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View submission: The Tiananmen Square Incident(Searching for truth)
Thats too good to be true and that does not explain why soldier being lynched and why protester manage to hijacked apc and pbs does not provide good source and eyewitness on this subject.
After searching a bit, I found that the movement being hijacked by extremist student who use violence to force government to use violence. After that incident happen , the student leader manage to escape the country and most of them manage to get good comfy job which makes you really suspect their intention.
I think this quote from her sum up the entire situation.
Chai Ling: "What we actually are hoping for is bloodshed, the moment when the government is ready to brazenly butcher the people. Only when the Square is awash with blood will the people of China open their eyes. Only then will they really be united. But how can I explain any of this to my fellow students?"
Chai Ling: "And what is truly sad is that some students, and famous well-connected people, are working hard to help the government, to prevent it from taking such measures. For the sake of their selfish interests and their private dealings they are trying to cause our movement to disintegrate and get us out of the Square before the government becomes so desperate that it takes action...."
Cunningham (BBC): "Are you going to stay in the Square yourself?"
Chai Ling: "No."
Cunningham: "Why?"
Chai Ling: "Because my situation is different. My name is on the government's blacklist. I'm not going to be destroyed by this government. I want to live. Anyway, that's how I feel about it. I don't know if people will say I'm selfish. I believe that people have to continue the work I have started. A democracy movement can't succeed with only one person. I hope you don't report what I've just said for the time being, okay?"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chai%5C_Ling#The%5C_Gate%5C_of%5C_Heavenly%5C_Peace%5C_documentary[1][2]
1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chai%5C_Ling#The%5C_Gate%5C_of%5C_Heavenly%5C_Peace%5C_documentary
2: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chai_Ling#The_Gate_of_Heavenly_Peace_documentary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcyPJ29PLX4&t=363s[3][4]
3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcyPJ29PLX4&t=363s
4: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcyPJ29PLX4&t=363s
Comment by h088y at 02/02/2025 at 12:17 UTC
6 upvotes, 1 direct replies
Dude she is literally saying that they need to provoke the government to show their true colors otherwise people won't take action against the oppressive government. Which they did. The government was just so brutal that it killed any resistances.
Shame on you for taking the side of the oppressors in a Chomsky sub. Trying to push a false narrative to benefit an oppressive regime. Why is this sub filled with Sino shills? It should go against the very nature of the people in this sub to support what happened in tianamen square.
Talk about 'Western Propaganda' as if the entire West got together to push a specific narrative. We are a bunch of very different countries over here, with different values, governments and cultures. We don't have a 'Western Propaganda Agency'. Most of the west has a long tradition of separating news and journalism from the government, and all of them agree that Tianamen square massacre happened. There is exactly one country that has tried to suppress that fact for decades and it's China.
I don't understand what you are trying to prove with your line of reasoning. The leader of the student protest movement wants the protests to provoke the government into taking action. If she stays she will be killed because she is blacklisted. Get cushy jobs? From who? From the 'West'? Bro there aren't any organizations out there representing 'the West'. They had to flee their country or they would be killed by their government, all because they wanted equal rights and freedom of speech, and you are saying they are the bad ones? In a Chomsky subreddit? How dude? Gtfo with that CCCP shill shit. Go post to r/Sino instead man