can be summarized as "*Regardless of intent, if it looks like hate, swims like hate, and quacks like hate, we'll treat it as hate*." and then the content in question goes away... sometimes along with the user, or the subreddit.

If the above's an accurate summation, can it be safely said that this is the direction Reddit intends to continue towards?

Comment by JohnSmiththeGamer at 20/08/2020 at 20:06 UTC

4 upvotes, 0 direct replies

Do you have any plans to allow us to report subreddits for duplicating banned subreddits? Any plans to let us report who subreddits and/or threads?

Comment by TheNewPoetLawyerette at 20/08/2020 at 15:56 UTC

35 upvotes, 1 direct replies

Thank you for this breakdown. I've been really looking forward to a post like this.

It's really nice to see that you guys are taking this so seriously. The fact that you're making 3x the removals for this category vs other reports is not going unnoticed by me; I've been pleasantly surprised by how quickly I get report ticket closed notifications under this new policy.

I look forward to more updates on this sort of data as time goes on, because from a sociological perspective it's going to be fascinating, whatever the outcome.

Comment by Kensin at 20/08/2020 at 19:09 UTC

6 upvotes, 1 direct replies

Can you explain what the 7% "unclear" target of hate is?

Comment by SaidTheCanadian at 20/08/2020 at 20:35 UTC

3 upvotes, 1 direct replies

Is there any reason why some of this analysis hasn't been outsourced to academic researchers (or another 3rd party group)? I feel that everyone might benefit with that kind of relationship:

1. Some academics get access to a huge trove of data from which they can publish.

2. Reddit spends fewer person-hours of effort; probably gets a better analysis from people with greater expertiese.

3. Users get greater transparency, as the analysis is done by an independent 3rd party, hence there isn't the same motivation for only telling us numbers that make Reddit look good.

Comment by Emmx2039 at 20/08/2020 at 16:02 UTC

7 upvotes, 1 direct replies

Thanks for sharing this info. It's very useful to see the affects that banning subreddit has, even if this is only a small snapshot of it.

We are working on developing some new moderator tools that will help ease the automatic detection of this content without building a bunch of complex AutoModerator rules.

Would this involve improving/creating tools like the current new.reddit regex rules (making more complex filters easier to use/access), or would this be something completely new (akin to some popular user-made bots)?

Although I like making filters/Autmoderator rules etc, I get why reddit is moving away from developing more features for it (or at least, appears to be). It can be daunting to learn how to code it, and using new.reddit tools are likely going to be easier to understand by more people.

I understand that the focus appears to be non-Automoderator related, and it may be a little too early to share info about it, but I'd be interested in finding out more.

Comment by infodawg at 20/08/2020 at 20:07 UTC

4 upvotes, 1 direct replies

How are you preventing organizations that harvest reddit user data from using it in bigoted and racist ways?

Comment by MrShakedown1 at 22/08/2020 at 12:47 UTC

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Always interesting to read more about "the new way of Reddit" moderation.

Comment by Agamidae at 22/08/2020 at 13:17 UTC

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6.47M views on potentially hateful content each day (0.16% of total views)

Wait, does this mean there's 4 Billion total views? Each day?

Holy moly

Comment by babybackbabybackbaby at 29/08/2020 at 00:41 UTC

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Can you please start banning subs that are dedicated to onlyfans leaks? Thanks

Comment by StopStealingMyShit at 09/10/2020 at 20:52 UTC

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It saddens me that reddit is no longer a place where ideas can be expressed freely. It was probably one of the last hold-outs on the internet that didn't feel the need to curate the world's information for it's users and instead let them curate their own content with a community centered approach to content moderation.

Your former CEO Yishan Wong literally made the statement:

"We stand for free speech. This means we are not going to ban distasteful subreddits. We will not ban legal content even if we find it odious or if we personally condemn it."

Well, you have started doing exactly that, even going as far as banning very large political groups and conspiracy groups. Once you start banning things that are not illegal, you open a Pandora's box. You are now the editor for all opinions and information on reddit - you are the arbiter of what is considered acceptable content.

You have banned subreddits that sell guns - a literal constitutional right of all law abiding adult americans.

You have banned subreddits that make fun of people who are fat. Is it nice? No, but it's pretty unreddit-like to be unwilling to tolerate a fat joke.

You have banned subreddits dedicated to hacking and modification of games and entertainment equipment purely from corporate pressure.

You literally banned the subreddit dedicated to the President of the United States and his followers (of whom I am not a fan), but you did it literally because it was inconvenient for you. They were literally banned for "antagonizing the company".

Tl;dr - Don't try and convince everyone that this blatant censorship is in their best interest. Reddit and it's leadership are frankly just being weak and going down the same rabbithole that Facebook and Twitter have gone down - which may end up with everyone losing access to the modern internet as we know it.

You are complicit in ruining the free and open internet and I am tired of everyone telling us how it is for our own good. It's not. It's for **your** own good. You are refusing to have a backbone and stand up for the principles that reddit was founded on - free and open expression with community led content moderation.

You are bowing to corporate and Government interests to try and move the unseemly things from our sight. Well, frankly, we deserve to see those unseemly things so we can make up our own minds on how unseemly they are - IE, we want more than just your insecure CEO's opinion on a given issue. If we wanted sanitized content, then we would be be watching Sesame Street.

Comment by twilightsraven at 24/10/2020 at 21:12 UTC

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Where can I report a moderator or moderators for bladen abusive power

Comment by PMonkey03 at 13/12/2020 at 22:03 UTC

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This is kinda sad, this goes completely against freedom of speech, if you don't like what people post then ignore it, let them be themselves.

Comment by WojaksLastStand at 20/08/2020 at 20:00 UTC

6 upvotes, 1 direct replies

How do you decide what is hateful? A sub like /r/blackpeopletwitter is full of hateful content but suffers no consequences for it.

Comment by [deleted] at 20/08/2020 at 21:33 UTC

6 upvotes, 3 direct replies

That's good but misinformation is an even bigger issue on reddit. There's much more misinformation than hateful content. Misinformation is worse in that now several thousand people believe something that's factually untrue in comparison to your feelings being hurt for a short amount of time.

Hateful content is a very broad term what % of posts on reddit could be deemed hateful by a sizeable amount of the community? 90+%? it's a double edged sword and seems very bias in that there's significant hate against law enforcement that's never acted upon.

r/PublicFreakout is probably the worse offender for misinformation they banned all of the rational people and never take action on comments or completely false titles. This was really bad the past 3 months comment sections just filled with misinformation. I noticed it was "restricted" recently but still not enough.

What about r/AgainstHateSubreddits this is ironically a hate subreddit and it's brigade central forwarding everyone on to downvote things and spam reports. They make a comment with alt account, screenshot it and go trying to get subreddits banned. Very hateful activity.

Comment by _altertabledrop at 20/08/2020 at 16:41 UTC

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Cool. Too bad you still allow subreddits that are actively killing people like /r/lockdownskepticism and /r/nonewnormal

Comment by DubTeeDub at 20/08/2020 at 19:14 UTC

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Thank you very much for this update. It is very helpful and I am glad to see how much effort is going into this.

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What are you doing about the moderators of these subreddits and their more active users? Are they being suspended and having their accounts actioned?

How often are you sharing warning messages to users that post or interact positively with hateful content?

Are you tracking the time it takes to respond to these reports? I have noticed my reports on certain subreddits are being acted on almost immediately, while reports in others still takes a week or two. Do certain subreddits, like those that are quarantined, have a higher priority?

Are you taking efforts to track where members of these hateful communities shift to once their hate sub is banned?

How many team members are currently on the anti-evil staff? How has that shifted over time and what plans do you have for future growth in this team?