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View submission: Was the 2020 Election stolen?
Yes.
Multiple creditable mathematicians have claimed it is statistically impossible.
Just out of 6 swing states, there where 3,069,002 voter anomalies vs biden’s 312,992 margin of ‘victory’ in those same states.
The Bellwether counties have accurately predicted every election since 1984 with the lowest point being 88% accurate, this election biden only won 1 county which dropped its accuracy to 6%.
Dominion / solarwinds voting ‘glitches’ and data dumps. Unsecured. Made in china. Dominion literally means the opposite of freedom and democracy. The slogan is ‘changing the way people vote’. The logo is a red ballot going through the machine and coming out blue. Can’t make this up. Director of strategy for dominion quote “Trump won’t win. I made f’ing sure of that”. Nancy pelosi’s aid is their DC lobbyist.
Trump had 74 mil votes in 2016 and carried 2497 counties, Obama had 69 mil in 2012. biden had 81 mil and only 477 counties, a record low number of counties and the most votes ever. Is biden more popular than Obama?
biden lost Florida, Ohio, & Iowa. No president has lost those states and won an election.
biden lost house seats, again this has never happened before.
Compare Trumps rally’s and live streams vs biden. Few million in live streams for Trump vs a few thousand for biden. Live events brought in thousands of people for Trump vs bidens few hundred or less.
Media coverage and politicians are absolutely silent on election after forcing the fake ‘Russian collusion’ hoax down our throats for years. Not even an investigation or independent study?? This alone should sound alarms.
Big tech made sure to silence any questions or oppositions and post their ‘election disclaimers’ stating there was no fraud.
Videos & pictures of clear fraud, arrests for voter fraud.
Hundreds of signed affidavits claiming voter fraud. Foreign & domestic.
biden literally said “We have put together I think the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics.”
biden received the most amount of ‘dark money’ than any other election ever.
Still 30 active court cases regarding voter fraud. Other courts, including Supreme Court not even hearing cases.
Unsecured ballots, missing ballots, mail in voting not authorized by state legislatures, no voter ID in some states. Changing the rules weeks before an election.
You can get into the nitty gritty of the exact numbers, type, and data over disputed ballots but it’s appalling.
Massive injections of votes at certain times, over 100k and not a single one went to Trump.
Is there anything I missed??
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Comment by [deleted] at 27/01/2021 at 14:47 UTC
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The **Bellwether counties** have accurately predicted every election since 1984 with the lowest point being 88% accurate, this election biden only won 1 county which dropped its accuracy to 6%.
I am not American so I had to google that. This argument is bullshit. Here is why
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_election_bellwether_counties_in_the_United_States
Deviations in one election:
In 2016 (winning candidate lost the popular vote): 14 counties
In 2020: 18 counties
So that means the deviation was more or less the same for 2016 and 2020 so bullshit
Comment by nightowl984 at 27/01/2021 at 04:00 UTC
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don't forget State Farm Arena where they kicked out the journalists and poll watchers, said they were done counting for the night, and as soon as everyone left, 4 people stayed behind and took boxes of ballots out from under a table and spent the next few hours counting them. This coincides with a huge dump of ballots for Biden. And for those who are living under a rock, this is all on surveillance video. The entire thing.
Comment by Forgotten_Lie at 27/01/2021 at 08:43 UTC
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Multiple creditable mathematicians have claimed it is statistically impossible.
You wouldn't happen to have a link to a source from a creditable mathematician explaining the statistics?
Comment by FatMansRevenge at 27/01/2021 at 05:56 UTC*
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biden lost Florida, Ohio, & Iowa. No president has lost those states and won an election.
You know, when I saw the argument that was made by Trump’s lawyers in the Texas v Pennsylvania suit saying no one has ever won a presidential election while losing Florida and Ohio, I thought it had to be true. Nobody would make such a claim in a filing with the Supreme Court without doing a quick check to make sure it was true, right?
Turns out you only have to go back to 1960 to find it’s complete bullshit
And look! Your claim is also shown to be bullshit by that very same election!
So tell me, why should I believe anything else you, or Trump, has to say when I can’t even trust that you’ve done the research to ensure a super simple claim like this is correct?
Comment by snoosnoosewsew at 27/01/2021 at 07:02 UTC
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The slogan is ‘changing the way people vote’. The logo is a red ballot going through the machine and coming out blue. Can’t make this up.
I think this one is incorrect. Just a (very funny) meme someone made after the controversy. The actual logo is all red and has a different slogan.
Comment by Adodie at 27/01/2021 at 05:37 UTC
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Okay, some of these are laughably wrong or misguided, but here's just a sampling:
biden lost Florida, Ohio, & Iowa. No president has lost those states and won an election.
Kennedy in 1960.
[Dominion's] slogan is ‘changing the way people vote’.
Yeah, this isn't true[1], and if it was these would be incredibly stupid people.
biden lost house seats, again this has never happened before.
"Democrats did badly down ballot" is not the slam-dunk case for pro-Dem voter fraud you think it is.
biden had 81 mil and only 477 counties, a record low number of counties and the most votes ever.
Biden won 37 more counties than Clinton in 2016[2]. In any case, shouldn't really be much of a story that Democrats are doing far better in large suburban counties and the GOP is doing far better in the (more numerous but less populated) rural counties.
biden received the most amount of ‘dark money’ than any other election ever.
Source? Worth noting that in the 2020 election cycle, there was more pro-GOP SuperPac spending than Pro-Dem[3].
3: https://www.opensecrets.org/outsidespending/summ.php?chrt=V&type=S
Live events brought in thousands of people for Trump vs bidens few hundred or less.
Literally lol. I mean, you know Biden was taking precautions for COVID-19 while Trump generally was not?
Comment by [deleted] at 27/01/2021 at 06:22 UTC
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Comment by ICEGoneGiveItToYa at 27/01/2021 at 04:13 UTC
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If you missed anything it’d be here:
https://hereistheevidence.com/
Comment by _jukmifgguggh at 27/01/2021 at 04:13 UTC
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The logo is a red ballot going through the machine and coming out blue.
That logo is fake. Their actual logo is the same excluding the blue ballot coming out the other end.
Comment by [deleted] at 27/01/2021 at 03:57 UTC
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Is there anything I missed??
Yes, real evidence that courts would respect.
Comment by HAthrowaway50 at 27/01/2021 at 03:49 UTC
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Just out of 6 swing states, there where 3,069,002 voter anomalies vs biden’s 312,992 margin of ‘victory’ in those same states.
this is simply inaccurate
Comment by [deleted] at 27/01/2021 at 07:08 UTC*
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You can’t seriously be using counties as a statistic can you? Winning LA county and it’s 10 million voters is the same as winning multiple states and all their counties. Land doesn’t vote, people vote.
And you’re using rally size as evidence of voter fraud? Did you know there is a pandemic happening? Contagious virus that people don’t want to get, you people always seem to forget that little fact. There were no big rallies because Biden didn’t want to get his supporters sick and kill them before the election, like Trump did with Herman Cain.
Comment by maelstrom51 at 27/01/2021 at 04:21 UTC
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This is a whole lot of gish gallop, so lets take things one item at a time instead.
Regarding bellweather counties, there were 18 bellwether counties that voted incorrectly in 2020, vs 14 bellweather counties that voted incorrectly in 2016. What makes the former so much more strange than the latter?
Comment by think4ourselves at 27/01/2021 at 03:28 UTC
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Comment by FriedChicken at 27/01/2021 at 09:23 UTC
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Right off the bat, let me preface all of this by declaring I believe the allegations of voter fraud to be true.
All that being said, for the sake of discussion and argument, I will refute your points.
Multiple creditable mathematicians have claimed it is statistically impossible.
My gut instinct to this is "Don't trust any statistics you haven't yourself forged". How can we trust these mathematicians and their methods? I saw the MIT guy, however he seemed to have political connections. Statistics to my mind aren't proof of anything.
The Bellwether counties have accurately predicted every election since 1984 with the lowest point being 88% accurate, this election biden only won 1 county which dropped its accuracy to 6%.
Trump is an outsider candidate. He's not a politician "of the system". His campaign is new and revolutionary. How can we suddenly rely on bellweather counties when they only reliably work for politicians of a system?
Dominion / solarwinds voting ‘glitches’ and data dumps. Unsecured. Made in china. Dominion literally means the opposite of freedom and democracy. The slogan is ‘changing the way people vote’. The logo is a red ballot going through the machine and coming out blue. Can’t make this up. Director of strategy for dominion quote “Trump won’t win. I made f’ing sure of that”. Nancy pelosi’s aid is their DC lobbyist.
Are you suggesting someone pulling at the strings of dominion is leaving little messages at the audacity of their feat?
Trump had 74 mil votes in 2016 and carried 2497 counties, Obama had 69 mil in 2012. biden had 81 mil and only 477 counties, a record low number of counties and the most votes ever. Is biden more popular than Obama?
Couple things here. 1. the 81 million voter turnout for Biden could be people who are simply voting *against* Trump. Why Biden only had 477 counties - that's easily explained by the city vs country divide we've seen in this eleciton
biden lost Florida, Ohio, & Iowa. No president has lost those states and won an election.
Again, see my point about bellweather counties. Trump's victory is unprecedented.
biden lost house seats, again this has never happened before.
you mean a president-elect's party losing house seats?
Compare Trumps rally’s and live streams vs biden. Few million in live streams for Trump vs a few thousand for biden. Live events brought in thousands of people for Trump vs bidens few hundred or less.
See my point again about most voters voting *against* Trump
Media coverage and politicians are absolutely silent on election after forcing the fake ‘Russian collusion’ hoax down our throats for years. Not even an investigation or independent study?? This alone should sound alarms.
Russia *did* interfere in the 2016 election, although not in an insidious manner to get Trump elected, rather in the insidious matter to sow discord in this country. To that end Russia has succeeded.
Comment by DrRoxzo-PhD at 27/01/2021 at 09:05 UTC
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If I had a free award, I would give it to you.
Comment by canyoutriforce at 27/01/2021 at 13:11 UTC
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Yeah, you missed sources