335 upvotes, 7 direct replies (showing 7)
Right?
I'm so tired of people's recklessly optimistic cries of "he can't do that because it's illegal"
Like ***laws*** have ever stopped this man from doing literally anything.
Comment by Boo_R4dley at 16/08/2020 at 15:53 UTC
14 upvotes, 2 direct replies
The house and senate are sworn in Jan 3rd. Only 4 seats in the senate need to switch for a democratic majority and there are 13 Republican candidates considered vulnerable. The entire House is up this year, but Democrats are expected to hold it by a considerable margin.
There is a very good chance that the legislative branch will be solidly in the Democratic majority and at that point if the presidential election isn’t clearly called then the Speaker of the House will be sworn in as president on Jan 21st.
Comment by [deleted] at 16/08/2020 at 17:08 UTC
6 upvotes, 0 direct replies
Exactly. I can not believe how many people I see on this sub everyday that think Justice will magically kick Trump out of the White House. He will just say the election was cheated by the democrats and stay in power. Who will stop him? He literally raped a 13-year old girl and is still in office.
Comment by [deleted] at 16/08/2020 at 15:52 UTC
14 upvotes, 1 direct replies
laws haven't stopped many politicians from doing many things, and Trump is the most transparent about his willingness to skirt laws, so I'm very surprised how many people still think shouting "uh uh uh, the constitution says you can't do that mr Trump" will make any difference.
Comment by [deleted] at 16/08/2020 at 14:49 UTC
30 upvotes, 1 direct replies
There's a difference between "he has done something illegal and we can't correct it because he's president/the senate is protecting him" and "he's not president anymore and is a bum squatting in the white house". Unless you think the military will back him over the constitution and the supreme court (and no, I don't think they will do that) this is a pretty paranoid position.
The bigger concern is that he is going to do everything he can to undermine the credibility of the election... which he started doing at least a year ago.
Comment by thatnameagain at 16/08/2020 at 16:44 UTC
3 upvotes, 2 direct replies
Keep in mind that trump staying in office illegally requires the military to agree to go along with the illegal coup and actively protect him. This isn’t a case where Trump himself can just ignore the law, other people who aren’t Republican ideologies need to actively agree with him.
Comment by WhatAHeavyLifeWeLive at 16/08/2020 at 14:59 UTC
0 upvotes, 2 direct replies
Then what’s your point/goal here? That we should give up?
Comment by [deleted] at 16/08/2020 at 18:05 UTC
-1 upvotes, 1 direct replies
This is different. He can stay in the white house all he wants. He legally isn't president the moment Biden is sworn in. He can give orders all he wants, no one will listen and anyone who does would be committing treason.
There is no ambiguity here, like there would be in other countries. The attempt to stay in office after his term expires would start a civil war immediately. Assuming Trump has the support to make that a reality, which he doesn't.