97 upvotes, 11 direct replies (showing 11)
View submission: GLORIOUS MASTERRACE HEAR ME
We can see what votes come in and what path they took to get there. For the most part, people linking through SRS are not voting, even on their alt accounts. Like I said, when we catch those that do, they get banned.
What will oftentimes happen, even when SRS is not invoked, is someone makes a comment which is controversial, it gets voted up, someone replies pointing out that it is controversial, then the discussion gets noticed by everyone and lots of voting occurs. Many times this behaviour starts happening before subreddits like SRS or SRD even start linking to it.
That behaviour is not being catalyzed by folks in SRS. They have a pretty strict policy of "don't touch the poop", and most of them tend to follow it. Why? Because when they don't we ban them.
Comment by [deleted] at 19/11/2013 at 23:31 UTC
36 upvotes, 1 direct replies
So why don't they have to link to the no participation subdomain (http://np.reddit.com/[1]) like most of the other meta subreddits do?
Comment by socsa at 19/11/2013 at 22:50 UTC*
67 upvotes, 5 direct replies
So if I make a sub called "shitGamingModsSay" and start posting links to r gaming mod posts, that's kosher? Your post is ridiculous and fanciful. It's incredibly obvious when posts get filled up with responses from SRS. Either your mod tools don't work, or they've found a way to obscure what they are doing. Or you are lying, which is what I'm assuming until I'm shown proof otherwise.
Comment by ElBurrow at 19/11/2013 at 21:54 UTC
105 upvotes, 2 direct replies
So SRS member does it, member gets banned, anyone else entire sub is banned? Im just trying to figure out Admin logic.
Comment by [deleted] at 19/11/2013 at 22:39 UTC*
40 upvotes, 2 direct replies
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Comment by [deleted] at 20/11/2013 at 02:15 UTC
7 upvotes, 1 direct replies
We can see what votes come in and what path they took to get there. For the most part, people linking through SRS are not voting, even on their alt accounts. Like I said, when we catch those that do, they get banned.
Are you willing to elaborate at all on how this works? Are you using HTTP referrer and seeing if someone actually came from a metareddit? If yes, what’s to stop me from dropping the header, perhaps by copying and pasting the URL elsewhere? If not, what happens if I were to visit a metareddit and, soon afterwards—coincidentally—vote in a post on a reddit I frequent that was featured in that metareddit? Would you consider that a hit and ban me accordingly? Also, when you say that you’re seeing users’ voting records on their alternate accounts, are you doing anything to account for separate users who happen to share an IP address—roommates, for instance?
Comment by Banana_racist at 20/11/2013 at 02:42 UTC
4 upvotes, 0 direct replies
To guarantee no voting happens, why don't you have them enforce an archive log or screenshot policy? If they truly don't brigade or care about it, surely they would have no problem taking such actions.
Comment by SomeKindOfMutant at 19/11/2013 at 23:37 UTC
5 upvotes, 0 direct replies
If admins wanted to, you could easily tell SRS that their links to outside subs need to be in read-only format. That wouldn't eliminate vote brigading, but it would be a step in the right direction.
That being said, the underlying intention of SRS goes against basic reddiquette:
**PLEASE DON'T**
Mass downvote someone else's posts. If it really is the content you have a problem with (as opposed to the person), by all means vote it down when you come upon it. But don't go out of your way to seek out an enemy's posts.
http://www.reddit.com/wiki/reddiquette
Comment by Z0bie at 20/11/2013 at 09:37 UTC
2 upvotes, 0 direct replies
I'm just curious, you claim that you can see how votes came in and from where, how is this displayed from you? How does reddit know I came from a specific page and started upvoting? What if I just copy a link, paste it in a new window and start voting?
Also, if you ban a user, what stops them from simply creating another account, doing what they did before?
Sorry if my questions seem hostile, I'm genuinely just interested!
Comment by [deleted] at 19/11/2013 at 22:46 UTC
1 upvotes, 1 direct replies
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Comment by thaharlsta at 20/11/2013 at 08:48 UTC
1 upvotes, 0 direct replies
That's so full of shit.
Comment by crazy_o at 21/11/2013 at 17:55 UTC
0 upvotes, 0 direct replies
Sorry for answering a day old post but...
What will oftentimes happen, even when SRS is not invoked, is someone makes a comment which is controversial, it gets voted up, someone replies pointing out that it is controversial, then the discussion gets noticed by everyone and lots of voting occurs. Many times this behaviour starts happening before subreddits like SRS or SRD even start linking to it.
So what you are saying is most posts don't need an external source downvoting them, because what a surprise, reddit isn't as shitty as SRS thinks if it's about the normal definition of racism etc. but if it somehow ends up being against the radical definition the folks over there have external downvoting happens?
What's the point of that sub again if they aren't needed most of the time and the few times they think something is wrong that the majority thinks is insane, they brigade? Or post with their alts and upvote those ludicrous opinions changing the way natural discussions in that sub would turn out?