Comment by diogenesthehopeful on 22/08/2024 at 07:40 UTC

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View submission: The irony of determinism

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What more can I say?

You can say either:

1. the causal chain and the deterministic chain are the same or

2. the causal chain and the deterministic chain are different

I'm assuming if you are being genuine then you will say definitively that "I believe #1 is true" or "I believe #2 is true."

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Comment by MarvinBEdwards01 at 22/08/2024 at 11:28 UTC

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the causal chain and the deterministic chain are the same

The causal chain is the traditional argument for determinism. Arguments against determinism typically end up attacking reliable causality via quantum indeterminism or randomness and chance.

Comment by spgrk at 22/08/2024 at 08:12 UTC

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It depends on what you mean by “cause”. If you mean probabilistic cause there is a chain of branching probabilities. If you mean sufficient cause, which is the same as determined, there is a single actual chain (or, for the sake of completeness, in a multiverse an actually branching chain rather than a chain of branching possibilities). If there is probabilistic causation then determinism is false and libertarian free will potentially exists.