created by Sayed_Hasan on 01/02/2025 at 12:16 UTC
155 upvotes, 11 top-level comments (showing 11)
Comment by HistoryNerd101 at 02/02/2025 at 02:01 UTC
18 upvotes, 0 direct replies
The conflict has awoken consciousness in a way nothing else probably could have. Instead of just being a story that popped in and out on the news and nobody really took prolonged notice, now the world’s attention has been focused on events there never before and the history of it all is being questioned and reevaluated. I never heard anybody I knew using the expression “Zionist” before, now it’s common. While Hamas terrorism is still frowned upon, the reasons driving people to such extremes are being more understood. It’s no longer viewed as just “hatred of the Jews” or “puppets of Iran.” Those are seen more now as worn over talking points/propaganda. For those playing the long game, this has all been a game changer…
Comment by Salmon_Of_Iniquity at 01/02/2025 at 15:44 UTC
37 upvotes, 2 direct replies
They beat Israel and the American empire. All they had to do was not lose.
Comment by AntiochustheGreatIII at 02/02/2025 at 00:27 UTC
12 upvotes, 1 direct replies
Hezbollah and Hamas's leadership was annihilated, Hezbollah lost its supply corridor into Syria; Assad was toppled; Iran's air defenses were flattened, and Iran was a clear loser in the April and October exchanges (hence why no "True Promise 3" or intervention in Syria when Assad was toppled).
I get the need to keep up morale, but this is just delusional. It reminds me of propaganda in the 1956 Suez crisis claiming a great victory was won against Israel (ignoring the diplomatic background noise that actually led the Israelis to withdraw from the Sinai), only for the 6-day war to happen. Or claiming the Yom Kippur / October War was a great victory, only for Egypt to willingly become a US vassal state. The comments here just reek of low-IQ, sorry.
Comment by Anton_Pannekoek at 03/02/2025 at 10:35 UTC
2 upvotes, 0 direct replies
It was very striking that in the hostage exchanges Hamas soldiers have appeared in their hundreds, looking very good, far from destroyed, if anything they have grown in strength. They stood in front of a banner which read: "Gaza is the graveyard for the criminal Zionists"
Comment by Pestus613343 at 01/02/2025 at 14:28 UTC
18 upvotes, 5 direct replies
Religious garbage justifying death and destruction.
Victory? Gaza is rubble. There's no victory here.
Comment by SamuelGarijo at 01/02/2025 at 18:47 UTC*
5 upvotes, 2 direct replies
The only point where I think it might have some validity is the potential recognition of Palestine as a state internationally. But given Gaza’s devastation and Israel’s strength, Hamas has only given the U.S. and Israel more justification to use full military force.
I'm not an expert, but I don’t understand when the democratic path was abandoned. Without diplomacy, Hamas will never achieve statehood recognized at an international level.
Comment by Schnitzel8 at 02/02/2025 at 10:58 UTC
1 upvotes, 1 direct replies
This is nonsense. Just look at the Gazans. Do they look like victors?
I know Israel didn't achieve its goals. But the idea that Palestine somehow won something is idiotic.
Comment by RolfMiau at 01/02/2025 at 19:20 UTC
0 upvotes, 0 direct replies
All things that are real can be destroyed in war.
Materialism is the truth.
All ideas are lies.
Comment by hunf-hunf at 01/02/2025 at 19:17 UTC
-6 upvotes, 0 direct replies
What’s the Palestinian version of “hasbra”? Bc this is it
Comment by bombielonia at 02/02/2025 at 07:22 UTC
-2 upvotes, 0 direct replies
You have to admit they didn’t do anything. They were as big a part in the destruction as Israel was.
Comment by [deleted] at 01/02/2025 at 15:10 UTC
-12 upvotes, 1 direct replies
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