Quick copy update to mod permissions

https://www.reddit.com/r/modnews/comments/mqu65c/quick_copy_update_to_mod_permissions/

created by lift_ticket83 on 14/04/2021 at 16:25 UTC*

252 upvotes, 31 top-level comments (showing 25)

Greetings, Mods

Yesterday we did some tidying up and made a quick copy update to the text we use within the mod permissions module in Mod Tools. This update more clearly defines what each individual mod permission entails[1], and will hopefully cut down on some confusion that we’ve seen in the past. Please note these changes are cosmetic only, and we haven’t changed how the permissions themselves function.

1: https://mods.reddithelp.com/hc/en-us/articles/360009381491-User-Management-moderators-and-permissions

https://preview.redd.it/0r5ydsu606t61.png?width=357&format=png&auto=webp&s=ccb075a44a0e6d72d10868187b179304a67cd04c

Whenever you go to change the permissions of someone on your mod team, the individual permissions will now read:

**Everything:** Full access including the ability to manage moderator access and permissions.
**Manage Users:** Approve submitters and ban users.
**Manage Chats:** Create and manage chats, set up filters and rate limits, and block domains.
**Monitor Chats:** Remove messages, remove users, and lock chats.
**Manage Settings:** Manage community settings, appearance, emojis, and rules.
**Manage Flair:** Create and manage user and post flair.
**Manage Mod Mail:** Read and respond to Mod Mail.
**Manage Posts & Comments:** Access queues, take action on content and manage collections and events.
**Manage Wiki Pages:** Create and manage wiki pages and Auto Mod*

Are there any other similar updates or tidying up we could do to make the Mod Tools section of the site more clear and easily understandable? Let us know in the comments below and we’ll look into making those improvements.

Comments

Comment by FlapSnapple at 14/04/2021 at 16:34 UTC

53 upvotes, 3 direct replies

Please fix the CSS of /about/moderators page in old reddit. This change now has text overflowing and overlapping UI elements instead of breaking to a new line where appropriate.

https://i.imgur.com/aV5QB5s.png

Comment by Xenc at 14/04/2021 at 16:30 UTC

33 upvotes, 1 direct replies

These are useful clarifications.

Comment by mokiboki at 14/04/2021 at 17:22 UTC

15 upvotes, 1 direct replies

This is great. I've noticed that most of the screenshots posted by admins recently have been on mobile - does this mean that full mod tools for mobile are coming in the future?

Comment by [deleted] at 14/04/2021 at 21:57 UTC

11 upvotes, 0 direct replies

THANK FUCKING GOD

I was so confused as to what each permission actually meant, this so so awesome!

Comment by dequeued at 14/04/2021 at 17:20 UTC*

19 upvotes, 1 direct replies

Adding "Manage" in front of every permission doesn't make this better. It's makes the listing much harder to read by making each permission much longer. I can see the value in adding a help dialog for new moderators (edit: and I like the revised tool tips), but it seems like this is striking a poor balance between "explanation" and "usage".

And then there's this jumbled mess which makes it seem like this was rushed out the door:

https://imgur.com/a/YTjE8Wr

P.S. AutoModerator permissions (both read and write) should be tied to configuration instead of wiki (or tied to configuration in addition to wiki).

Comment by eritbh at 14/04/2021 at 16:30 UTC

9 upvotes, 1 direct replies

Typo in your post: Pretty sure "Manage Wiki Pages" doesn't give access to modqueue :V

Comment by irckeyboardwarrior at 14/04/2021 at 16:41 UTC

8 upvotes, 2 direct replies

I don't entirely understand the "Manage Chats" and "Monitor Chats" permissions.

Comment by BuckRowdy at 14/04/2021 at 17:19 UTC

7 upvotes, 1 direct replies

What made you guys choose Everything instead of something like All? When you're referring to them as permissions, 'all permissions' sounds more natural than even 'every permission'.

Comment by gotforced at 14/04/2021 at 16:31 UTC

13 upvotes, 2 direct replies

Welp, I noticed you accidentally have the wrong description for " **Manage Wiki Pages**" but what I actually wanted to say is: I'm not fond of the changes, I feel like it makes the Moderators page harder to look through because every permission is prefaced by "Manage". Imo there isn't a need for this.

Comment by Dhanish04 at 14/04/2021 at 16:51 UTC

5 upvotes, 0 direct replies

Finally! Thanks for this ~~update~~ marvelous Update

Comment by [deleted] at 14/04/2021 at 16:29 UTC

10 upvotes, 2 direct replies

Is this going to change in the API or json as well?

Comment by MyNameIsUrMom at 14/04/2021 at 17:49 UTC

4 upvotes, 0 direct replies

old.reddit permissions are even more of an eyesore now, welp

still think it's a good change though

Comment by clemenslucas at 14/04/2021 at 22:33 UTC

5 upvotes, 0 direct replies

The whole thing about chats is a little confusing.

Subreddit Chatrooms don't exist anymore and the mods don't moderate the chats that "start chatting" initiates - the only thing left are Chat Posts, and I don't see them very often.

I think one setting for "everything Chat" should suffice (although unless I'm missing something Chatposts should just be a part of the "Posts and Comments" permission)

Comment by ladfrombrad at 14/04/2021 at 16:51 UTC

3 upvotes, 1 direct replies

View Only: Can view traffic stats and the mod log.

Just to clarify since that isn't in your screenshot - Are mods with No Permissions still able to see the modlogs and traffic stats?

If so, are you guys going to change that ever since there's no reason a bot with Flair perms needs to read the modlogs? Thanks.

Comment by the_pwd_is_murder at 14/04/2021 at 22:27 UTC

2 upvotes, 0 direct replies

Could you please add "white-space: pre-wrap;" to the permission-summary class for old reddit?

Comment by I_SHIT_A_BRICK at 15/04/2021 at 01:33 UTC

2 upvotes, 0 direct replies

Thanks guys!

The only thing I’d personally change is the word rank under full permissions. I believe “tenure” fits better. Full permissions is more of the rank status but if someone with more tenure has less permissions than you, they’re still a higher “rank” under the current wording.

Semantics, I know.

Comment by SolariaHues at 15/04/2021 at 13:35 UTC

2 upvotes, 0 direct replies

Are there any other similar updates or tidying up we could do to make the Mod Tools section of the site more clear and easily understandable?

These don't fit that description, but I've seen a couple of issues vexing mods recently..

When editing wiki pages via mod tools the pages list area has shrunk[1], which makes it harder to access the pages even though there is space for the list area to be bigger.

1: https://new.reddit.com/r/ModSupport/comments/m7ty4w/for_whatever_reason_reddit_smashes_multiple/

There also seems to be something going on with the button widgets[2] and rules/ban reasons[3].

2: https://new.reddit.com/r/ModSupport/comments/mqz87y/why_did_all_the_buttons_of_every_button_widget/

3: https://new.reddit.com/r/ModSupport/comments/mplcxj/subreddit_rules_updated_and_now_ban_reasons_in/

Comment by [deleted] at 14/04/2021 at 16:41 UTC*

2 upvotes, 1 direct replies

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Comment by LindyNet at 14/04/2021 at 16:33 UTC

2 upvotes, 1 direct replies

The mods page is a bit harder to read[1], could we get that updated?

1: https://i.imgur.com/L35nPDO.png

Comment by spaghetticatt at 14/04/2021 at 21:25 UTC