349 upvotes, 14 direct replies (showing 14)
View submission: Karma experiment
So let me get this straight. The mods, the people who do 90% of the work keeping this site in order, for free, have been clamoring for months about how the awards system needs a MAJOR overhaul because it's so easy to abuse in order to send hateful messages to people, and your response is 'My stars, we should encourage *more* abuse with awards! Let's make it even *easier* for people to abuse the awards system!'
Is that how this is supposed to sound? Because that's how it sounds. I'm not trying to be angry, here, I'm legitimately confused because it feels like we, the users, told you specifically to avoid doing this sort of thing, and y'all immediately turned around and doubled down on it.
How does that make any sense?
Comment by dontgive_afuck at 06/07/2020 at 19:38 UTC
44 upvotes, 2 direct replies
Seriously. I feel like this is like the exact *opposite* of what they should be doing.
At least this is just an "experiment", I guess.
Comment by chiefrebelangel_ at 06/07/2020 at 19:31 UTC
65 upvotes, 0 direct replies
MOOOOOONEY
Comment by loqi0238 at 06/07/2020 at 19:08 UTC
90 upvotes, 2 direct replies
More awards going out means more money coming in.
Comment by kenman at 06/07/2020 at 19:36 UTC
19 upvotes, 1 direct replies
I don't know about you, I'm just glad they're innovating with these world-changing features instead of actually addressing mod concerns that have been known for a very long time. /s
Comment by [deleted] at 06/07/2020 at 23:29 UTC
6 upvotes, 0 direct replies
fucking yes
spending money to get karma sounds fucking ridiculous.
Comment by [deleted] at 06/07/2020 at 21:33 UTC
9 upvotes, 2 direct replies
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Comment by Watchful1 at 06/07/2020 at 19:23 UTC
3 upvotes, 0 direct replies
I get your point, but I don't think that the correct answer to people abusing the award system is to get rid of it entirely. If someone abuses something, they should be reported and banned, which is what reddit added to address this.
Reddit is a private company and hasn't said anything about how much money they make any time recently, but I would bet they are still in the red. I would much rather an award system like this than them continuing to increase the number of ads you see. If there are occasional abuse issues it's better to address them directly than to throw out the whole system.
Comment by venkman01 at 06/07/2020 at 19:34 UTC*
-3 upvotes, 10 direct replies
Hey, Cedar - thanks for taking the time to write this out, I recognize your frustration here. One thing I want to note is this experiment is something that we’ve been sitting on for a little while given all the bigger issues recently. We decided to start the test today as it’s meant to be a fairly long running experiment, so we wanted to get it out there in order to collect data and feedback.
In the meantime, we’ve also been hard at work creating new ways to mitigate abuse. A few things we’re working on include the ability for users to block specific people from awarding them, the ability for mods to hide awards from mobile (already available on desktop), a way for users and mods to flag specific awards that are being used in an abusive manner, and finally… a way for moderators to have more control over disabling some awards that are used in their communities.
~~We should have more details on all of these soon, we're checking in with our engineering team right now and will update this comment later today with a more specific timeline.~~
Comment by Nethervex at 07/07/2020 at 05:03 UTC
1 upvotes, 0 direct replies
I'm legitimately confused because it feels like we, the users, told you specifically to avoid doing this sort of thing
Here let me solve all that confusion for you.
They dont fucking care about what the users think. As soon as you realize this, everything they do makes sense.
Comment by Yay295 at 07/07/2020 at 15:01 UTC
1 upvotes, 0 direct replies
Let's make it even *easier* for people to abuse the awards system!
How does this change make it easier to abuse the awards system?
Comment by brygphilomena at 07/07/2020 at 16:03 UTC
1 upvotes, 0 direct replies
Screw it. Remove awards completely.
Comment by pure_nitro at 07/07/2020 at 17:59 UTC
1 upvotes, 0 direct replies
Easily explained with: They couldn't care less about mods, they want more money.
Comment by Kinmuan at 07/07/2020 at 02:24 UTC
1 upvotes, 0 direct replies
Fuckin A Cotton.
Fuckin A.
Comment by ilostmyoldaccount at 07/07/2020 at 10:05 UTC
1 upvotes, 0 direct replies
Seconded, I don't see this being a wise move. It'll do more damage than good. Just for a few bucks more. Effectively being able to buy karma? Don't.