-34 upvotes, 33 direct replies (showing 25)
View submission: Announcing Online Presence Indicators
That’s understandable and is part of the reason why we’re announcing this ahead of time. We want to give users a week to opt-out before we gradually make this more public.
Comment by teraflop at 03/03/2021 at 18:38 UTC
62 upvotes, 4 direct replies
How is the existence of this feature, and the ability to opt-out, going to be communicated to the 99.9% of users who aren't subscribed to /r/changelog? Are they expected to just stumble across it in the preferences page?
Comment by h0nest_Bender at 03/03/2021 at 18:35 UTC
33 upvotes, 1 direct replies
Announcing it to who? This isn't exactly a front page sub. Your announcement is the equivalent of quietly whispering in the corner.
We wanted to give users a week to opt-out
Bullshit. If you cared at all about your users you would make this an opt-in feature and you'd make a bigger announcement about it to draw user's attention to the change.
Your artful spin of the facts is really off-putting.
Comment by [deleted] at 03/03/2021 at 19:07 UTC
14 upvotes, 0 direct replies
At this point I seriously cannot tell if you're lying to us or lying to yourself dude. Come on.
This is just like the other cockamamie social media monkey-see-monkey-do features you keep cooking up. Nobody asked for this. Nobody wants it. It adds no value to the Reddit experience. The only thing it's going to be used for is harassment.
How many times do you people need to be told that opt-out features like this make everybody angry for you to knock this shit off?
Comment by [deleted] at 03/03/2021 at 19:44 UTC
10 upvotes, 0 direct replies
Fuck this, fuck you. It's so fucking obvious you're hiding this shit by not posting to /r/announcements. Scummy ass fucking company. So sad to see it deteriorate so hard. I fucking knew it when you guys pushed that useless bullshit new reddit shit it just sucks to see you guys follow exactly in the corporate social media bullshit all the other companies are doing.
Gotta turn a buck, the fuck users.
Comment by GeorgeAmberson at 03/03/2021 at 18:45 UTC
17 upvotes, 0 direct replies
Oh good, because I would have totally seen this post if not for a pissed off post on Century Club about your awful privacy invading feature. Can the fucking PR shit.
Comment by MilhouseJr at 03/03/2021 at 19:13 UTC
34 upvotes, 1 direct replies
r/Changelog: 46K subscribers
r/Announcements: 91 million subscribers
Great communication choice.
Comment by BigGayBlackMan at 03/03/2021 at 19:47 UTC
5 upvotes, 1 direct replies
As my other comment cannot be seen because the comment thread got nuked, I'll restate it here:
No matter how many times you say this, that is NOT opting out. Making it so I have a week to change my status to: "Hiding" (Great name by the way, automatically has a negative connotation to it) still has me in the pool of presence status for everyone. This is not a good feature at all.
This makes it so much easier to harass people. To watch people's browsing habits. To annoy mods. If I can't make it that you can't even see a dot next to my name ever, I'm still opt-ed IN.
If this is to help small communities, they can all opt-in to make their small community better, not FORCE every user to hide if they don't want to show their status.
And finally, this should be on r/announcements. I only found this post because I didnt know what that random green dot was that said online when I moused over it and searched for it on r/blog and /r/announcements and tried /r/changelog as a last effort.
Comment by Nerdlinger at 03/03/2021 at 18:53 UTC
10 upvotes, 0 direct replies
Swell. Why not just make it opt-in, rather than opt-out?
By the way, since y'all can't keep the "request desktop site" setting checked on mobile, what assurances do we have that this won't get reset to showing out presence without the user explicitly turning it back on?
Comment by MSJDCAK at 03/03/2021 at 19:18 UTC
10 upvotes, 0 direct replies
Fucking bullshit mate. Nobody sees this subreddit. I only came to search it out because I noticed a new green dot next to my name.
The only thing dumber than your attempt at PR deflection is the feature itself.
Comment by qdatk at 03/03/2021 at 19:16 UTC
24 upvotes, 1 direct replies
User: It should be opt-in.
Admin: Totally with you! That's why it's opt-out.
Comment by brandonsmash at 03/03/2021 at 19:48 UTC*
8 upvotes, 0 direct replies
Serious question here: Does Reddit, Inc. (or the admin/dev staff) listen to *anything* that users and mods actually want?
I'm not being facetious. One does not get the impression that Reddit, Inc. legitimately has any interest in the opinions of its users.
Comment by Blank-Cheque at 03/03/2021 at 18:46 UTC
36 upvotes, 3 direct replies
Then why isn't this post on /r/announcements?
Comment by Naouak at 03/03/2021 at 18:44 UTC
6 upvotes, 0 direct replies
How about just making opt out to prevent occasional users to broadcast personal information without their consent?
How about asking the user on login if they want to activate it instead of doing it by default?
Comment by BlankVerse at 03/03/2021 at 19:16 UTC
7 upvotes, 0 direct replies
You should also post about this in a few moderator subs.
I hate this "feature", and as a mod I really, really hate it.
Comment by WorldsBegin at 03/03/2021 at 19:47 UTC
4 upvotes, 1 direct replies
How is this in line with GDPR? I'm almost certain an online indicator is personal data, at least it might be feasible to track this flag targeting a specific user and draw conclusions. Do you disagree? How certain are you an explicit opt-in is not actually required by law in European countries?
Comment by oldrecordplayersmell at 03/03/2021 at 20:18 UTC
4 upvotes, 0 direct replies
It should be opt-in.
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That’s **understandable and is part of the reason why we’re announcing this ahead of time**. We want to **give users a week to opt-out**
I was originally going to be a little snarky replying to this but you don't need to be for this. It is all pretty dumb.
Comment by LarryBeard at 04/03/2021 at 09:14 UTC
2 upvotes, 0 direct replies
Nah you didn't announce shit. You posted a thread in a subreddit used by no one.
Meanwhile reddit is spamming me with this shit :
Hi there!
We think it's essential to involve the community (you!) in our process as we improve Reddit. It’s also essential that we include a link for the survey so you can take it - sorry for the spam, second time's a charm we hope! :)
You’re invited to participate in a survey that will ask you about your experiences with gaming products, services, and brands. By “gaming products,” we mean everything - games, consoles, gaming PCs, online services, etc.
Please click this link to start this survey so we can learn about your experiences. We don't ask for personally identifiable information, though Reddit may use your anonymized answers for marketing purposes.
Thank you for your time!
Reddit Team
(Please note: This message cannot be replied to)
So why the fuck don't you send this kind of message to announce your changes ?
Comment by scriptkiddie4hire at 03/03/2021 at 18:48 UTC
7 upvotes, 0 direct replies
We should be opted-out by default
Comment by Imgonnathrowawaythis at 03/03/2021 at 19:50 UTC
3 upvotes, 0 direct replies
I only found this by digging for it after seeing the change, most users aren’t going to know that it isn’t showing yet. We know why you’re doing this, but we should be able to opt-out of the button / status entirely. I just want to be a username not an icon on discord.
Comment by -Phinocio at 03/03/2021 at 22:11 UTC
4 upvotes, 0 direct replies
Who checks /r/changelog? I only came to here because it was linked on another sub.
Comment by Noy_Telinu at 03/03/2021 at 20:30 UTC
5 upvotes, 1 direct replies
How do you sleep at night?
Comment by CL-Young at 04/03/2021 at 01:00 UTC
3 upvotes, 0 direct replies
So, to clarify, you understand that it should be opt-innand instead made it opt-out.
Comment by Gigglebaggle at 03/03/2021 at 21:56 UTC
2 upvotes, 2 direct replies
Um, no? It's already there. Quit gaslighting us you fuckwits. Also, while you're at it, please fix your mobile app. I have to clear my cache at least twice a week now, which just defeats the purpose of a cache.
Comment by BubiBalboa at 03/03/2021 at 21:20 UTC
3 upvotes, 0 direct replies
That's not how opt-in works, my dude.
Comment by azog1337 at 04/03/2021 at 01:57 UTC
2 upvotes, 0 direct replies
That doesn't even make sense.