https://www.reddit.com/r/reddit/comments/16ryhv9/celebrating_great_content_is_as_good_as_gold/
created by werksquan on 25/09/2023 at 17:35 UTC
0 upvotes, 214 top-level comments (showing 25)
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Gold[1] is coming back! But like all sequels, it will look a bit different this time around. In a select group of pilot subreddits and over the next few hours, gold will be available to use on the Reddit native app (with web starting in October). If you see a post or comment that you think deserves some extra love, you can now give it gold as a token of your appreciation in one of the pilot subreddits.
To simplify the experience of awarding content that you like, you can now purchase gold directly from the post or comment that you are looking to reward by long pressing the upvote button on the iOS Reddit native app today, on Android over the course of the week, or by hovering over it on web (when it becomes available). From there, a suite of 6 gilded upvotes with varying values will appear, to directly reward the content that you love.
During our pilot launch, we’ll be monitoring things like gold purchases, moderator impact, and user safety. This data will help guide the future rollout of gold to all eligible content. We are also exploring ways to bring the benefits of gold back to the communities themselves.
Caveats: gold is not eligible in NSFW, trauma support, or quarantined subreddits. You will also continue to earn karma on content that is upvoted.
Check out what gold looks like and the communities that are piloting the program below:
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Pilot Communities:
But wait, there’s more![14]
6: http://reddit.com/r/hydrohomies
7: http://reddit.com/r/hyruleengineering
8: http://reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck
10: http://reddit.com/r/photoshoprequest
11: http://reddit.com/r/popculturechat
12: https://www.reddit.com/r/popheads
13: http://reddit.com/r/teachers
Evel Knievel[15] once said that “the finest compliment you can pay a man is that his word was as good as gold.” Evel was right. And it’s why we are excited to introduce the Contributor Program[16]!
16: http://www.reddit.com/contributor-program
As we shared,[17] Reddit thrives on community recognition of high quality content. This is how the best memes make their way into the hearts and homes of people on and off of Reddit. The Contributor Program we’re piloting will give eligible users the ability to earn cash[18] based on the karma and gold they’ve earned on qualifying contributions. If you meet designated eligibility criteria[19] and successfully complete our Contributor Program verification process[20], you’ll receive a new shiny badge on your profile indicating you’re in the program and can earn cash! That’s right, your fake internet points and gold can now make you eligible to earn cash, or dollars in this case (and we mean that literally, as this will only be available in the US to start but will be available internationally at the beginning of 2024).
17: https://www.reddit.com/r/reddit/comments/14ytp7s/reworking_awarding_changes_to_awards_coins_and/
18: https://support.reddithelp.com/hc/en-us/articles/17331720493972
19: https://support.reddithelp.com/hc/en-us/articles/17331620007572
20: https://support.reddithelp.com/hc/en-us/articles/17331636499604
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Joining the Contributor Program
Like with all things on Reddit, all monetizable contributions are subject to Reddit’s User Agreement[21] and Content Policy[22]. Reddit will take the same enforcement actions against contributions breaking Reddit’s rules. Here are our new Contributor Terms[23] and Contributor Monetization Policy[24] for the program.
21: https://www.redditinc.com/policies/user-agreement
22: https://www.redditinc.com/policies/content-policy
23: https://www.redditinc.com/policies/contributor-terms
24: https://www.redditinc.com/policies/contributor-monetization-policy
We are working with Persona[25] for Know Your Customer (KYC) screening and identity verification and Stripe[26] for fraud support and payouts as added layers of protection. Any personal information shared with these third-party services will be stored in their systems. If you or your content is found to be in violation of our terms or policies, your payouts will be withheld and you could be removed from the program entirely. This can happen after a payout as well, and could result in a reduction in any future payments you may be eligible to receive. But for those who continue to be standup Reddit citizens, cue the montage of visions of grandeur and the Scrooge McDuck[27] lifestyle.
Prior to this announcement, the Reddit Mod Council[28] provided feedback that we are implementing as we pilot gold and the Contributor Program. We are closely monitoring newly gilded content, moderator impact, and user safety, and will keep the community updated. For more information, please visit our Help Center for gold[29], our Help Center for the Contributor Program[30], or file a Support Ticket[31] through our dedicated system.
28: https://support.reddithelp.com/hc/en-us/articles/15484058898196-Reddit-Mod-Council-
29: https://support.reddithelp.com/hc/en-us/articles/17331548463764
30: https://support.reddithelp.com/hc/en-us/articles/17331620007572
31: https://support.reddithelp.com/hc/en-us/requests/new?ticket_form_id=19148839169812
In the meantime, check out the FAQs below and test this yourself in a pilot community listed above!
Comment by werksquan at 25/09/2023 at 17:38 UTC*
1 upvotes, 1 direct replies
Gold will be made available on all surfaces on Android over the course of this week (September 25th).
Gold is only available on select content on the subreddits (listed above), and will not include NSFW subreddits or posts tagged as NSFW, quarantined subreddits, or trauma support subreddits.
Gold is available for everyone! But not everyone is eligible to participate in the Contributor Program. If you have accumulated at least 100 karma in the last 12 months and 10 gold, then you could be eligible to earn cash through the Contributor Program. The Contributor Program is currently only available in the US (with an international rollout coming in 2024) and will only be available to users who are complying with the Contributor Terms and Contributor Monetization Policy.
Yes to the general public but not to the gold recipient. However, coming soon you will have the option to give gold 100% anonymously!
You can find gold to give by long pressing the upvote button on mobile or hovering over it on web (when it becomes available). You can find your gold balance in your Profile as well as in your Contributor Dashboard (should you successfully onboard as part of the program).
Redditors give gold (and karma) to celebrate good content and highlight it for others on Reddit. If you’ve received gold, enjoy it! Bask in the glory of the glow of gold! Feel proud. Gold helps posts and comments stand out and is given to some of the best content on Reddit. If you’re eligible for the Contributor Program, you can receive cash from Reddit for the gold and karma you earn on qualifying contributions.
Gold can be purchased via the Reddit App on Apple iOS and Google Android through the in-app purchase flow and on desktop through Stripe with the following payment methods: credit card, debit card, Apple Pay, Google Pay, and WeChat Pay.
The new version of gold will no longer be connected to Premium and users won’t be able to purchase Premium for other users anymore. However, all of the current benefits of Premium for current and future Premium holders will remain the same.
We’re piloting the gold and the Contributor Program, and we have big plans for the future! The most immediate ones are:
We’re glad that you would like to have gold enabled on your subreddit! Please fill out this form[1] to get started and we’ll reach out to you via ModMail for potential next steps.
YES! Mods are allowed to participate in the Contributor Program and are subject to the same eligibility requirements as everyone else. This will also be based on content contribution and not moderation efforts as laid out in the Mod Code of Conduct.
If you are not eligible for the Contributor Program, you cannot receive cash for your contributions, even if you’ve earned the minimum amount of gold and karma you’d need to participate. If and when you become eligible for the program over time, the gold you previously received will still be there. See more on why you might not be eligible for the Contributor Program here.
Contributors can be in one of two program tiers (Contributor and Top Contributor) depending on karma earned in the last 12 months and gold received. There will be a standard payout rate for Contributors ($.90 per 1 gold) and an enhanced payout rate for Top Contributors ($1.00 per 1 gold). The payment will be a function of multiplying the payout rate by the number of gold that a contributor has received on eligible contributions. Learn more about earning here.
Reddit will calculate your karma for the Contributor Program starting on the day you first received gold. Any karma you earned before receiving gold will NOT count towards your Contributor Program karma balance. For example:
If you’re eligible to participate in the program, your payout rate will be based on the Contributor Program karma balance you have at the end of the month. For example, you receive your first gold on September 25th and, by October 31st, you received 10 gold, then if you’ve earned:
Yes, because this is a separate program, we will need to have you go through the onboarding processes for both platforms again.
Only content and contributions that comply with our User Agreement, Content Policy, Contributor Terms, and Contributor Monetization Policy are eligible for contributor earnings under the program. If you see a spam post in the wild, you can report it. If you see a post that includes your content, you can report it. We won’t be making payouts to contributors on content that has been reported and we’ve determined to be policy violating.
The first criteria for being a part of the Contributor Program is that you have to be human! We’ve built both proactive and reactive ways to address these issues. Bad actors should be prevented from participating in the program through:
Reddit along with its third-party partners take fraud very seriously and will investigate fraudulent activity. Users who violate our Contributor Terms and engage in fraudulent behavior will be kicked out of the Contributor Program and have payment withheld.
edit: formatting
edit 2: added link to subreddit interest form
Comment by kerovon at 25/09/2023 at 18:07 UTC
449 upvotes, 8 direct replies
There are already problems with karma farming bots that just repost comments. Giving them a method to directly earn cash from spamming subreddits seems like it will just make this problem even worse. You say that your internal tools will identify and screen them out, but from what I have seen the tools you currently use to fight that sort of spam seems very ineffective. Do you have tools just for gold that you haven't rolled out to a wider release? If so, can you make those tools more widely available to help fight all of the spam and repost bots that infest reddit?
Comment by Generic_Mod at 25/09/2023 at 17:48 UTC
456 upvotes, 8 direct replies
So you're incentivising reposting of previously popular content. Great...
Also the gold balance people had (and paid for) before it disappreared, will that be transferred to the new system? (No need to answer this, because of course it wont).
Comment by [deleted] at 25/09/2023 at 20:23 UTC
215 upvotes, 4 direct replies
Sometimes when I feel bad about decisions the company I work for makes, I head over here to read admin updates on Reddit’s decision making.
Nothing can top this place when it comes to awful decisions and even worse announcements of such decisions.
Comment by Simco_ at 25/09/2023 at 17:41 UTC
214 upvotes, 1 direct replies
Is that a $50 upvote in the preview?
Comment by shiruken at 25/09/2023 at 17:49 UTC
190 upvotes, 2 direct replies
I've now asked this several times without a satisfactory answer: What happens with copyright infringing content that gets gilded?
The Contributor Terms[1] specify that:
1: https://www.redditinc.com/policies/contributor-terms
Reddit reserves the right to clawback payments made to you or adjust or offset against any Contributor Earnings payable to you under the Program the amount of 1) any excess payments made to you for any reason by Reddit and 2) any claim, dispute, refund, or reversal request relating to your Contributions associated with a Payout paid or about to be paid by Reddit. Reddit owes you no interest on that amount and may also require you to remit that amount to us.
If a user uploads an artist's content without permission, gets gilded 10 times, and then the content is removed following a takedown request by the artist, who ends up with the Gold payments? Is the original rights-holder eligible to claim the monetary value or does Reddit just take it?
Comment by I_Me_Mine at 25/09/2023 at 18:17 UTC
125 upvotes, 3 direct replies
Can moderators exempt their subs from the Contributor Program?
Comment by Jordan117 at 25/09/2023 at 18:07 UTC
496 upvotes, 9 direct replies
I *had* over 80k coins and 18 years of premium earned from years of posts here (all OC). You erased all of it without providing anything in exchange. Now you're asking us to start contributing even more free content, starting from zero, right after demonstrating how little you valued everything that came before? Lol. Lmao, even.
If you showed any actual respect for our participation here, I might actually be interested in this program. Given recent history, I'm fine never contributing anything of value here ever again.
Comment by RedditWillBanMe4This at 25/09/2023 at 18:38 UTC*
123 upvotes, 2 direct replies
lmao fuck this
reddit banned me for this
Comment by Maoman1 at 25/09/2023 at 18:05 UTC*
203 upvotes, 3 direct replies
You are literally encouraging people to karma whore. You are unironically going to pay people for making the best repost bots. Unbelievable. As if the front page wasn't bad enough already.
EDIT: Literally minutes after this post another reddit admin posted this announcement[1] saying that reddit moderators are *explicitly forbidden* from getting *any* sort of reward for their efforts, whether monetary, goods, or even simple favors.
The message sent by these two posts combined is quite clear to me: fuck mods, praise karma farming.
Comment by _PM_ME_PANGOLINS_ at 25/09/2023 at 18:16 UTC
68 upvotes, 1 direct replies
It's difficult to understate how unbelievably stupid and easy to exploit this is, but I am also not surprised in the slightest.
Comment by Forestl at 25/09/2023 at 17:57 UTC*
123 upvotes, 9 direct replies
We post for fun, not because it'll make money. Bringing in that incentive is just gonna bring in the worst of karma farmers. Look at how bad most twitter blue users are now that they know they can try to make money off of engagement. Why the fuck are you trying to copy that?
Comment by Princess_Of_Thieves at 25/09/2023 at 18:43 UTC
65 upvotes, 1 direct replies
Oh boy, gold is back.
Oh great, now it's shit. Can't wait for all the spammers to start monetising other people's stuff.
Comment by shiruken at 25/09/2023 at 18:59 UTC
29 upvotes, 0 direct replies
It appears[1] that the `/gilded` listings on subreddits and user profiles have all been removed (e.g. science/gilded[2] and spez/gilded[3]). Are there plans to reintroduce this feature?
1: https://www.reddit.com/r/reddit/comments/16ryhv9/comment/k264m23/
2: https://web.archive.org/web/20230629035948/https://old.reddit.com/r/science/gilded/
3: https://web.archive.org/web/20230724225036/https://old.reddit.com/user/spez/gilded
Comment by benjaminck at 25/09/2023 at 19:34 UTC
29 upvotes, 0 direct replies
This is what you are wasting your time on?
Comment by RimfireFoShizzle at 25/09/2023 at 18:44 UTC
82 upvotes, 1 direct replies
Fuck u/spez and this shite attempt to monetize posts
Comment by ExcitingishUsername at 25/09/2023 at 18:58 UTC
52 upvotes, 2 direct replies
Will the fact that an account is monetized via the Contributor Program be visible to moderation bots? This is absolutely something we will need to keep an eye on to monitor for abuse, and there needs to be an account flag visible to the API for us to be able to do so.
Can you confirm whether or not that will be the case?
Comment by [deleted] at 25/09/2023 at 19:08 UTC
53 upvotes, 3 direct replies
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Comment by IamAlso_u_grahvity at 25/09/2023 at 19:15 UTC
25 upvotes, 3 direct replies
Are Paid Contributors going to be receiving 1099 forms every year at tax time or quarterly?
Comment by reaper527 at 25/09/2023 at 17:45 UTC
101 upvotes, 2 direct replies
so from articles on the topic[1], this sounds like another scam to take money from people while giving nothing (like when you stole everyone's coins earlier in the month)
1: https://www.theverge.com/2023/9/25/23887226/reddit-gold-system-contributor-program
FTA:
In the standard “contributor” tier, you’ll get 90 cents for every gold you earn. But to be able to cash out, you’ll need to have earned a minimum of 10 gold and received between 100 and 4,999 karma over a 12-month period.
so what happens to those people who don't meet the cashout threshold after 12 months? given how scummy reddit has been, the answer seems pretty obvious.
Comment by ddub1 at 25/09/2023 at 19:33 UTC
20 upvotes, 1 direct replies
Do mental health/peer support communities fall under trauma support? This change is a potentially a huge issue in our spaces.
Comment by enfrozt at 25/09/2023 at 20:39 UTC
21 upvotes, 1 direct replies
This is going to make moderating extremely difficult with all the flood of bots, and even just real people reposting / karma farming.
The communities I moderate already get an excessive amount of bots posting scams/crypto/tshirt scams.
What is changing that is going to stop the bots that hasn't been implemented before this?
Comment by The_King_of_Okay at 25/09/2023 at 22:00 UTC
21 upvotes, 2 direct replies
I messaged reddit support about this but I keep getting ignored so I'll ask here, can I please get a refund for the coins I bought? It's crazy that you guys think it's okay to sell something and then just take it away without refunding.
Comment by toastt_ghost at 25/09/2023 at 20:54 UTC
18 upvotes, 2 direct replies
rather people just send me money through a service like buymeacoffee
Comment by Kvothealar at 25/09/2023 at 23:33 UTC
20 upvotes, 3 direct replies
I had over 13 years of premium, and you wiped out the 700coins/mo I would have gotten from it. At 1,800 coins per $6.00USD, that means I lost over $350.00USD in value of my premium.
How about converting those 13 years of 700 coins per month into premium for users that are losing out? Cash them out at 1800 coins worth per month.
Realistically this would only cost you a couple dollars of ad revenue.
