Comment by kn0thing on 14/05/2015 at 16:51 UTC*

-55 upvotes, 12 direct replies (showing 12)

View submission: Promote ideas, protect people

This is not what we're proposing. We made reddit so that as many people as possible could speak as freely as possible -- when our userbase is telling us that harassment is a huge problem for them and it's effectively silencing or keeping people off the site, it's a problem we need to address.

edit: added citation!

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Comment by fortified_concept at 14/05/2015 at 17:49 UTC*

36 upvotes, 0 direct replies

Nice way to manipulate the statistics. From the looks of that survey it seems like ~90% were satisfied with the current state of reddit. So from what I gather **only ~5%** is telling you that harassment is a "huge problem", a 5% that you're prioritizing over the other 95% of the userbase. Also funny how you kind of avoid to address (or do something about) the 35% of extremely dissatisfied users who complain about heavy handed moderation and censorship.

Comment by lulzmaker at 14/05/2015 at 17:15 UTC

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when our userbase is telling us that harassment is a huge problem for them and it's effectively silencing or keeping people off the site

Bull fucking shit, there are a million and one subs created to complain about reddit and whose users never leave despite acting as if reddit somehow is the worst thing in their life. All your doing is pandering to a small vocal minority whose job in life is to bitch and moan and if you actually believe turning reddit into hugbox for these loonies is going to BRING you users instead of driving users out your lying to yourself.

Comment by ecafyelims at 14/05/2015 at 17:47 UTC*

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Reading over the survey results[1]. I can't see where people were complaining about being harassed. I even went to the survey CSV[2] and did a CTRL-F for "harass" and came up with 0 results.

1: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QJBPZt0oa3UCkL6QGBHp6vITXs3f1bYcCyA5xIQcFZw/pub

2: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7mGKrwE1DttbjZhRWdWTXRqVjg/view?usp=sharing

*There's no one complaining about harassment in your survey.**

Instead, like you say, the reason they don't recommend to friends is "they want to avoid exposing friends to hate and offensive content"

Well, offensive content can mean any range of things. I know a lot of people who are offended by the science behind climate change. I know others who are offended by LGBT in the public. I know a lot of people who are offended by nudity, in general.

I hope you're not going to start removing content based on reports of it being "offensive," and I'm scared you'll start shadowbanning users under general guideline of "harassment" such as calling out CEO's for misconduct.

Please tell me this isn't the plan.

Comment by redditorriot at 14/05/2015 at 16:59 UTC

61 upvotes, 4 direct replies

when **our userbase is telling us** that harassment is a **huge** problem for them and it's effectively silencing or keeping people off the site

It is?

Sources? Methodology? Sample size? Subreddit hotspots? Demographics?

Comment by [deleted] at 14/05/2015 at 17:06 UTC*

85 upvotes, 1 direct replies

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Comment by aelfric at 14/05/2015 at 17:44 UTC

4 upvotes, 0 direct replies

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

Who reviews your decisions? Under what conditions do you define "reasonable"? If there is disagreement with your decisions, to whom do the users appeal?

You are setting yourself up as judge, jury, and executioner all at once. That never works out well.

Comment by graffiti81 at 14/05/2015 at 17:24 UTC

5 upvotes, 1 direct replies

So, wait, 62% of the userbase is fine with reddit, so let's change it? Fuck that.

Comment by TheBananaKing at 14/05/2015 at 22:51 UTC

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See, "not a safe platform to express their ideas" is a very vague concept.

I know a hell of a lot of religious people who believe that a place where non-believers can openly disagree with them would constitute such a thing; their faith is being attacked! Persecution!

What will you do with thousands of reports that the mean old atheist is making Baby Cthulhu cry?

Will you have teams standing by with puppies and colouring books?

What will you do when the KKK cry that *their* space isn't safe?

Comment by 99639 at 03/07/2015 at 08:29 UTC

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Srs users sent me personal messages encouraging I complete suicide after I posted in a different subreddit about my struggle with depression and suicidal thoughts. They harassed me for so long I finally deleted my account. That subreddit is literally a list of targets for harassment. Why is it not banned? Why are former admins and their friend the mods of such an awful, hateful community? What will it take to stop the harassment?

Comment by Okichah at 14/05/2015 at 17:27 UTC

1 upvotes, 2 direct replies

Do you not know how to write regex?

Why not filter out the harassing messages instead of creating a secret police to hunt down "Suppresive Persons" like a weird cult.