Comment by krispykrackers on 10/06/2015 at 20:00 UTC

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View submission: Removing harassing subreddits

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When we are using the word "harass", we're not talking about "being annoying" or vote manipulation or anything. We're talking about men and women whose lives are being affected and worry for their safety every day, because people from a certain community on reddit have decided to actually threaten them, online and off, every day. When you've had to talk to as many victims of it as we have, you'd understand that a brigade from one subreddit to another is miles away from the harassment we don't want being generated on our site.

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Comment by [deleted] at 10/06/2015 at 21:39 UTC

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Comment by [deleted] at 10/06/2015 at 21:27 UTC*

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Comment by KRosen333 at 10/06/2015 at 21:48 UTC

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Hey krispykrackers, I have yet to receive a reply from the admins about /r/AgainstMensRights breaking the rule of putting contact information on their sub.

http://www.reddit.com/r/againstmensrights/comments/37r1xm/tell_toronto_pride_to_ban_cafe/

https://archive.is/DhGQw

And I've mentioned in a message to the admins about the harassing nature of a few subs, including /r/AgainstMensRights - can I please get a reply on these?

Thanks :)

Comment by hiero_ at 10/06/2015 at 22:05 UTC

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I hate that everyone is downvoting you but you just said yourself SRS brigades, so why have they not been banned for that? You guys constantly defending them just... Look reddit has a garbage user base but SRS' tactics and he way they try to handle situations only further divides the community instead of fixing problems such as sexism. If SRS were banned and REASONABLE people and feminists replaced them to fill their void and help people understand then people would actually be willing to try and listen. But SRS promotes their ideologies and feminist ideology in a terrible terrible way and it is pushing everyone on reddit away from caring about the truth at their core that they wrap with their own brigading and harassment.

Please reconsider banning SRS for breaking other reddit rules repeatedly for years and consider replacing them with a much more palatable and open alternative to combating sexism and racism.

Comment by [deleted] at 10/06/2015 at 22:11 UTC

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We're talking about men and women whose lives are being affected and worry for their safety every day, because people from a certain community on reddit have decided to actually threaten them, online and off, every day.

So why hasn't /r/GamerGhazi not been banned? They had users stalk others on reddit, they have also had users calling police on others so swat will come in.

Comment by Jasperkr672 at 10/06/2015 at 23:14 UTC

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Which is why out of about 10,000 GamerGate related Twitter accounts, only 0.66% were found to be harassing people, according to a report from Women, Action and the Media. And it's not even entirely clear what counted as harassment, so the actual number is probably even lower. Not to mention how many of those accounts are third-party trolls or astroturfers.

https://imgur.com/nDITVQd

Never mind the fact that a feminist opposed to GamerGate told me to go kill myself just a few weeks ago:

https://imgur.com/KrqPIP0

But no, you only care about the "victims" in your own circle of friends.

In other words: you're full of shit.

Comment by TheColorTriangle at 10/06/2015 at 21:26 UTC

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So can /r/GasTheKikes be banned too please, seeing as their whole purpose is to threaten and attack Jews? Or are Jews an okay group to send death threats to - all while fat people cannot be made fun of? I would like some clarification please.

Comment by [deleted] at 10/06/2015 at 20:09 UTC

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Comment by frankenmine at 10/06/2015 at 21:10 UTC

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You mean like when Gawker did an expose on /u/ViolentAcrez and /r/ShitRedditSays and affiliated subs posted that article and related information for years to come?

Kind of like that?

Just checking.

Comment by TotesMessenger at 10/06/2015 at 22:24 UTC*

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I'm a bot, *bleep*, *bloop*. Someone has linked to this thread from another place on reddit:

[/r/negativewithgold] When we are using the word "harass", we're not talking about "being annoying" or vote manipulation or anything. [A] [-581]

[/r/seattleparody] Whoa -3303 and -1485 points? Those are some impressive numbers my friends. That krispycrackhead seems especially deserving of the Careless Award (tm) on an admin scale.

[/r/shittheadminssay] When we are using the word harass, we're not talking about being annoying or vote manipulation or anything. We're talking about men and women whose lives are being affected and worry for their safety every day, because people from a certain community on reddit have decided to actually threaten them

1: /r/TotesMessenger/wiki/

2: /message/compose/?to=/r/TotesMessenger

Comment by [deleted] at 10/06/2015 at 21:15 UTC

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Comment by RTE2FM at 10/06/2015 at 21:24 UTC

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/r/shitredditsays still boasts today about getting someone fired from their job, banning male rape victims and not using np.reddit.com

Comment by [deleted] at 10/06/2015 at 21:44 UTC*

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Comment by 12_Years_A_Toucan at 10/06/2015 at 21:29 UTC

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So with reddit wanting to be more transparent surely you'd be willing to show evidence of such harassment no?

Comment by GhostOfWhatsIAName at 10/06/2015 at 21:27 UTC

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Is this based on factual evidence or baseless claims by anonymous users? Are you going by a shoot first ask questions last policy or actually innocent until proven guilty? What happens if I mention the words Anita Sarkeesian and GamerGate, without any actual stance towards any of them? Does that trigger anything?

Also, here, have an upvote.

Comment by LordBeverage at 10/06/2015 at 21:27 UTC

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Ah, I see you've managed to figure out a way to make sure an entire subreddit is responsible for the behaviors of an individual, and that the best recourse is the death sentence.

Very clever! How did you manage it?

Comment by Treysef at 10/06/2015 at 21:38 UTC

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You have no problem banning subreddits as a solution right now. Why not ban SRS **and** work on other solutions? One obviously doesn't rely on the other since you've banned 5 subreddits just today.

Comment by mginatl at 10/06/2015 at 21:44 UTC

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http://np.reddit.com/r/SRSsucks/comments/1yhswb/a_brief_compilation_of_srs_doxxing_brigading_and/

Comment by OccamsChaimsaw at 11/06/2015 at 03:22 UTC

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When are you going to hold communities like SRS accountable for threatening people, online and off, every day?

Comment by [deleted] at 10/06/2015 at 21:12 UTC*

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Comment by FSMhelpusall at 10/06/2015 at 22:31 UTC

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We're talking about men and women whose lives are being affected and worry for their safety every day

It is strange that even when people get harassed, lose their job, etc nothing happens, and yet just because some people subjectively feel unsafe, sometimes by mere criticism, others must be banned.

Are you ready to ban people on reddit organizing harassment of Memories Pizza, for instance? Or are they the wrong sort of people, politically, to deserve feeling safe?

Comment by Neebat at 11/06/2015 at 17:55 UTC

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You've got a fucked up double standard, Krispykrackers. You cannot continue to give DoubleX and SRS a pass while shutting down other subreddits for the same behavior. SRS has been proudly doxxing and harassing people in real life for years, and it's well-documented.

Comment by yes_thats_right at 10/06/2015 at 21:26 UTC

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Hi,

Were the people involved in harassment also subscribed to /r/AskReddit? will /r/AskReddit be banned as a result? If not, why not?

Thanks

Comment by jonahandthewhales at 10/06/2015 at 21:18 UTC

23 upvotes, 1 direct replies

I'm not sure I follow here, are you able to substantiate that FPH has actually had an organized push to threaten these users?

Comment by imonthelisttoo at 10/06/2015 at 21:24 UTC

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What did FPH do to breach that rule that SRS did not? Can you give us concrete examples?