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View submission: Accessibility Updates to Mod Tools: Part 1
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Comment by redalastor at 24/06/2023 at 03:17 UTC*
51 upvotes, 1 direct replies
I don't understand what the issue is.
Imagine that reddit was providing water. And it had a history of not providing clean water but it said it would improve. But they wouldn’t commit to a definition of clean water. They would claim that they had an external audit but wouldn’t share how it was conducted or the conclusion.
People would rightly ask what pollutants we can find in their water, how many parts per million, and how do we ensure it.
If they only commited to vague improvements, would you drink that water?
Accessibility is not wishy-washy. It’s based on *standards*. Providers like reddit must conform to those standards so that accessibility tools may make sense of them and translate the content to a reprensentation their users may understand.
Comment by GrumpyOldDan at 24/06/2023 at 00:51 UTC*
57 upvotes, 1 direct replies
I agree that things are being addressed, and that is a good thing.
But considering how long this has been an issue I am keen for Reddit to commit to something we can actually measure it against rather than a vague statement of "improvements" - it's all too easy to declare even the smallest change to be an improvement yet it can fall far short of being accessible to people who need it.
I'm not saying it has to be immediate, getting an app like Reddit to WCAG 2.1 AA standard may take over a year. But what I'm asking is for Reddit to commit to something measurable with even a rough timeline so we can hold them to account against something.
"improvements" are so vague that it's really not something I can feel confident about - and I'm not someone who has been jumping in majorly on the protests across the site but definitely familiar with vague promises both on Reddit and with other sites.
Comment by ClockOfTheLongNow at 24/06/2023 at 19:19 UTC
7 upvotes, 1 direct replies
I don't understand what the issue is. I thought people wanted them to address accessibility, here they are doing it,
At this point, if reddit says something, people want proof of it. They've been gaslighting people for months on the API and app situations.
There's zero reason for anyone to trust that they're addressing accessibility given the call with mods of /r/blind, the transcribers of reddit debacle, and the current state of the app. They're arguably in violation of the ADA *now*, and "we're working on it" isn't good enough a week before the API changes.