1065 upvotes, 46 direct replies (showing 25)
We don’t take banning subs lightly. Each sub is reviewed by a human—and in some cases, a team of humans—before it is banned for a content policy violation. In cases where a sub’s sole purpose is in direct violation of our policies (i.e. sharing of involuntary porn), we will ban a sub outright. But generally before banning, we attempt to work with the mods to clarify our expectations and policies regarding what content is welcome.
Communities do evolve over time, sometimes positively and sometimes negatively, so we do need to re-review communities from time to time, which is what's going on in this case. Revenue isn't a factor.
Comment by Mammal_Incandenza at 05/03/2018 at 21:35 UTC*
2121 upvotes, 12 direct replies
What kind of technicalities or grey areas exist here? You make this sound so much more laborious and difficult to understand than it is...it’s just bizarre...
Let me do a quick rundown for you of how 99.9% of humans would deal with this apparently super confusing issue:
Person 1: Look at this sub full of animal torture, human torture, and dead people with sarcastic, mocking headlines. We shouldn’t have this on our website.
Person 2: Yeah this is disgusting. We don’t want it on our website. Get rid of it.
Person 1: OK. Give me 60 seconds..... done.
Why do you act like you and the Reddit staff are incapable of quickly understanding such extreme cut-and-dried cases? It’s NOT difficult and you know it.
Edit: I forgot how long these things can go on for - I got sucked in and started replying to everyone that had a response and have wasted a couple of hours now, whether replies called me “fuckwit” or not. I’m out - learned my lesson about engaging in big front page threads and how it can eat up the night. SEEYA.
Comment by LilkaLyubov at 05/03/2018 at 22:05 UTC*
463 upvotes, 4 direct replies
We don’t take banning subs lightly.
I beg to disagree. There have been a niche private sub that was deleted yesterday without much review for "brigading" when there is definitely no evidence of that at all, just other users who were upset about being kicked out for breaking rules.
Now, *actually* harmful subs, I've submitted multiple reports about, and you guys still haven't done a thing about those. One has been harassing me and my friends for months, and there is actual evidence of that, and that sub is still around. Including users planning to take out other subs in the community as well.
Comment by fishbiscuit13 at 06/03/2018 at 00:57 UTC
56 upvotes, 2 direct replies
So how do you explain the posts from MANY communities detailing (with archives and screenshots) the WEEKLY compilations of DOZENS of flagrant and gleeful rule violations? They say "gallows" more often than "lock her up". They shepherded people to Charleston. They coordinated misinformation after Stoneman Douglas. Every single excuse you've been trotting out for a year and a half now is thoroughly bunk and you know it.
Comment by shaze at 05/03/2018 at 21:26 UTC
621 upvotes, 4 direct replies
How do you keep up with the endless amount of subreddits that get created in clear violation of the rules? Like I already see two more /r/nomorals created now that you've finally banned it....
How long on average do they fly under the radar before you catch them, or do you exclusively rely on them getting reported?
Comment by interfail at 05/03/2018 at 22:05 UTC
73 upvotes, 0 direct replies
Each sub is reviewed by a human—and in some cases, a team of humans—before it is banned for a content policy violation
The problem is that the human apparently has to be Anderson Cooper before you actually do anything.
Comment by FreeSpeechWarrior at 05/03/2018 at 23:57 UTC
66 upvotes, 1 direct replies
But generally before banning, we attempt to work with the mods to clarify our expectations and policies regarding what content is welcome.
So did you work with r/celebfakes before banning a community that existed on this site for years as a result of the bad pr caused by r/deepfake?
If so, how?
Comment by mad87645 at 05/03/2018 at 22:47 UTC
215 upvotes, 3 direct replies
Revenue isn't a factor
Bullshit, if revenue wasn't a factor then why are the subs that do get banned always the little brother sub of a big sub that's allowed to continue doing the *exact same thing.* r/altright gets banned while TD is still allowed, r/incels gets banned wile TRP and MGTOW are still allowed etc. You only ban subs when the negative attention they're getting is outweighing the revenue you get from hosting it.
Comment by Toastrz at 05/03/2018 at 21:21 UTC
727 upvotes, 3 direct replies
Communities do evolve over time, sometimes positively and sometimes negatively
I think it's *pretty* clear at this point that the community in question here isn't changing.
Comment by thekindsith at 21/03/2018 at 20:05 UTC
22 upvotes, 1 direct replies
Would you say a sub like /r/gundeals is as much of a black eye on reddit as a revenge porn sub, and a larger mark than /r/hookers or /r/watchpeopledie?
Because your actions have said so.
Comment by Verrence at 21/03/2018 at 21:33 UTC
15 upvotes, 0 direct replies
Bullshit. You’re banning subs like it’s going out of style, regardless of whether they violate any of your rules. Other subs that violate both laws and reddit rules are allowed to persist according the reddit admin whims. Go fuck yourself.
Comment by Kengy at 05/03/2018 at 21:33 UTC
563 upvotes, 4 direct replies
Jesus christ dude. It looks really bad for your company when it feels like the only time subs get banned is when people put up a shit fit in admin threads.
Comment by MisfitPotatoReborn at 05/03/2018 at 21:20 UTC
1697 upvotes, 12 direct replies
Wow, looks like /r/nomorals just got banned.
You guys really *do* ban things only because of negative attention, don't you?
Comment by socsa at 05/03/2018 at 21:42 UTC
43 upvotes, 1 direct replies
But like, existing for the sole purpose of violently radicalising young men to the point that it represents a clear and present danger to US democratic institutions... That's totally cool with you guys?
Comment by [deleted] at 05/03/2018 at 21:25 UTC
523 upvotes, 2 direct replies
Each sub is reviewed by a human—and in some cases, a team of humans—before it is banned for a content policy violation
Oh you must not be aware T_D exists. You guys should probably start looking into it.
Comment by zwiding at 21/03/2018 at 21:06 UTC
11 upvotes, 0 direct replies
And now you go and update your terms of service listing that you are banning everything that is already illegal... and then firearms, which are completely legal. Meanwhile people are still selling drugs just fine... gg reddit : (
Comment by ShitJustGotRealAgain at 05/03/2018 at 21:25 UTC
19 upvotes, 1 direct replies
Why is it so hard to tell what subs are a direct violation of reddits rules and what aren't? In the case mentioned above I see little redeeming content that would make me doubt that this sub obviously violates site wide rules.
How hard can it be to tell the mods "remove content like this or else..."?
Why does it take so long when you are already aware of it?
Comment by hurrrrrmione at 06/03/2018 at 03:17 UTC
4 upvotes, 0 direct replies
Hey u/spez, why isn’t there a set option to report posts and comments for “content that encourages, glorifies, incites, or calls for violence or physical harm against an individual or a group of people” even though it’s been against Reddit rules for months? Plenty of subs don’t leave an ‘other’ option where I can write in that I’m reporting for advocating violence, so I end up having to use ‘It’s rude, vulgar or offensive’ which is insufficient.
Comment by whysorekt at 05/03/2018 at 21:57 UTC
9 upvotes, 0 direct replies
So... humans review this footage and are happy to let it through provided it generates traffic and revenue from reddit ads?
But then don't worry. After 2 or 3 years of sharing gore and horror, you 'think' about maybe banning, if you feel that they've..... changed? Holy yikes...
Comment by [deleted] at 05/03/2018 at 21:20 UTC*
236 upvotes, 2 direct replies
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Comment by cobigguy at 21/03/2018 at 23:01 UTC
8 upvotes, 0 direct replies
Unless of course you want to crack down on gun related stuff that isn't even close to included in bullshit legislation.
Comment by [deleted] at 05/03/2018 at 22:35 UTC
17 upvotes, 1 direct replies
Each sub is reviewed by a human—and in some cases, a team of humans
So how have these teams of humans missed the brigading-as-a-rule-of-conduct subreddits like /r/The_Donald and /r/ShitRedditSays? How can both of those subreddits continually fling shit into other subreddits on nonrelated issues and harass people, and continue to get away with it? What does the staff team do to track and punish brigading, and are the staff aware of just how much has been going on?
Comment by NerosNeptune at 05/03/2018 at 21:35 UTC
4 upvotes, 0 direct replies
Shouldn’t it just take a cursory look at that sub to see that it has no place here? I don’t understand at all how there needs to be a lengthy committee set up to determine if snuf films should be removed or not.
Comment by Mister_Johnson_ at 21/03/2018 at 22:05 UTC*
6 upvotes, 0 direct replies
We don’t take banning subs lightly
NSFW: How you deal with gun subs
Comment by Average2520 at 05/03/2018 at 23:42 UTC
4 upvotes, 0 direct replies
Revenue isn't a factor.
lol do you honestly think anyone believes this? Do *you* believe it? Shit like this is exactly why reddit will die before it becomes profitable.
Comment by [deleted] at 05/03/2018 at 21:29 UTC
55 upvotes, 3 direct replies
You banned coontown a few years back. T_D is just as bad.