Comment by Karmanacht on 24/05/2023 at 18:43 UTC

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It sounds like you're saying that you think we shouldn't even try. I think that's a defeatist mentality.

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Comment by Jasong222 at 24/05/2023 at 22:11 UTC

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I wouldn't say that, no. I would say you have to take in to consideration human behavior and possibly adapt your expectations.

There's a park in my area that has a paved path. As you walk in, the path goes right a bit, then turns left under an arch. But people don't use the path, they walk directly, like along the hypotenuse, from from spot to the other. The grass is worn down to dirt along this area. The park put up signs, 'please stay on the path'. People didn't follow the signs. They put up fencing. People walked over it. They had parks staff come by. But the guy can't be there 24/7. So now, the park created a small path along that route. They understood that 'humans will be human', and they adapted.

Another grandiose example is prohibition.

Are those examples of a defeatist mentality? I guess they are, depending on how you look at it.

The point being is that, sometimes, try as you might, there are factors which are beyond your control which put you in a position where probably it's easier to adapt than it is to force your way. Or at least, you could say, the cost is too great.

I'm not saying don't try. But at the same time, I think between constant inflows of new users, the sheer number of subs that a user may post on, simple mistakes of confusing one sub for another, or getting something mixed up, and the human nature factor I mentioned above of.... desensitization to rules, signage etc. being thrown at you, that... it might not be a solvable problem.

edit: Not even to get into those situations where mods will ban people for something that *isn't even on the rule list*