Comment by [deleted] on 26/01/2020 at 14:22 UTC

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View submission: Reductio: if we consider merely affecting the environment to be morally wrong, we face the conclusion that our existence is evil. This indicates we have made a mistake...

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The biggest part of the disconnect on the political spectrum is that in the process for making the appeal for change to combat climate control, the left almost always incidentally increases government overreach. This naturally and automatically makes them the enemy to classical liberal and neoconservative political worldviews.

The classic mistake of leftist movements is to assume that when something needs to be done on a massive scale, the vector for action should always be the government. Government action can start a process and encourage popular action but only popular action will actually achieve the goals inherent in mitigating the worst damage of climate change.

And by making an enemy of half the nation, left-wing political activists encourage those individuals to dig in their heels and deny harder, which only makes popular action all the more difficult.

If left-wing activists spent less time condemning those who aren't on their level yet, and more time leading by example, we may have already solved the worst of the climate change issues by now.

I'm personally of the opinion that climate change has happened, is happening, and will continue to happen, with or without us, and that more study is needed to separate normal climate fluctuations from the anthropogenic (man made) element. I see a disturbing amount of thought that any climate fluctuation at all is automatically anthropogenic and that gives humanity entirely too much credit IMHO. We are not as powerful as we think we are.

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Comment by falkorfalkor at 26/01/2020 at 14:59 UTC

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Most of your response shows obvious bias from my pov. Your claims seem rooted in your own personal experience.

I don't disagree about some of your points being factors to some degree and I especially agree with this

And by making an enemy of half the nation, left-wing political activists encourage those individuals to dig in their heels and deny harder, which only makes popular action all the more difficult.

The world's climate scientists disagree with you on the anthrogenic element of climate change.

You are probably right that some people are a bit too quick to blame weather fluctuations on climate change but I am fairly ignorant on the specifics of this part.