created by [deleted] on 11/03/2012 at 13:30 UTC*
13 upvotes, 17 top-level comments (showing 17)
This[1] thread actually does recap the whole thing very well. But it doesn't have an insider's perspective. So here goes.
1: http://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/qren5/rows_brouhaha_recap/
It all started when we were sent a request[2] to be moderators. As you can see he was speaking on behalf of a group of moderators at /r/OccupyWallStreet. Or claimed to be.
After the fascists got upset that pro-Americans were made moderators at /r/OccupyWallStreet, a moderator (veganeggs) caved[3] and de-modded us. As you can see, veganeggs was a fan of our work but de-modded us because of the controversy. Nebula42 assured[4] us that he would talk to the other moderators and agree to something.
I patiently waited and followed up[5] to see how the discussion was going, and I was assured that all was well. Jart (the #3 moderator) was mentioned as being impressed with our work.
Then yesterday, I was re-modded[6] and told that I could add the EPS guys. Needless to say I was shocked to see thepinkmask[7] has de-modded us again, and took Nebula42 along with us. In a PM thepinkmask admitted[8] that he was only caving into the demands of fascists here.
We worked to clear out filters stuffed with 3+ months of spam and reported links/comments. These guys clearly don't have the time to moderate their subreddit. We were by their admission fantastic moderators. **So what made us so controversial anyways??**
We enforced their own rules...
From the /r/OccupyWallStreet[9] rules[10]. Below are the rules that I spent the most time enforcing
10: http://www.reddit.com/help/faqs/OccupyWallStreet
This reddit is not your personal platform. Conspiracy theories, including any attempt to spam material by David Icke, Lyndon LaRouche?, David Duke or Alex Jones, will be removed immediately and the spammer will receive a swift global network ban. Fascist propaganda (including any attempt to spam these four people again), will be treated with the similar actions. In that we are very specific about what fascism is: the word has a meaning. Similarly anyone trying to push their own political agenda in this reddit will find themselves first warned and then moderated against up to and including the potential for a ban.
This reddit will be kept on target as much as possible. Off topic posts, low content posts, worthless posts, memes, etc, will be moderated and removed. Repeat posting of the same off topic posts and spamming of links that have nothing to do with the OWS movement will be removed outright. Similarly posters who constantly post off-topic nonsense are straddling the line very close to a ban.
This reddit does not support any political candidate. We do not support an election campaign for 2012. At all. We will remove election material for Obama, Paul, Warren, Romney, Cain, Santorum, Perry, Parry, the green party, democrats, republicans or anyone else. If you have a candidate you wish to raise awareness about you can do so over in /r/politics. They don't want our OWS stuff there and we don't want their political stuff here.
Enforcing these rules of course infuriated the Paultards.
From /r/NoLibsWatch[11] to /r/conspiracy[12] to /r/PoliticalModeration[13] (a Libertarian group of whiners) to /r/Libertarian[14] the Paultards and conpsiratards went apeshit over the fact that /r/OccupyWallStreet was no longer going to be one of their circle jerks. In fact the shitstorm threads I linked to were only a small sampling of what was going on. They were shitting themselves in multiple threads in each of their subreddits, plus spreading the drama outside of the subreddit. Mentally unstable /r/Libertarian moderator rightc0ast posted lies all over, such as this one[15] where he claimed that we were deleting comments for being anti-war.
11: http://www.reddit.com/r/NolibsWatch/comments/qr34u/
12: http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/qo4la/look_who_just_became_moderators_for_ows/
14: http://www.reddit.com/r/Libertarian/comments/qnxzk/remember_the_people_i_was_accusing_of_being/
15: http://www.reddit.com/r/worstof/comments/qoyau/neoconservatives_gain_moderator_status_at_rows/
Phew. I hope this is coherent enough. I might come back and edit this. I hope to let this post serve as an example of the spinelessness of the /r/OccupyWallStreet moderator team and the desperate lengths Paultards and conspiratards will take to make sure that they are free to spam to their heart's content.
Comment by those_draculas at 13/03/2012 at 17:13 UTC
8 upvotes, 1 direct replies
In all fairness, from following this whole drama (on subredditdrama) the people that did have an axe to grind with you *are* complete lunatics but you guys handled the situation really poorly, so many times you'd resort to derogatory phrases like "paultards" when you were trying to justify your position. Instead of staying above the fray, moderating, you guys couldn't resist the opportunity to flame the crazies, which only adds legitimacy to their whining. You could've ignored the yelling and keep communication only with the other mods and it would've probably died down (only like 5 accounts were raising complaints)
It's no suprise you were removed after that. But in the long run, r/ows has been shitty subreddit for occupy related communication for a long, long time, favoring cries of "omg police state!" over actual news on the events, so no loss for you guys:P
Comment by fapingtoyourpost at 15/03/2012 at 05:49 UTC
3 upvotes, 0 direct replies
Comment by Bcteagirl at 11/03/2012 at 20:37 UTC
13 upvotes, 1 direct replies
Crap.. I was looking forward to that being a useful subreddit again. So much for that.
Comment by mossadi at 11/03/2012 at 14:11 UTC
14 upvotes, 1 direct replies
Not sure if my initial assessment is correct, but from the looks of it the present mods have decided to let their subreddit go to hell rather than stand up for its principles. Removing the EPS mods is one thing, but also removing Nebula42 makes them appear somewhat weak in the face of criticism and tells the vocal minority that the leadership is soft. They've created a bigger problem then they had before.
Comment by RandsFoodStamps at 11/03/2012 at 18:34 UTC
9 upvotes, 0 direct replies
Also keep in mind that some very prominent Libertarian subreddits such as /r/911truth have been moderated by Neo Nazi types for a long time and there has been no outcry from the people who complained when EPS mods
Well yeah, you don't want to bite the hand that feeds.
Comment by benecere at 11/03/2012 at 16:55 UTC*
9 upvotes, 1 direct replies
/r/politicalmoderation[1] is about the stupidest piece of a waste of too many people's time I have ever witnessed. It seems to be run by outcast eight-year-olds with a need for ever-increasing doses of daily drama. I swear, they must free-base soap opera videos and shoot the stuff up or something. Funny how the Internet proves that little boys are the biggest drama queens and gossips.
Comment by Kenny_Dave at 11/03/2012 at 14:00 UTC
8 upvotes, 1 direct replies
I hope this is coherent enough.
Very coherent, thank you. Two questions then:
What about the rest of the OWS mods? Have any of them discussed anything with you, or has veganeggs mentioned anything about group discussion? I can't imagine that everyone is happy with it being a RP spamfloor.
Crackduck was talking to Nebula42 on a different thread about why you were added in the first place. Have you seen this thread? Is there anything to add to what was said there?
Comment by Darrelc at 11/03/2012 at 14:23 UTC
9 upvotes, 1 direct replies
This has all been far too much drama, I know us Israeli propagandaists are hated but if you were enforcing the rules and not doing anything shady then the moderators should have come to a common consensus.
I knew this would all kick off as soon as i saw you'd been modded. Can you post the mods logs to prove you weren't banning people for the sake of banning people?.
I don't get the anti-ows vitriol, I imagine you're in a similar position to me in that you don't support them personally (for whatever reasons) but don't want to, or see the need in silencing them.
Sigh.
Comment by crackduck at 12/03/2012 at 04:46 UTC
6 upvotes, 1 direct replies
The fact that you repeatedly refer to 'Nebula42' by the wrong gender is cute. I wonder if she knows how misogynistic you are?
Also, Tee hee!
Comment by [deleted] at 12/03/2012 at 05:18 UTC
4 upvotes, 1 direct replies
Translation: WWWAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
Comment by markusgarvey at 11/03/2012 at 21:22 UTC
5 upvotes, 3 direct replies
None of the mods that are on this subreddit, have any business moderating OWS...period...
Comment by Poop_is_Food at 11/03/2012 at 21:34 UTC
3 upvotes, 2 direct replies
I think rightc0ast is the one I would be most interested to meet in real life. He's nutty but I also get the impression that he leaves his basement and is politically active IRL. He has that special combination of tinfoil and sunlight.
Comment by richmomz at 12/03/2012 at 02:08 UTC
3 upvotes, 0 direct replies
Man, I'm gone for a few days and I miss the best drama of the year! Looks like it didn't take OWS very long to figure you guys out.
Comment by dbzer0 at 14/03/2012 at 10:12 UTC
1 upvotes, 0 direct replies
Note that thepinkmask is a "she".
Comment by krugmanisapuppet at 12/03/2012 at 02:46 UTC
-2 upvotes, 0 direct replies
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5QGkOGZubQ&feature=related
Comment by robotlive at 11/03/2012 at 14:23 UTC*
-21 upvotes, 1 direct replies
It's all over but the crying. So have a good cry, son. And Nebula42, your enabler, is gone as well. I'm very, very happy. It's a win for justice.
Comment by [deleted] at 11/03/2012 at 19:07 UTC
-5 upvotes, 0 direct replies
Collectivists, man. \(o o)/
