https://www.reddit.com/r/modnews/comments/6auyq9/reddit_is_procss/
created by spez on 13/05/2017 at 00:11 UTC
9102 upvotes, 65 top-level comments (showing 25)
Hi Mods,
I wanted to follow up on the CSS and redesign post[1] from a few weeks back and provide some more information as well as clarify some questions that have emerged.
1: https://www.reddit.com/r/modnews/comments/66q4is/the_web_redesign_css_and_mod_tools/
Based on your feedback, we will allow you to continue to use CSS on top of the new structured styles. This will be the last part of the customization tool we build as we want to make sure the structured options we are offering are rock solid. Also, please keep in mind that if you do choose to use the advanced option, we will no longer be treading as carefully as we have done in the past about breaking styles applied through CSS^1.
To give you a sense of our approach, we’re starting with a handful of highly-customized communities (e.g. r/overwatch and r/gameofthrones) and seeing how close we can get to their existing appearance using the new system. Logos, images, colors, spoilers, menus, flairs (all kinds), and lots more will be supported. I know you’d like to see a list of everything, but we think the best approach will be to show instead of tell, which we’re racing to as quickly as possible.
The widget system I mentioned in the last post isn’t directly related. Many communities have added complex functionality over the years (calendars, scoreboards, etc). A widget system will elevate these features to first-class status on Reddit, with the aim of making them both more powerful and reuseable. Yes, we’re evaluating how we would accept user-created widgets. We intend for widgets to be able to be updated via the API, so you’ll still be able to create dynamically updating content in your subreddit sidebar.
This change, and the redesign in general, is going to happen slowly. We will will not be abruptly cutting everyone over to the new site at once. We know it won’t be perfect at first (unlike the current site), and plan to include plenty of time to solicit feedback and make iterations. Sharing our plans for subreddit customization this far advance with you is part of this process.
We’ll start with a small alpha group and create a subreddit to solicit feedback. As we continue to add features, we’ll expand the testing group to an opt-in beta. If you’d like to participate in the alpha please add a reply to this comment[2]. Please note, signing up does not guarantee a spot in the alpha. We want to be able to be responsive to the alpha testers, and keeping the initial group small has proved to be effective in the past.
2: https://www.reddit.com/r/modnews/comments/6auyq9/reddit_is_procss/dhhmebb/
I’d like thank everyone who has provided feedback on this topic. There have been some very constructive[3] threads[4]. I’d also like to take a moment to appreciate how civil the feedback has been. This is a topic many of you feel passionate about. Thank you for keeping things constructive.
4: https://www.reddit.com/r/ModSupport/comments/66rdiy/crowdsourcing_new_subreddit_widgets/
Cool?
Cool.
^1 No snark allowed.
Comment by iam666 at 13/05/2017 at 03:31 UTC
327 upvotes, 6 direct replies
/u/spez , what about /r/ooer ? Will it be negatively affected by the changes?
Comment by [deleted] at 13/05/2017 at 00:37 UTC
334 upvotes, 1 direct replies
I think this is great, and I think "you can have css in exchange for us breaking it more often" is the fairest compromise I could really ask for.
Thanks mates
Comment by [deleted] at 13/05/2017 at 00:27 UTC
609 upvotes, 1 direct replies
If we opt-in to the alpha, can we pull out if the alpha fucks things up too much?
Comment by ZadocPaet at 13/05/2017 at 00:15 UTC
158 upvotes, 3 direct replies
We did it, reddit!?
Comment by Isentrope at 13/05/2017 at 00:12 UTC
441 upvotes, 4 direct replies
Spez do you like onions.
Comment by cool_creeper500 at 13/05/2017 at 00:16 UTC
1549 upvotes, 6 direct replies
Thanks for listening and caring spez, quick question, what led to the ~~dumb~~ idea of removing CSS?
Comment by frahm9 at 13/05/2017 at 00:30 UTC
243 upvotes, 1 direct replies
Thank you for listening guys. If I pick CSS, will I be able to customize mobile?
Comment by geltoid at 13/05/2017 at 01:29 UTC
125 upvotes, 1 direct replies
Thank you so much for really listening to the community and really showing that you care to make Reddit a better place.
I would have never even gone near CSS if it wasn't for Reddit's ability for users to customize their experience. I spent a long time learning about it - from experimentation, to asking the wonderful Reddit community, to scouring the net - in order to help create a place truly unique to my little corner of the internet.
What became of that is /r/starwarsspeculation. Sure, it's not perfect, and I'm sure there's a ton of things an expert coder could nitpick about, but it's an accomplishment that I'm glad I was able to acheive.
You admins made the *best possible choice* by offering a way for the community of Reddit to integrate with the changes that you want to make here. By working together, you will only make this great website only greater.
Thanks again!
Comment by powerlanguage at 13/05/2017 at 00:11 UTC
1 upvotes, 40 direct replies
Please reply to this comment with your subreddit name if you're interested in it being included in the alpha.
Comment by TotesMessenger at 13/05/2017 at 00:16 UTC*
208 upvotes, 6 direct replies
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2: /message/compose?to=/r/TotesMessenger
Comment by [deleted] at 13/05/2017 at 00:12 UTC*
68 upvotes, 2 direct replies
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Comment by reseph at 13/05/2017 at 00:27 UTC
69 upvotes, 0 direct replies
I have no beef with a desktop redesign, so I forward to the future.
Comment by carpy22 at 13/05/2017 at 00:20 UTC
103 upvotes, 1 direct replies
So /r/CFB can keep it's CSS and flair system as-is?
Comment by [deleted] at 13/05/2017 at 01:01 UTC
57 upvotes, 2 direct replies
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Comment by Drunken_Economist at 13/05/2017 at 00:34 UTC
216 upvotes, 4 direct replies
spez wat about srs
Comment by [deleted] at 13/05/2017 at 00:46 UTC
22 upvotes, 1 direct replies
I think the best part about having CSS in this new platform is it will show you what the users/mods think needs a focus on. Just how all the crazy css hacks now are inspiring redesign, the continued crazy css hacks will help show things that need to be made
Comment by calexil at 13/05/2017 at 01:48 UTC
35 upvotes, 1 direct replies
/u/spez
on behalf of everyone at /r/procss and our massive, list of supporters[1], I would just like to say.. Thank you for listening.
1: https://www.reddit.com/r/ProCSS/wiki/supporters
-cal
Comment by aalp234 at 13/05/2017 at 00:15 UTC
17 upvotes, 0 direct replies
Thanks for listening to the community Spez, this is a very positive response for all of us mods.
Comment by CursedBlackCat at 13/05/2017 at 00:41 UTC
10 upvotes, 0 direct replies
Kudos to the admins for going so far as to putting the pro CSS logo on this subreddit.
Comment by ZadocPaet at 13/05/2017 at 00:34 UTC*
18 upvotes, 2 direct replies
One more question about subs that want to use CSS and widgets. Several of my subs want to sign up for the alpha; will be be able to use widgets AND CSS at the same time?
Thanks!
Edit: One more question. Will users be able to disable widget styles in their preferences page like they can now for CSS? At /r/procss, that was the number one reason we saw for people not liking CSS.
Comment by The_Asian_Hamster at 13/05/2017 at 01:27 UTC
9 upvotes, 1 direct replies
I just wanna say gg for listening admins
Comment by Zerak-Tul at 13/05/2017 at 03:01 UTC
7 upvotes, 0 direct replies
Good job not *Digg*-ing yourself into an early grave.
Comment by SaberMarie at 13/05/2017 at 00:26 UTC
8 upvotes, 0 direct replies
Thank goodness. I am quite relieved at the news.
Comment by [deleted] at 13/05/2017 at 00:35 UTC
8 upvotes, 0 direct replies
This was a surprise on my front page.
Thank you for listening to the community!
Comment by fireork12 at 13/05/2017 at 00:38 UTC
6 upvotes, 1 direct replies
So is it essentially a keep CSS if you want, but the second option is there if you want?