created by ResearchDirector on 02/02/2025 at 21:45 UTC
459 upvotes, 46 top-level comments (showing 25)
Comment by Automatic_Comb_5632 at 02/02/2025 at 22:01 UTC
238 upvotes, 1 direct replies
It'll be interesting to see how this statement ages.
Comment by Avocadoo_Tomatoo at 02/02/2025 at 22:14 UTC
174 upvotes, 3 direct replies
Employment lawyer - he referred them to an employment lawyer.
Comment by suhth2 at 02/02/2025 at 22:51 UTC
84 upvotes, 3 direct replies
For those who missed it, Tim Jago saying "these are people who want to be victims, they're searching for victimhood status".
https://x.com/StrayDogNZ/status/1825779700540780578?t=0-8Iat_5i8dHUly7srZMJQ&s=19
Comment by Hubris2 at 02/02/2025 at 22:05 UTC
243 upvotes, 1 direct replies
ACT very much wanted to try direct survivors to an avenue that they controlled, that wouldn't result in charges - plus an avenue that ensured they were the first who had all the detail about the allegations so they could figure out the best way to spin the situation publicly.
They were in no way interested in doing right by the abuse survivors. This was self-preservation.
Comment by Careful-Calendar8922 at 02/02/2025 at 22:03 UTC
119 upvotes, 1 direct replies
Something something law and order something something tough in crime something something.
Comment by helbnd at 02/02/2025 at 21:53 UTC*
354 upvotes, 5 direct replies
Of course they are. The party for paedophiles and abusers stands by its tactics to protect known sexual predator Tim Jago.
The same party that covered up sexual abuses going on in Young ACT.
The same party whose leader sends auto deleting messages to teenagers.
ACT stands for predators.
Edit: removed hyperbole
Comment by BeardedCockwomble at 02/02/2025 at 22:16 UTC*
92 upvotes, 1 direct replies
Did they follow the law in dealing with those allegations?
Did they discourage young people from approaching Police?
And can the media pick up on the serious allegations that Eli Gammeter has made? Considering she's also a survivor of sexual assault within the ACT Party, her voice really should carry some weight.
Comment by fraser_mu at 02/02/2025 at 22:50 UTC
21 upvotes, 0 direct replies
‘“I’m very confident that facing a very difficult situation, which, as it turns out, turned on some tragic circumstances, we did everything that we could that an organisation in our position faced.” David seymour
Im pretty confident that if i was leading any sort of company, org or political party and was told of such offensive criminality, my first response would be 1) recommend the person talks to the police, 2) talk to the police myself.
Getting a complainant to talk to the lawyer whos on the payroll is EXACTLY what dodgy churches facing sexual criminal complaints have done. Multiple times through recent history. Its not like this is some sort of mystery situation where ‘the wrong way to handle it’ hasnt happened many times already
Comment by netkiwi12 at 02/02/2025 at 22:32 UTC
20 upvotes, 0 direct replies
Wanna to say something about bootcamps and disturbed children. I'm not gonna do that. It makes me feel sad just thinking about it.
Comment by OisforOwesome at 02/02/2025 at 22:08 UTC
52 upvotes, 0 direct replies
Don't worry gang they hired a lawyer to investigate themselves and they found ACT did nothing wrong.
Comment by potato4peace at 02/02/2025 at 21:59 UTC
102 upvotes, 1 direct replies
ACT abuses children through policy decisions as well as hiding sexual predators
Comment by recyclingismandatory at 02/02/2025 at 23:22 UTC
26 upvotes, 0 direct replies
A difficult decision? The party of law and order was put in a difficult position??
Since when is making the only moral and ethical decision open at that point in time difficult??
Aww, sorry, I forgot a minute who I was talking about. ...
Comment by InvisibleBobby at 02/02/2025 at 22:05 UTC
39 upvotes, 1 direct replies
Lets hope the abuse kills the party instead of getting it more votes like in the US
Comment by muzzawell at 02/02/2025 at 22:41 UTC
30 upvotes, 0 direct replies
Utter scum. Puts his party’s image before the victims well being. And people voted for this cunt.
Comment by [deleted] at 02/02/2025 at 22:16 UTC
21 upvotes, 1 direct replies
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Comment by That-new-reddit-user at 02/02/2025 at 23:46 UTC
24 upvotes, 0 direct replies
I’m willing to bet this is just the tip of the iceberg! This guy was asking for donations to fund his visits overseas to nations like Africa to work with youth under the guise of sports. Maybe he figured out offending in your own backyard isn’t smart. I have a gut feeling that this predator likely offended more than the two times he has been charged with.
Act cannot just simply wash its hands of this. I can only imagine what they would be saying if it was a different political party in this predicament.
Comment by JeffMcClintock at 03/02/2025 at 01:12 UTC
19 upvotes, 0 direct replies
It's a classic pedo playbook:
"No need for the police, we'll handle this in-house. Come and sit down with our ~~gaslighting-hush-money man~~ victim-advocate"
Comment by Previous_Pianist9776 at 02/02/2025 at 23:45 UTC
17 upvotes, 0 direct replies
lets all remember "tough on crime" but somehow apparently maoris in particular, and then whats worse,
"ACT will ensure tougher sentences for crime in the workplace." IN THE WORKPLACE? AS IN YOUR BOSS COMMITTING HEINOUS CRIMES? seems like David Seymour can't be consistent with policies
https://www.act.org.nz/tough%5C_on%5C_crime%5C_is%5C_the%5C_best%5C_policy%5C_for%5C_m%5C_ori[1][2]
1: https://www.act.org.nz/tough%5C_on%5C_crime%5C_is%5C_the%5C_best%5C_policy%5C_for%5C_m%5C_ori
2: https://www.act.org.nz/tough_on_crime_is_the_best_policy_for_m_ori
Comment by MurkyWay at 02/02/2025 at 22:17 UTC
40 upvotes, 2 direct replies
The Snapchat scandal deserves much more scrutiny
Comment by Amazing_Box_8032 at 03/02/2025 at 01:35 UTC
21 upvotes, 2 direct replies
Despite to David Seymour trying to conflate this with “guilt by association” that is not what is happening - people are rightly questioning how the Party and Seymour responded to the allegations.
If you go back to the press release issue when Tim Jago resigned, which we now know was coerced following the police laying charges.
He has resigned due to “other commitments” … “we thank Tim for his service”
Never thank a sex offender David!
We also know that back in 2020~21 he was investigated for financial mismanagement at a surf lifesaving club. So sex offending aside it also raises questions about Acts hiring process and where they dig these people up from.
Comment by showusyourfupa at 03/02/2025 at 05:12 UTC
5 upvotes, 0 direct replies
Old boys club cover up. Seymour should stand down.
Comment by Green-Circles at 03/02/2025 at 05:27 UTC
7 upvotes, 0 direct replies
Keep digging that hole Seymour....
Comment by HadoBoirudo at 02/02/2025 at 22:54 UTC
26 upvotes, 2 direct replies
If someone is informing me about a serious crime, my first inclination is NOT to consult a lawyer. It's to inform the Police.
Speaks volumes about Seymour's mindset.
Comment by Kushwst828 at 03/02/2025 at 02:12 UTC
11 upvotes, 0 direct replies
Average act voter: Doesn’t matter as long as those Mari’s get put in their place!
Comment by nastywillow at 03/02/2025 at 02:14 UTC*
12 upvotes, 0 direct replies
ACT must pay the political price for a child molester in its leadership.
As did The Christian Heritage Party of New Zealand.
It disbanded in 2006 after the leader Graham Capill going to jail for committing sex crimes against children.