[reddit change] Total comment karma shown on a user's profile page will no longer display lower than -100

https://www.reddit.com/r/changelog/comments/2d0rdg/reddit_change_total_comment_karma_shown_on_a/

created by Deimorz on 08/08/2014 at 22:04 UTC*

184 upvotes, 30 top-level comments (showing 25)

This changes absolutely nothing related to the scores of individual comments, the only thing affected is the overall total for comment karma shown on a user's profile page.

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reddit has always had a "floor" on the lowest link karma total displayed for a user, where the site never displays a total link karma value less than 1 when looking at someone's userpage (including your own). We've now added a similar floor to the total comment karma, but are allowing it to go down to -100 before it stops. The actual amount of negative karma is still tracked internally, but nothing below -100 will be displayed.

This has been requested a lot for years[1], and is intended to both lower the motivation for "downvote collectors" as well as hopefully reduce the severity of cases where a mob decides to mass-downvote someone far into the negative.

1: http://www.reddit.com/r/ideasfortheadmins/search?q=negative+karma&sort=top&restrict_sr=on

View the code behind this change on github

Comments

Comment by a_cruel_accounting at 09/08/2014 at 00:26 UTC

144 upvotes, 10 direct replies

Here is the final Top 25 list. It was fun while it lasted.

┌──────┬──���───────┬─────────┬──────┬──────┐
│ rank │ username │ comment │ link │ sb'd │
╞══════╪══════════╪═════════╪══════╪══════╡
└──────┴──────────┴─────────┴──────┴──────┘

1 | /u/Dw-Im-Here | -95581 | 96 | x 2 | /u/fabulousferd | -46470 | 992 | 3 | /u/MrBelmont | -28409 | 1389 | x 4 | /u/paulhsu | -25693 | 159 | 5 | /u/imocklosers | -25559 | 1 | 6 | /u/TheLordDestructo | -25332 | 7 | x 7 | /u/Just_Repeats_You | -24261 | 12 | x 8 | /u/All-Hail-Mr-Stamos | -20865 | 35302 | 9 | /u/arrowstotheknee | -18510 | 340 | 10 | /u/posts_baby_talk | -18325 | 1 | 11 | /u/my_chemical_romans | -16837 | 2 | 12 | /u/makingitbetter | -15817 | 9 | 13 | /u/renefonck | -14790 | 332 | x 14 | /u/arrowtootheknee | -14353 | 382 | 15 | /u/krakow057 | -13921 | 2561 | 16 | /u/HammerThymeGun | -13755 | 1 | x 17 | /u/annefranklyididnazi | -13676 | 123 | 18 | /u/wow_iM_sexy_as_hell | -13327 | 6 | x 19 | /u/thedestructolordd | -13177 | 1 | x 20 | /u/a_cruel_accounting | -12692 | 1 | 21 | /u/Shanondoa | -12500 | 2827 | 22 | /u/wherez_da_bacon | -12260 | 33 | 23 | /u/x17 | -12191 | 1553 | x 24 | /u/RahAbasd | -11955 | 138 | 25 | /u/teamsix | -11676 | 25 |

Comment by Nechaev at 09/08/2014 at 01:40 UTC

26 upvotes, 3 direct replies

Unfortuntely the "sport" in trolling for offense won't suddenly evaporate, but spotting the trolls just got harder.

Comment by xvvhiteboy at 08/08/2014 at 23:07 UTC

34 upvotes, 1 direct replies

/u/fabulousferd

Oh how sad this makes me

Comment by xvvhiteboy at 08/08/2014 at 23:09 UTC

7 upvotes, 1 direct replies

Did you change anything about link karmas scoring, because now on my userpage it says I have 1 link karma in /r/reddit.com when it used to say I had -1

Comment by KinderSpirit at 09/08/2014 at 07:53 UTC

15 upvotes, 2 direct replies

I think it should be to -1000.

I have seen new people downvoted to -400 with 1 comment. Often they are able to turn that around some, but usually just delete their account.

With -1000 showing, it gives a bit better indication that the user is a troll or just a bit contrary.

Comment by Main_man_mike at 11/08/2014 at 23:49 UTC

6 upvotes, 0 direct replies

So how about we put it to 100 for people that have more than that to discourage karma whoring? I don't see the difference if someone wants to get a negative score.

Comment by totes_meta_bot at 08/08/2014 at 23:13 UTC*

15 upvotes, 1 direct replies

This thread has been linked to from elsewhere on reddit.

[/r/FabulousFerds] Game over. Everyone go home.

[/r/Oppression] Admins are oppressing us!--Total comment karma shown on a user's profile page will no longer display lower than -100

[/r/redditectives] Let's play a game of rock, friendzone, paper, lizard, Jews.

1: http://www.reddit.com/message/compose?to=%2Fr%2Fmeta_bot_mailbag

Comment by redtaboo at 08/08/2014 at 22:10 UTC

19 upvotes, 3 direct replies

Ok, but how will this affect the scores of individual comments?

^^^pls ^^^don't ^^^murder ^^^me!

Comment by [deleted] at 08/08/2014 at 22:10 UTC*

27 upvotes, 1 direct replies

I am so happy for this change.

Still, I will never ever forget /u/dw-im-here, RIP you magnificent bastard. ~~You never could make it to -95,000~~

Comment by [deleted] at 08/08/2014 at 23:51 UTC

9 upvotes, 0 direct replies

First the up/down counts, now this? Goddamn.

Comment by killer4u77 at 31/08/2014 at 03:50 UTC

2 upvotes, 0 direct replies

RIP :(

Comment by Algernon_Asimov at 09/08/2014 at 01:43 UTC

5 upvotes, 2 direct replies

as well as hopefully reduce the severity of cases where a mob decides to mass-downvote someone far into the negative.

I find the timing of this change to be interestingly coincidental. Does this have anything to do with the recent fuss regarding /u/Unidan, /u/UnidanX, and /u/Ecka6?

Comment by ky1e at 08/08/2014 at 22:16 UTC

4 upvotes, 0 direct replies

Thank you for this change, I think it will be greatly beneficial

Comment by CeruleanRuin at 09/08/2014 at 02:54 UTC*

2 upvotes, 0 direct replies

Finally. Only now they'll compete for the lowest individual comment score.

Comment by thepenmen22 at 08/08/2014 at 22:38 UTC

1 upvotes, 1 direct replies

Does this mean the huge amount of negative karma is not possible, or is just invisible?

Like let's say a user gets -1000 comment karma from a comment. Does this mean he has to get +1000 comment karma for it to be changed on his profile, or just +100 since the limit is -100?

Comment by RichKidChad at 09/08/2014 at 03:38 UTC

2 upvotes, 0 direct replies

WTF

Comment by iamnotafurry at 09/08/2014 at 04:22 UTC

0 upvotes, 0 direct replies

Good change should help With trolls.

Comment by Theemuts at 08/08/2014 at 22:37 UTC

0 upvotes, 0 direct replies

Good.

Comment by lecterrkr at 03/09/2014 at 02:47 UTC

1 upvotes, 0 direct replies

So "this has been requested a lot for years" means that some users don't like it, and are taken into consideration above the amount of users who DOES like it?

I just read the "requests" and there is a none solid reason to remove it, beside than "just don't like it"

Because lets be honest, there is a reason of why they have this amount of downvotes, specially Dw-Im-Here, because they get they jokes and a lot of users love them. We love them.

Fuck this Facebook like shit.

Seriously, what was the problem? seriously, money? it affected your revenue or something? We were having fun, ou fun doesn't counts?

Comment by [deleted] at 09/08/2014 at 01:16 UTC

-6 upvotes, 2 direct replies

I am sick of all this shit.

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1. (?|?) A change that happened a few months ago. The number of up and downvotes was longer displayed. Only the average. I don't need to describe this in more details because we all know that change and we all know the immense colossal shitstorm that took place.

2. /u/UnidanX has been heavily downvoted (in every single one of his comments). However, it appears that he has thousands of positive karma. The explanation for that remains very speculative.

3)Now the most recent change: Total comment karma shown on a user's profile page will no longer display lower than -100[1]. I was a fan of /u/FabulousFerd. He had -46000 votes, and now only -100 can be displayed.

1: http://www.reddit.com/r/changelog/comments/2d0rdg/reddit_change_total_comment_karma_shown_on_a/

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I'm for a simple, fair karma system. Receive an upvote, an upvote is accounted in your total. Receive a downvote, one less karma point will be displayed. PERIOD. Let's not let admins fuck reddit up, please. I came to reddit because I liked the simplicity.

Comment by [deleted] at 09/08/2014 at 02:44 UTC*

-6 upvotes, 2 direct replies

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Comment by account9211 at 08/08/2014 at 22:36 UTC

-17 upvotes, 3 direct replies

Reddit.com: slowly destroying everything that made people love it.

Comment by joetromboni at 08/08/2014 at 22:38 UTC

-12 upvotes, 0 direct replies

For the record, I am from Canada.

Comment by RahAbasd at 09/08/2014 at 19:50 UTC*

-13 upvotes, 3 direct replies

As number 24 on reddit's list of people with lowest karma, I can tell you that while this change may be useful in some situations, I have my doubts that it will be effective in counteracting situations where you have an entrenched mob mentality in a subreddit.

In my case, /r/toronto is the only sub where I have negative karma, and it is fed by a group of people who have basically made the sub unwelcome to anyone who doesn't share the left-leaning politics of the residents of the old city of Toronto (before it was amalgamated with neighbouring areas about a dozen years ago, which don't share the same demographics or politics, and which is a long story).

Those people who do have right-leaning politics, and who aren't scared off by the particularly malevolent comments of the regulars of the sub about right-wing politics, have to withstand every manner of harassment from persistent bullying, to persistent sexual harassment, to slander, to online stalkers.

At this point this has pretty much become the culture of the sub, and it's the culture the mods of the sub have tacitly encouraged by doing nothing about people who repeatedly and openly engage in harassing comments directed at those who hold the minority view.

I don't see there being a solution to this, as reddit sort of relies on community policing, and so when the "community" turns towards accepting bigoted and intolerant attitudes to those with minority views, then you either accept your downvotes, or you leave.

If you accept your downvotes, and don't try to game reddit by switching user accounts, you are penalized as if you are a downvote-collector as the wait time between being able to make comments increases. (And since this change doesn't affect these wait times that are calculated based on your karma, but rather just the visible representation of your karma, this changes doesn't help here).

On the other hand if you leave, you lose the ability to voice your opinion, and when it has been shown that the major media actually does turn to social networks like reddit for content and reactions, then there are "real world" implications here.

Either way, you can be silenced, and the politics and enmity of those who have encouraged this situation is forwarded.

With all that said, I think for the most part reddit does a fair job at allowing people to have their say, but perhaps there ought to be rules specific to city and country subreddits that guarantee some "minority rights" against a localized majority mob.

EDIT:

Case in point. It appears one of the guys who actively stalks me has found his way to this comment to downvote me and slander me.

There's no point in engaging stalkers so I just block them, but it is indicative of what goes on in /r/toronto.

I expanded the comment this time, and it's only slightly less hateful than usual.

Comment by [deleted] at 08/08/2014 at 22:38 UTC

-19 upvotes, 1 direct replies

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