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How does making things more expensive for Americans hurt Columbia? Once the prices are increased, they aren’t going to drop when the tariffs are removed, the corporations will just keep the profit.
My coke dealer is already raising their prices /s
Comment by Bobll7 at 26/01/2025 at 23:52 UTC
150 upvotes, 1 direct replies
Europe joining the conversation… send more coffee our way please.
Comment by LAURA_DGAF at 27/01/2025 at 01:05 UTC
110 upvotes, 6 direct replies
I’m guessing he’s counting on Colombia suffering the loss of business. If the cost of an item, we’ll say Colombian coffee, increases enough it won’t sell because fewer people can afford it. This will cost Colombia money in lost sales. The US is one of Colombia’s biggest “customers” so the 50% tariff will probably get Trump what he wants, sadly.
On the other hand, Colombia could also say “f@ck that guy, we’re gonna develop stronger ties with other countries instead”. Given how much other countries hate him too, that might be easier to accomplish than one might think.
Comment by Henshin-hero at 26/01/2025 at 23:46 UTC
21 upvotes, 0 direct replies
Right?! It stopped snowing in the south! :(
Comment by crappercreeper at 27/01/2025 at 00:52 UTC
18 upvotes, 0 direct replies
Someone should ask Trump Jr. how the prices are.
Comment by dak4f2 at 27/01/2025 at 02:45 UTC
26 upvotes, 0 direct replies
Well the leader of Colombia responded (on Twitter) with a 50% tariff on US imported goods. Their people are freaking out. Someone in the Colombia subreddit said we are being led by 2 children.
Comment by Big_Routine_8980 at 27/01/2025 at 06:09 UTC
10 upvotes, 0 direct replies
It won't hurt Columbia, that's just an excuse for Trump to hurt Americans. Have you not realized that the oligarchs have decided we are replaceable with robots and AI? Robots and AI don't need to eat, they don't need to sleep, they don't need health care, and they don't rebel.
Obviously the tech bros have found a breakthrough, and that's to replace us. They are trying to get rid of the middle class, that's their entire purpose.
Comment by manyhippofarts at 27/01/2025 at 04:48 UTC
9 upvotes, 1 direct replies
Hey bro- I live near Charleston, SC, about a two hour drive from Columbia.
I think you mean Colombia.
Also- Colombia will be hurt because fewer Americans will be buying products made in Colombia. Because the tariffs will make the products less competitive.
Comment by RobbieKangaroo at 27/01/2025 at 04:31 UTC*
2 upvotes, 0 direct replies
I bet he won’t even lower his price if he starts getting those free airplane rides back to Colombia after each shipment.
Comment by Elmundopalladio at 27/01/2025 at 08:56 UTC
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In the short term Colombian sellers won’t have a market as US consumers won’t pay the heftier price. Medium term Columbia will be pushing other markets to wean their reliance on the US. It will be relatively easy to sell the oil elsewhere. As the coffee. It’s the other markets (flowers etc) that might take time. The US has shown that they are fully prepared to wreck an economy to further their domestic agenda (it’s very unlikely that most of those on the planes are actually Colombian) and so countries worldwide should treat them as a bath faith partner.
Comment by Successful-Cash-7271 at 27/01/2025 at 09:03 UTC
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Your coke should not be impacted by tariffs. But because coffee is becoming more expensive, I guess the alternative goes up too…
Comment by Numerous-Account-240 at 27/01/2025 at 13:31 UTC
2 upvotes, 0 direct replies
Making this more expensive for us to buy Columbian stuff is intended to hurt Columbia. It would work if he didn't tariff every other nation that provided the same goods as Columbia.... he wants to pressure the nation into flipping to a right wing state. All gov. Officials from Columbia had their visas revoked, so they can't visit the US. Columbia's current president is left leaning. Trump is trying to influence their politics via a tariff. It's dumb and will most likely backfire... and who pays when it does? All American citizens pay.
Comment by SoftwareDesperation at 27/01/2025 at 01:23 UTC
3 upvotes, 1 direct replies
The argument is that the tarrifs increase the price, so people shop elsewhere where the tarrifs likely don't exist, hurting the business from that place you imposed the tarrifs on.
That's the whole economic and political reason for them. Whether that works the way you want it to or not is highly nuanced and situation specific.
Comment by standardtissue at 27/01/2025 at 03:52 UTC
3 upvotes, 1 direct replies
In 2023 the US imported around 1.3 B in coffee from Colombia, 27% of cofeee imported into the US. https://www.ers.usda.gov/data-products/charts-of-note/chart-detail?chartId=110079[1][2]
1: https://www.ers.usda.gov/data-products/charts-of-note/chart-detail?chartId=110079
2: https://www.ers.usda.gov/data-products/charts-of-note/chart-detail?chartId=110079
Meanwhile we are its biggest customer, with about 250 million kilos imported a year, and Germany is its second biggest importer at roughly 42 million kilos a year.
So while Columbian coffee represents only 27% of all imported coffee to the US, not an insignificant number, we are their largest customer by 5x. A very significant number, like "all your eggs in one basket" kind of number.
Meanwhile it seems that perchance, their large cofee export to the US is based on marketing and not necessarily scarcity ? Questioning. Please enlighten: https://perfectdailygrind.com/2021/09/understanding-100-colombian-coffee-why-it-has-been-so-successful/[3][4]
On general trade: the US has only a 3.9B trade surplus with Colombia. So we sell them roughly 28B, and we buy roughly 25B from them. https://ustr.gov/countries-regions/americas/colombia[5][6]
5: https://ustr.gov/countries-regions/americas/colombia
6: https://ustr.gov/countries-regions/americas/colombia
28B appears to be about .1 percent (one tenth of one percent) of our GDP. For Colombia, however, that 25B that they sell to us seems to be roughly 6% of their GDP if I'm mathing right (and I probably am not). Now granted the value of trade is not limited to the dollar amount alone - there is such a thing as strategic trade and its possible Colombia trades us something that we desperately need.
Meanwhile in 2023 we gave Colombia over 700M in foreign assistance. In a single year.
https://www.foreignassistance.gov/cd/colombia/2023/disbursements/[7][8]
7: https://www.foreignassistance.gov/cd/colombia/2023/disbursements/
8: https://www.foreignassistance.gov/cd/colombia/2023/disbursements/
So I myself am really not worried about Colombia, in the meantime actually my coffee has been coming from Indonesia for decades anyhow.
Comment by Cantgetabreaker at 27/01/2025 at 02:29 UTC
1 upvotes, 0 direct replies
That’s a DEA tariff
Comment by Chad6181 at 27/01/2025 at 06:03 UTC
1 upvotes, 0 direct replies
This did not age well.
Comment by SeriousBoots at 27/01/2025 at 12:23 UTC
1 upvotes, 0 direct replies
I'm from Canada and am hoping the increased supply will lead to lower prices for us. Then we can start snuggling the shit down south for big gains. $$😁😁$$
Comment by [deleted] at 27/01/2025 at 13:11 UTC
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Comment by Mackinnon29E at 27/01/2025 at 07:28 UTC
1 upvotes, 0 direct replies
It would hurt both. I know this isn't happening now, but coffee sales would drop significantly with a 50% tariff in America. People would pivot to tea or something else if their Mocha from Starbucks was $13.
Or companies would stop buying Columbian coffee entirely.
Comment by duhdamn at 26/01/2025 at 23:49 UTC
-28 upvotes, 6 direct replies
The price disparity would be large enough that stores wouldn't stoke goods from Columbia. This reduction in demand would hurt Columbian coffee prices, for example. American stores would simply buy coffee grown somewhere else. This would have only hurt Americans who really, really had to have Columbian coffee.