Comment by [deleted] on 10/10/2018 at 17:12 UTC*

364 upvotes, 13 direct replies (showing 13)

View submission: Hillary Clinton: You 'cannot be civil' with Republicans, Democrats need to be 'tougher'

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Comment by espo619 at 10/10/2018 at 17:34 UTC

168 upvotes, 5 direct replies

How do you be civil with someone who actively denies the existence of a well-proven and already-occurring planetary environmental catastrophe?

Comment by fillinthe___ at 10/10/2018 at 18:09 UTC

24 upvotes, 1 direct replies

It starts with using Republicans' own words against them at every opportunity. That's not the Democrats attacking Republicans. It's the Republicans exposing themselves as opportunists.

It **should** have started with Beto plastering Trump tweets against Ted Cruz all over the state. I'm tired of this "I won't stoop to that level" garbage.

Comment by redditmodsRrussians at 10/10/2018 at 22:37 UTC

9 upvotes, 0 direct replies

If you could debate the republicans out of their positions, it would be akin to somehow debating the Nazis out of their shitshow. Today, republicans = Nazis.....

Comment by [deleted] at 10/10/2018 at 18:00 UTC

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There is only one flavor of "civility"[1] Nazis deserve...

1: https://tenor.com/view/rick-and-morty-nazi-beatdown-gif-9497742

Comment by lucidparadox at 10/10/2018 at 22:08 UTC

8 upvotes, 1 direct replies

You dont. Taking the high road is no longer an option. We vote in November and see what happens. Either way, shit will go down soon. Get prepared.

Comment by freemike at 10/10/2018 at 22:41 UTC

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Simply put. Conservatives are the enemy.

Comment by drysart at 11/10/2018 at 03:33 UTC

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A no-compromise pledge of their own is what they should do at a minimum.

A hundred times this. I'm sick and tired of seeing opportunities lost by compromising with Republicans who aren't even negotiating in good faith. The ACA was critically injured by giving into their concessions and amendments in a misguided attempt to try to gain their buy-in, and in the end they *still* treated it like it was the worst thing to ever happen to America.

They had their chance to play ball fairly. When Democrats get into the majority, **no more compromises**. America does not negotiate with terrorists.

Comment by [deleted] at 10/10/2018 at 17:45 UTC

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Comment by Jimhead89 at 11/10/2018 at 10:09 UTC

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No, structural voting rights (ranked choice, automatic voter registration, repealing apportionment act of 1911) would help to increase democracy and the party which name is closest to that word and therefore should be the things to start with when in majority power. Then a green new deal and hunting down the right wing global criminal enterprise.

What youre suggesting is what should be attempted if they gain just the house.

Comment by [deleted] at 10/10/2018 at 23:43 UTC

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Clinton is right.

Maybe. Her credibility as a messenger of winning political strategy is fucking dogshit, though.

Comment by Sly_Wood at 10/10/2018 at 17:41 UTC

-20 upvotes, 1 direct replies

How do you talk about getting tough when you yourself are one of the main reasons your entire party was decimated. Talk is cheap. Hindsight and all. Hillary should have ravaged trump but her best moment was a heavily scripted, you called this pageant winner fat and guess who she’s going to vote for? She should have absolutely mercilessly destroyed trump after access Hollywood but her best was nothing even remotely memorable. I only remember her calling him a puppet. What else? This is why we lost and now she claims she knows the answer.

Comment by migomick at 10/10/2018 at 18:08 UTC

-10 upvotes, 1 direct replies

Serious question as a devils advocate - do you think the democrats are doing/have done anything similar to the points you've listed?

Comment by [deleted] at 10/10/2018 at 17:29 UTC

-52 upvotes, 2 direct replies

- Isn't the democrats primary goal to see the republicans lose?

- ive yet to see anyone bring a charge, but i dont know anyone personally who would be ok with an elected official pardoning themselves, this a real wild hypothetical. you guys need to get something on the table charges wise.

- the same way we stay civil with people that call us evil, mentally deranged, rioters, deploables, and nazis.

- the same way that you are civil with people that dont https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2018/05/21/trump-isnt-the-only-one-who-calls-opponents-animals-democrats-and-republicans-do-it-to-each-other/?noredirect=on&utm%5C_term=.7a69b4341c39[1][2] however the NPC meme is fucking hilarious

- clinton is wrong, we dont need to be uncivil with each other, we dont need to resort to violence, or yelling at people while they are eating dinner. escalation of these type of behaviors goes to a place I would hope none of us want to go.

1: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2018/05/21/trump-isnt-the-only-one-who-calls-opponents-animals-democrats-and-republicans-do-it-to-each-other/?noredirect=on&utm%5C_term=.7a69b4341c39

2: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2018/05/21/trump-isnt-the-only-one-who-calls-opponents-animals-democrats-and-republicans-do-it-to-each-other/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.7a69b4341c39

here is what you need to do

win elections

thats how it works in our constitutional republic. getting outside that norm is steps towards war, and while i'd imagine most of us are ready and willing to fight if we were forced to, i would hope that we wouldnt choose to go that way.