Comment by maq0r on 24/01/2025 at 18:55 UTC

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View submission: What are the reasons millions of undocumented immigrants were allowed in the US? I don't recall ever hearing the most obvious reasons by politicians.

ALLOWED? Like, here's the part that I guess people don't understand:

The border is NOT a Disneyland attraction. The Border is not something you can close with a sign. The border is THOUSANDS of miles long many of them through desert that cannot be realistically patrolled or closed 24/7.

So is not like they were ALLOWED is that there is no way to realistically prevent them from coming in.

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Comment by burenning at 24/01/2025 at 19:35 UTC

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And something most people don't realize is that the majority didn't just walk across the border. They came here using legitimate visas and then just never went home. Just like Elon and his student visa.

Comment by ObviousCranialHavoc at 24/01/2025 at 19:40 UTC

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And the ones who do come in legally, at first, and just stay. Tons of visitors lie and misrepresent themselves for Visas and at the airport to be let in as tourists.

Some come in as tourists and work illegally during their allotted time and go home. Sometimes turning right back around and coming back hoping to be let in again as a “tourist”

Comment by [deleted] at 24/01/2025 at 20:25 UTC

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Comment by lennym73 at 25/01/2025 at 01:19 UTC

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I enjoyed the picture on X that had officers lined up across the road at one the port of entries stating the border is officially closed. These people actually think that immigrants walk down that road right past border patrol and enter the US. There is over 2000 miles of border along Mexico and I'm not sure how many miles of shoreline for anybody to get in.

Comment by Drivingintodisco at 25/01/2025 at 02:11 UTC

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Andrew Callaghan has an episode of channel 5 where he crosses the border as am American citizen and was detained for a good period. Some get through and some get caught and like you said when someone wants something legality isn’t a factor.

After the us destabilization in a lot of Latin American countries, coupled with country issues and cartels, when you’ve got nothing you’ve got nothing to loose.

Comment by hectorc82 at 25/01/2025 at 03:57 UTC

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Such nonsense. Of course it can be done.

Comment by JollyGoodShowMate at 25/01/2025 at 04:13 UTC

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We are finding out right now thats not true. It could have been prevented

Comment by NynaeveAlMeowra at 25/01/2025 at 06:46 UTC

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I just did a basic approximation to patrol the entire border with Mexico and got 600,000 people. Math (2000miles*×5280ft/mile*3 people/watchpoint)/50 Ft/watchpoint(for perfect coverage).

It's an absurd number of people just to watch a 2000 Mile long couple miles wide strip of land. And that's not including the number of people in support roles. Also that's not how most undocumented immigrants stay in the country anyways

Comment by tittyswan at 25/01/2025 at 07:30 UTC

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And many people who live on the border cross the borders every day for work.

And others fly in on a student or holiday visa and never leave.

There's so many ways it happens that aren't people literally sneaking over the border.

Comment by Blarghnog at 25/01/2025 at 09:46 UTC

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Countries secure borders everywhere in the world, even long ones.

Comment by RefrigeratorSpare952 at 24/01/2025 at 22:31 UTC

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There is a way to stop immigration. Put the employers in jail when they hire illegals. Until you do that, it won’t stop. Devin Nunez was famous for screaming about immigration and yet his family employed a whole bunch. Go after the employers and stop the reason to come. But that will never happen as many employers are republicans.

Comment by LegendTheo at 25/01/2025 at 00:26 UTC

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This is not true. We could monitor and control it enough to stop the vast majority of crossing. It wouldn't even be all that expensive long term.

The problem is there are too many people invested in stopping that from happening for one reason or another.

We could easily prevent 90%+ from coming in if we wanted. And if we did that the number trying would probably drop by 90% in a few years. End result problem is now 1% of what it was.

Comment by indefiniteretrieval at 24/01/2025 at 22:34 UTC

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They were tacitly encouraged to over load the border and bog down the asylum process

NGO's hand out scripts for people to recite . Once here they are looking at *years* to get a hearing.

For the record poverty is not a grounds for asylum

Comment by MAXIMAL_GABRIEL at 24/01/2025 at 19:44 UTC

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The wall of China is 7X longer than the US-Mexico border and was built nearly a million years ago before technology was even invented. Yall ain't even trying.