Comment by monkeyborg on 24/02/2025 at 20:49 UTC

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View submission: Quantum mechanics suggests reality isn’t made of standalone objects but exists only in relations, transforming our understanding of the universe. | An interview with Carlo Rovelli on quantum mechanics, white holes and the relational universe.

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But still between objects. Relationships are not first-order metaphysical phenomena; they are epiphenomenal upon objects. Speaking of relationships prior to objects is incoherent.

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Comment by burnthatburner1 at 24/02/2025 at 20:51 UTC

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It’s not.  Undefined objects are used in a foundational sense in mathematics.

Comment by IntransigentErudite at 26/02/2025 at 19:01 UTC

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Objects are epiphenomenal upon subjectivities you mean.

What you are calling an object is a construction picked out from the background of other "objects". An object is nothing but relationships imputed by awareness. In the end there is not two. This is what the paper is pointing at, an object is simply the privileged relationships we choose, there are absences that are equally important to creating said "object". In the end the false dichotomy between subject and object is nullified by the idea of relationship.