Comment by OPINION_IS_UNPOPULAR on 04/10/2022 at 12:49 UTC

-24 upvotes, 4 direct replies (showing 4)

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Because, as they said, their experiment found that collapsing stickies leads to higher engagement.

FWIW we found the same effect by minimizing the amount of text on our stickied daily threads about a year ago.

Let's be real, many subreddit stickies are lazy rehashes of the rules. No one wants to read that, it's just wasting the most valuable real estate on the reader's screen.

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Comment by the_lamou at 04/10/2022 at 14:07 UTC

36 upvotes, 1 direct replies

Great! Except "more" isn't what most mods, and most Reddit readers I bet, want from engagement. "Better" engagement should be the benchmark, because more *bad* engagement just makes more work for mods and a shittier experience for users.

Comment by FaviFake at 04/10/2022 at 15:37 UTC

23 upvotes, 0 direct replies

Because, as they said, their experiment found that collapsing stickies leads to higher engagement.

I wanted to explain to you why this is bad for us, but u/delta_baryon did such a great job on their comment[1] that I'm just going to paste it here:

1: https://www.reddit.com/r/modnews/comments/xuvkmy/comment/iqy6cm2/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

"More engagement is not the same as good engagement. This is a classic example of how the interests of mods don't align with the admins'. I don't want more engagement at any cost. I want engagement with users who understand the rules and the culture of the community they're joining.*

People already complain that it's difficult to post on reddit because you guys have streamlined the rules into invisibility. Consequently, their first interaction with the rules is being told off by a terse moderator or a strict automod setup. I don't think that's a more streamlined experience than having to read some rules before posting.*

I really think this attitude from the admins, that moderators don't know what's best for their communities and that all engagement is good engagement, is a false economy, as it forces moderators to take an almost oppositional attitude with the users and actually hurts overall engagement in the long run."*

Comment by superfucky at 05/10/2022 at 13:23 UTC

9 upvotes, 0 direct replies

username checks out.

Let's be real, many subreddit stickies are lazy rehashes of the rules. No one wants to read that

well mods want them to read the rules, and mods throw the rules into stickies because users aren't reading them (and likely can't even find them given mobile reddit's hidden sidebar). so what is your solution to make sure users READ THE FUCKING RULES? solve that and 70% of "useless stickies" go away.

Comment by CaptainPedge at 04/10/2022 at 12:50 UTC

17 upvotes, 1 direct replies

Because, as they said, their experiment found that collapsing stickies leads to higher engagement.

I simply don't believe them.