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Ok, I'll try to state this as plainly as possible, since you don't seem to be following what I'm saying here:
If you post a picture on a public forum, it is public. The End. Unless the mods (or anyone from the sub, in fact) were to say "hey, I found this picture of a fat girl. Let's go to where I found the picture and make fun of them as a group!" Then it's not brigading and it's not targeting. No one was going to some poor fat girls facebook page and making fun of her in front of her family (as much as you can do that sort of thing online); no one was going to some fat guys job website and making up some bullshit about him because he was a tub of shit in an attempt to get him fired. It's taking a publicly posted picture, moving it to a different area of the internet and making fun of that person there. The person wasn't targeted. There were no notes or comments on the sidebar letting everyone know where the fatties could be found. There were no calls for anyone to go after anyone. It was a separate area where publicly posted picures of fat people could be made fun of.
That's it. There wasn't a single rule broken. You may not like or agree with it, but that is a fact. There's no "if someone says pretty please and gives you a sob story, then you need to take down a post and apologize for being a meenie-head" rule; so no, there were no rules broken in any of your examples.
Were the mods assholes? Absolutely. Look at the name of the Sub. It wasn't "Lets kind of make fat people feel bad until they notice or find out and then apologize and spare their fee-fees".
The 'problem' is that it got too big for the PC police to contain, and it ended up on the front page more than once; which is bad PR. I've said it once, so I'm just going to say it again:
Again, whether you agree with us or not; we didn't break any site rules; and on the chance that some of the users did (because honestly, out of 150k+ people, someone had to be the asshole) it's not a valid reason to nuke the sub. Ban the offenders? Sure (the mods did so daily), but destroying the sub for people that followed the rules was not only unfair (as there are many other very large subs that break the rules and brag about it while nothing happens to them) but also took away the place where it was contained.
It's like going into a gym, lighting up a cigarette, screaming 'bigotry!' when they kick you out, and getting others to join you in burning the building down because you don't like that they judged you for your bad life choices.
Comment by LukaCola at 07/07/2015 at 02:15 UTC
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Then it's not brigading and it's not targeting.
So posting their picture on the sidebar (which makes it very easy to find out who they are) for the entire subreddit to see and mock isn't targeting people?
The following is an excerpt from http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/harassment
harassment n:
the act of systematic and/or continued unwanted and annoying actions of one party or a group, including threats and demands. The purposes may vary, including racial prejudice, personal malice, an attempt to force someone to quit a job or grant sexual favors, apply illegal pressure to collect a bill, or merely gain sadistic pleasure from making someone fearful or anxious.
What FPH did bordered on litigable.
It's absolutely a valid reason. A hate group does not need to be given a platform to hate from. And reddit would not give you that platform.
It was not a "containment" it was allowing the ideas to propagate and it allowed people to gang up on individual members, sponsored by the moderators.
Information being public does not give you free game to harass someone over it. Even if you don't go directly to them to harass them, it is still harassment.
Sorry I'm not taking part of your pity party. You were part of a literal hate group. People don't support that. And your actions do have consequences. Not that you give a shit about anyone besides yourself.